The Lords Work

[Going Merry]

Simple question.

The Lords work covers who?

I am curious what people believe.
Cause from interacting with people it seems I am different in this belief.

 

[Jupiter Drops]

Everyone, no matter how 'good' they were, how powerful their influence was in the world, or how intelligent and sophisticated they were.

It's all in God's hands.

 

[Going Merry]

Yes Jupiter

1 John 2:2
And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

John 1:29
The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

 

[MrMoe]

The world

No such thing as a good person. Jesus made that clear.
You need to get saved before you can be called a saint.

 

[MrMoe]

your beliefs are pretty much the same as any christians regarding this

 

[Nanopants]

The Spirit of the LORD [is] upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; -Luke 4:18

...the ruler of this world is judged. -John 16:11

Self-explanatory.

 

[Going Merry]

^ can u explain pls

 

[Nanopants]

If I do you'll just disagree with me.

 

[Going Merry]

true...

 

[Nanopants]

Then Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary His mother, "Behold, this [Child] is destined for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign which will be spoken against (yes, a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed. -Luke 2:34,35

Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. -Mat 10:34

For the word of God [is] living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. -Heb 4:12

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -John 1:1

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. -John 1:14

Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. -Rev 19:15

And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. -Mat 12:47,48

But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. -Mat 12:36

Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? [What] if God, wanting to show [His] wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory... -Rom 9:21

 

[Spunkn]

Christ's work on the cross made it -possible- for everyone to be saved. But not everyone will be saved. They still have to choose to believe in Christ and accept salvation through faith.

 

[Nom De Guerre]

While I agree with you, Nano, that Yeshua did come to save the lost sheep of Israel he also openly spoke about the "dogs" and our Gospel includes somebody explaining that even dogs eat crumbs from the master's table; in fact, in Romans Chapter 11 the chapter explicitly deals with the Olive tree (Israel) and the purpose of the Gentiles for the choosen people, Paul then goes on to explain that "every knee will bow and every tongue will confess..." which goes on to include even the most demonic by logic. Earlier in the book of Romans the text even suggests that "those who are without the law are a law unto themselves" in the Second Chapter I believe.

 

[Going Merry]

Christ's work on the cross made it -possible- for everyone to be saved. But not everyone will be saved. They still have to choose to believe in Christ and accept salvation through faith.

How has it made it possible for everyone to be saved?

What did he do?

 

[Spunkn]

How has it made it possible for everyone to be saved?

What did he do?

Because all sin was taken upon Christ, and the penalty for sin was paid for everyone, if they chose to accept Christ and salvation. The wrath of God was turned upon the sin that Jesus took upon Himself, and it was fulfilled through Him.

 

[Nanopants]

But Jesus, turning to them, said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. For indeed the days are coming in which they will say, 'Blessed [are] the barren, wombs that never bore, and breasts which never nursed!' Then they will begin 'to say to the mountains, "Fall on us!" and to the hills, "Cover us!" -Luke 22:28-30

The siege of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.

In offering Himself up to be crucified, being innocent, and because God is just, He destroyed Jerusalem.

Has that pattern ended?

"And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!" -Mat 6:11

The saints have been persecuted and executed in a similar way throughout the world during the two millennia following that event, so, I'd say no.

 

[Blackguard_]

Jesus work, I take it by that you mean the atonement, applies to everyone no matter what John Calvin thought.

 

[Nanopants]

Expanding on what I said previously, here are some obvious facts:

-Jesus' opponents were chief priests and teachers of the law.
-His opponents used the law to crucify Him (they accused Him of blasphemy).
-The law is part of the inspired Word of God.
-The Word of God raised up both the vessels of honor and the vessels of dishonor for that very event.

The event in question (the crucifixion) was a conflict between the light of the world (Christ) and the sons of darkness. That event became a testimony, and the inspired Word of God, including that testimony and packaged as what we know to be the Bible, now raises up more of the sons of light and the sons of darkness, and the conflict continues throughout the world. If the same principles which led to the destruction of Jerusalem hold true in these conflicts as well, what you have is a catalyst for an unstoppable reaction that cleanses the earth through those conflicts. In summary, what you could say is that Jesus is the savior of the world, literally.

The work of the Lord as I see it, applies to just about everyone, but the work itself is diverse, including salvation and destruction and the product is the redemption of the Lord's creation.

 

[Going Merry]

δεν

 

[Nanopants]

When He said "it is finished" did you think He meant to say "protestants are right, work's done folks, go home and wait for me to pamper you like spoiled poodles?"

 

[Going Merry]

When he said 'it is finished' all the sins of the world had disapeared