The Light of the Body

[PsychoSarah]

These people did write in characters. In which the ancient Indians used symbols and the Egyptians hieroglyphics.

Uh, no, the Navajo had no written language. Neither did the Incas. In fact, literacy for most of human history was less common than illiteracy

 

[rockytopva]

The Navajo did honor God the Father with the name, "Great Spirit."

 

[PsychoSarah]

The Navajo did honor God the Father with the name, "Great Spirit."

Again, not the point, your whole deal was that written language was necessary to show humans existed, something you keep dodging is that many societies provably had no written language.

 

[rockytopva]

Again, not the point, your whole deal was that written language was necessary to show humans existed, something you keep dodging is that many societies provably had no written language.

One point... And don't you ever forget it... The spirituality is in the heart!
Groove Is In The Heart Music Video - YouTube

 

[rockytopva]

Who on earth fed you that tripe?

There is a higher form of spiritual light and energies that are in God.

Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

 

[Queller]

'Natural selection' denies cause and effect.

You just gave an explanation natural selection that practically defines cause and effect.

I guessing that low survival rates for mice whose coloration contrasts with their environment (easily seen and eaten) is more responsible than the background color of that environment. If this is 'natural selection' at work I agree. The predators 'select' the easy prey leaving the more difficult prey to pass on their coloration.

Cause: different colors of fur blend better or worse into the background.

Effect: Predators take the prey that is easy to see and leave the others to pass on their genes.

It's a mysterious process that has no reason to function. Purposeful creation on the other hand is the logical explanation for change or improvement of an organism over time. The question is a simple one; either the organism changed or improved itself at the most fundamental level, of it's own volition, or an external force did it.

False dichotomy. There is a least one more choice: random mutations, genetic drift, gene flow, and other mechanisms affect the individual and natural selection determines whether those changes offer a benefit or not.

It's not illogical to credit an external force when one can perceive intelligent planning in the effort.

This makes no sense. If there is intelligent planning involved, why are the mutations in any given population essentially random? Why don't all individuals have the same mutations?

 

[PsychoSarah]

One point... And don't you ever forget it... The spirituality is in the heart!
Groove Is In The Heart Music Video - YouTube

Another dodge from your explicit claim that written language was required to prove the existence of people.

 

[Queller]

2060 AD has not got here... But it will my precious.... It will!!!

So will 2061, 2062, 2063, etc.

 

[Queller]

Where is the written literature Someone from a million years ago had to write something for all this nonsense to be true!

What makes you think so?

 

[Queller]

Because we are human! It is in our intelligent nature to write about things!

Does drawing pictures count? Because we have cave art from 30,000 years ago.

 

[rockytopva]

Does drawing pictures count? Because we have cave art from 30,000 years ago.

Can't be sure of the timing. Knock about 27,000 years off your clock and I will believe it.

 

[Queller]

Can't be sure of the timing. Knock about 27,000 years off your clock and I will believe it.

But that would be a lie. Why would you want to believe a lie just to support a woodenly literal interpretation of Genesis?

 

[rockytopva]

But that would be a lie. Why would you want to believe a lie just to support a woodenly literal interpretation of Genesis?

One can't put dating on hen scratching on a wall!

 

[Mainframes]

One can't put dating on hen scratching on a wall!

A lot of the pigments used are organic in nature and are perfectly able to be dated.

 

[Queller]

One can't put dating on hen scratching on a wall!

Of course you can date the pigments used to produce the pictures. Where did you get the idea you couldn't?

 

[rockytopva]

Of course you can date the pigments used to produce the pictures. Where did you get the idea you couldn't?

I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.... $30,000 an acre.

 

[Mainframes]

I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.... $30,000 an acre.

I live in the UK and even I know that you might struggle to find a buyer at that price.......

What's your point?

 

[Queller]

I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.... $30,000 an acre.

Unable to answer the question I see.

 

[lasthero]

I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.... $30,000 an acre.

Let me see if I understand your counter argument .

You don't believe we can date such things, therefore we can't .

Brilliant.

 

[Queller]

Let me see if I understand your counter argument .

You don't believe we can date such things, therefore we can't .

Brilliant.

Pretty impressive logic, wouldn't you say?