The Lie: Serpent seed Doctrine

[Rescued One]

Serpent seed, dual seed or two-seedline is a controversial religious belief which explains the biblical account of the fall of man by saying that the serpent in the Garden of Eden mated with Eve, and that the offspring of their union was Cain. This appears in early Gnostic writings such as the Gospel of Philip (c. 350). This teaching was explicitly rejected as heresy by Irenaeus[1] (c. 180), one of the early church fathers, and later by mainstream Christian theologians. According to The Celtic Church In Britain, by Leslie Hardinge, the early Celtic church taught the belief in the seduction of Eve by the serpent.

Notable proponents of the serpent-seed doctrine have included Daniel Parker (1781–1844),[2] William M. Branham (1909–1965),[3]:98 and Arnold Murray (1929–2014).
This belief is also held by some adherents of the white supremacist theology known as Christian Identity, who claim that the Jews are descended from the serpent.[4][5] It is considered heresy by the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and by most Protestants.[6] The Unification Church, for example, teaches that Eve committed adultery with the devil, but does not teach the serpent-seed doctrine. A section of the Mormon Fundamentalist group Church of the Firstborn (LeBaron order) led by author and publisher Fred Collier out of Hanna, Utah adhere to a form of "two Seedline" doctrine.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed

Psalm 119
104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Proverbs 30
5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

 

[Chinchilla]

Serpent seed, dual seed or two-seedline is a controversial religious belief which explains the biblical account of the fall of man by saying that the serpent in the Garden of Eden mated with Eve, and that the offspring of their union was Cain. This appears in early Gnostic writings such as the Gospel of Philip (c. 350). This teaching was explicitly rejected as heresy by Irenaeus[1] (c. 180), one of the early church fathers, and later by mainstream Christian theologians. According to The Celtic Church In Britain, by Leslie Hardinge, the early Celtic church taught the belief in the seduction of Eve by the serpent.

Notable proponents of the serpent-seed doctrine have included Daniel Parker (1781–1844),[2] William M. Branham (1909–1965),[3]:98 and Arnold Murray (1929–2014).
This belief is also held by some adherents of the white supremacist theology known as Christian Identity, who claim that the Jews are descended from the serpent.[4][5] It is considered heresy by the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and by most Protestants.[6] The Unification Church, for example, teaches that Eve committed adultery with the devil, but does not teach the serpent-seed doctrine. A section of the Mormon Fundamentalist group Church of the Firstborn (LeBaron order) led by author and publisher Fred Collier out of Hanna, Utah adhere to a form of "two Seedline" doctrine.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed

Psalm 119
104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Proverbs 30
5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Never heared it ....
Cain's children have God in thier names so would be strange for children of Satan to have such .


Imo the struggle of nations come from there and not from snake impregnating Eve...

Genesis 25:23
“And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.”

 

[SkyWriting]

Serpent seed, dual seed or two-seedline is a controversial religious belief which explains the biblical account of the fall of man by saying that the serpent in the Garden of Eden mated with Eve, and that the offspring of their union was Cain. This appears in early Gnostic writings such as the Gospel of Philip (c. 350). This teaching was explicitly rejected as heresy by Irenaeus[1] (c. 180), one of the early church fathers, and later by mainstream Christian theologians. According to The Celtic Church In Britain, by Leslie Hardinge, the early Celtic church taught the belief in the seduction of Eve by the serpent.

Notable proponents of the serpent-seed doctrine have included Daniel Parker (1781–1844),[2] William M. Branham (1909–1965),[3]:98 and Arnold Murray (1929–2014).
This belief is also held by some adherents of the white supremacist theology known as Christian Identity, who claim that the Jews are descended from the serpent.[4][5] It is considered heresy by the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and by most Protestants.[6] The Unification Church, for example, teaches that Eve committed adultery with the devil, but does not teach the serpent-seed doctrine. A section of the Mormon Fundamentalist group Church of the Firstborn (LeBaron order) led by author and publisher Fred Collier out of Hanna, Utah adhere to a form of "two Seedline" doctrine.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed

Psalm 119
104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Proverbs 30
5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

I analysis of the sex life of others to the same degree
I'd like them to scrutinize mine.

 

[bcbsr]

Serpent seed, dual seed or two-seedline is a controversial religious belief which explains the biblical account of the fall of man by saying that the serpent in the Garden of Eden mated with Eve, and that the offspring of their union was Cain. This appears in early Gnostic writings such as the Gospel of Philip (c. 350). This teaching was explicitly rejected as heresy by Irenaeus[1] (c. 180), one of the early church fathers, and later by mainstream Christian theologians. According to The Celtic Church In Britain, by Leslie Hardinge, the early Celtic church taught the belief in the seduction of Eve by the serpent.

Notable proponents of the serpent-seed doctrine have included Daniel Parker (1781–1844),[2] William M. Branham (1909–1965),[3]:98 and Arnold Murray (1929–2014).
This belief is also held by some adherents of the white supremacist theology known as Christian Identity, who claim that the Jews are descended from the serpent.[4][5] It is considered heresy by the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and by most Protestants.[6] The Unification Church, for example, teaches that Eve committed adultery with the devil, but does not teach the serpent-seed doctrine. A section of the Mormon Fundamentalist group Church of the Firstborn (LeBaron order) led by author and publisher Fred Collier out of Hanna, Utah adhere to a form of "two Seedline" doctrine.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed

Psalm 119
104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Proverbs 30
5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Ge 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from the LORD."

That settles that question!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Serpent seed, dual seed or two-seedline is a controversial religious belief which explains the biblical account of the fall of man by saying that the serpent in the Garden of Eden mated with Eve, and that the offspring of their union was Cain. This appears in early Gnostic writings such as the Gospel of Philip (c. 350). This teaching was explicitly rejected as heresy by Irenaeus[1] (c. 180), one of the early church fathers, and later by mainstream Christian theologians. According to The Celtic Church In Britain, by Leslie Hardinge, the early Celtic church taught the belief in the seduction of Eve by the serpent.

Notable proponents of the serpent-seed doctrine have included Daniel Parker (1781–1844),[2] William M. Branham (1909–1965),[3]:98 and Arnold Murray (1929–2014).
This belief is also held by some adherents of the white supremacist theology known as Christian Identity, who claim that the Jews are descended from the serpent.[4][5] It is considered heresy by the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and by most Protestants.[6] The Unification Church, for example, teaches that Eve committed adultery with the devil, but does not teach the serpent-seed doctrine. A section of the Mormon Fundamentalist group Church of the Firstborn (LeBaron order) led by author and publisher Fred Collier out of Hanna, Utah adhere to a form of "two Seedline" doctrine.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed

Psalm 119
104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Proverbs 30
5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

That's some scary stuff right there. Not sure how anyone can believe that kind of non-sense. Reminds me of those who sit around wearing tin foil hats trying to contact aliens or those who believe in holy underwear.

 

[2tim_215]

Really dangerous doctrine and totally false.

 

[Strathos]

How would it even be anatomically possible for a woman to mate with a snake?

 

[Rescued One]

A lot of people watched Arnold Murray on TV and Small Fish posted this: Oneness Pentecostalism is not Biblical. Click on that because that reminded me of this doctrine.

 

[2tim_215]

A lot of people watched Arnold Murray on TV and Small Fish posted this: Oneness Pentecostalism is not Biblical. Click on that because that reminded me of this doctrine.

There's actually some things to like about Murray and some things to dislike, this being one of them. He also hates the idea of a rapture.

 

[Rescued One]

There's actually some things to like about Murray and some things to dislike, this being one of them. He also hates the idea of a rapture.

I don't care what he hated when he was alive. I don't listen to false teachers. I had enough of that.

 

[creslaw]

I have no problem with serpent seed doctrine - it makes more sense than eating an apple or apricot or something causing the fall of humankind. The two trees mentioned in Genesis 2:9 are obviously metaphorical. Eating is also used metaphorically in Scripture.

The serpent was a human like creature before being cursed to become a snake (Genesis 3:1, Genesis 3:14). Many people who reject serpent seed doctrine seem to have no trouble believing that angels mated with humans in Genesis 6:2. (I do not believe that.)

The result of the sin caused Adam & Eve to realize they were naked and they covered their genitals (Genesis 3:6-7). Why?

This understanding makes sense of the act of circumcision as a sign of obedience to God, and why God's punishment of the woman was pain in childbirth. It explains why Satan used the body of the serpent to tempt Eve, and also Cain's evil nature.

When reading Genesis 4:1-2 it is clear that Eve gave birth to two sons - Cain was the son of the serpent & Abel was the son of Adam as a result of superfecundation. Both children came "from the Lord" because God instituted the laws of conception and God is the origin of all life.

If one believes that the seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15 is prophesying of a literal man (Jesus Christ) then the serpent's seed was also a literal man (Cain).

 

[creslaw]

The understanding I have outlined above does not imply any racial superiority for we are all contaminated by sin and all people have access to salvation through Jesus Christ

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

The result of the sin caused Adam & Eve to realize they were naked and they covered their genitals (Genesis 3:6-7). Why?

Because of shame - they previously were unaware they were naked.

If you believe Cain was physically from the devil, you have to explain the passage quoted from the bible, which contradicts your theory. As bcbsr posted:

Ge 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from the LORD."

That settles that question!

This understanding makes sense of the act of circumcision as a sign of obedience to God, and why God's punishment of the woman was pain in childbirth. It explains why Satan used the body of the serpent to tempt Eve, and also Cain's evil nature.

Circumcision can also be explained in terms of God blessing Abraham and his descendents, in the organ that would be necessary for them to be fruitful and multiply. In the same way, one of the woman's main roles was reproduction (as the man's was work). When God punished them both, He made their work harder - the man's in toil of the ground, the woman's in painful childbirth.

When reading Genesis 4:1-2 it is clear that Eve gave birth to two sons - Cain was the son of the serpent & Abel was the son of Adam as a result of superfecundation. Both children came "from the Lord" because God instituted the laws of conception and God is the origin of all life.

No support of this from the biblical text.

If one believes that the seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15 is prophesying of a literal man (Jesus Christ) then the serpent's seed was also a literal man (Cain).

The literal man does not have to be Cain. As Jesus Christ came to Earth later, it could also be any literal serpent seed comes to Earth later.

 

[creslaw]

Because of shame - they previously were unaware they were naked.

If you believe Cain was physically from the devil, you have to explain the passage quoted from the bible, which contradicts your theory. As bcbsr posted:



Circumcision can also be explained in terms of God blessing Abraham and his descendents, in the organ that would be necessary for them to be fruitful and multiply. In the same way, one of the woman's main roles was reproduction (as the man's was work). When God punished them both, He made their work harder - the man's in toil of the ground, the woman's in painful childbirth.

No support of this from the biblical text.

The literal man does not have to be Cain. As Jesus Christ came to Earth later, it could also be any literal serpent seed comes to Earth later.

First you have to decide whether you believe in two literal trees with literal fruit. That is difficult to maintain given the descriptions and context: "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" and "the tree of life" had fruit that could make you wise or make you live forever (Genesis 3:22). A literal fruit could make them live forever? That is not consistent with the rest of Scripture.

And then you have the Revelation context: "the tree of life" is mentioned three times in Genesis and three times in Revelation. Would you argue the tree of life in Revelation is a literal tree?

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

First you have to decide whether you believe in two literal trees with literal fruit. That is difficult to maintain given the descriptions and context: "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" and "the tree of life" had fruit that could make you wise or make you live forever (Genesis 3:22). A literal fruit could make them live forever? That is not consistent with the rest of Scripture.

Why?

And then you have the Revelation context: "the tree of life" is mentioned three times in Genesis and three times in Revelation. Would you argue the tree of life in Revelation is a literal tree?

Yes.

 

[creslaw]

Why?

Yes.

I believe any understanding of Scripture should be traced throughout the Bible. The notion that eating a literal fruit could make a person live for ever is not compatible with Scripture. The example of Abraham shows that even in the OT a person gained access to righteousness & eternal life only through faith (Romans 4:3, Romans 4:11, Romans 4:16).

Faith has always been the only way a person could be righteous in God's sight:
By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, (Hebrews 1:4, NIV)

I hope you distinguish between the literal and spiritual eating in John 6:26 and John 6:51 ... though I am told our Catholic friends do not.

 

[2tim_215]

If Eve had sex with Satan ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil) does it mean that Adam had sex with the devil too, since the Bible tells us that Adam also ate of the same tree?

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I have no problem with serpent seed doctrine - it makes more sense than eating an apple or apricot or something causing the fall of humankind. The two trees mentioned in Genesis 2:9 are obviously metaphorical. Eating is also used metaphorically in Scripture.

The serpent was a human like creature before being cursed to become a snake (Genesis 3:1, Genesis 3:14). Many people who reject serpent seed doctrine seem to have no trouble believing that angels mated with humans in Genesis 6:2. (I do not believe that.)

The result of the sin caused Adam & Eve to realize they were naked and they covered their genitals (Genesis 3:6-7). Why?

This understanding makes sense of the act of circumcision as a sign of obedience to God, and why God's punishment of the woman was pain in childbirth. It explains why Satan used the body of the serpent to tempt Eve, and also Cain's evil nature.

When reading Genesis 4:1-2 it is clear that Eve gave birth to two sons - Cain was the son of the serpent & Abel was the son of Adam as a result of superfecundation. Both children came "from the Lord" because God instituted the laws of conception and God is the origin of all life.

If one believes that the seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15 is prophesying of a literal man (Jesus Christ) then the serpent's seed was also a literal man (Cain).

as we talk about myths, lets add this one,

"
When the first man, Adam, saw that he was alone, God made for him a woman like himself, from the earth.God called her name Lilith, and brought her to Adam. They immediately began to quarrel. Adam said: “You lie beneath me.” And Lilith said: “You lie beneath me! We are both equal, for both of us are from the earth.” And they would not listen to one another.

As soon as Lilith saw this, she uttered the Divine name and flew up into the air and fled. Adam began to pray before his Creator, saying: “Master of the universe, the woman that you gave me has fled.” God sent three angels and said to them: “Go bring back Lilith. If she wants to come, she shall come, and if she does not want to come, do not bring her against her will.

The three angels went and found her in the sea at the place where the Egyptians were destined to drown. There they grabbed her and said to her: “If you will go with us,well and good, but if not, we will drown you in the sea.”

Lilith said to them:”My friends, I know God only created me to weaken infants when they are eight days old. From the day a child is born until the eighth day, I have dominion over the child, and from the eighth day onward I have no dominion over him if he is a boy, but if a girl, I rule over her twelve days.”

They said: “We won’t let you go until you accept upon yourself that each day one hundred of your children will die.” And she accepted it. That is why one hundred demons die every day. They would not leave her alone until she swore to them:”In any place that I see you or your names in an amulet, I will have no dominion over that child.” They left her. And she is Lilith, who weakens the children of men….

Alphabet of Ben Sira 23a-b"Lilith, Lady Flying in Darkness | My Jewish Learning

 

[Solomon Smith]

The scripture clearly states that Cain was the son of Adam.

Genesis 4:1
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

 

[creslaw]

If Eve had sex with Satan ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil) does it mean that Adam had sex with the devil too, since the Bible tells us that Adam also ate of the same tree?

Short answer: no.
William Branham, one of those who taught serpent's seed doctrine explained it this way:

Now I know in answering one question another one is apt to come up, and people ask me, “If Eve fell that way, what did Adam do, for God lays the blame on Adam?” That is simple. The Word of God is forever settled in heaven. Before one speck of stardust was made, that Word (God’s law) was there exactly as it is written in our Bible. Now the Word teaches us that if a woman leaves her husband and goes with another man she is an adulteress and is no longer married and the husband is not to take her back. That Word was true in Eden as it was true when Moses wrote it in the law. The Word can’t change. Adam took her back. He knew exactly what he was doing, but he did it anyway. She was a part of him, and he was willing to take her responsibility upon himself. He would not let her go. So Eve conceived by him. He knew she would. He knew exactly what would happen to the human race, and he sold the human race into sin that he might have Eve, for he loved her.
(An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages, p104)
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By his action, Adam typed Jesus Christ who took our sin on Himself for His love of His bride, the Church ( 2 Corinthians 5:21)