The LDS temples

[twhite982]

Does the fact that the "discourses" are only "taught" and are not "standard works" make them exempt from analysis?

Absolutely NOT.

The problem MOST who are critics of the LDS church run into that quote from the JofD is that they equate it as a source for official LDS doctrine.

Will there ever be a time when such "teachings" are "official doctrine"?

I don't know.

But to reiterate what I've already said when the talks are based upon our foundations sources, the standard works, it would seem then that they are doctrine for the church, but the JofD is NOT the source of the doctrine.

Is this something the LDS organization is trying to understand at the present time?

Couldn't tell ya.

Many LDS members study the JofD, but with 26 volumes its a daunting task.


Tom

 

[twhite982]

Are they different than the LDS bookstores that LDS go to in other states?

I'm guessing that when you say LDS bookstores you're referring to stores like deseret book.

This is NOT part of the church distribution, although church distribution material can be found there. They are not one and the same.


Tom

 

[Rescued One]

I'm guessing that when you say LDS bookstores you're referring to stores like deseret book.

This is NOT part of the church distribution, although church distribution material can be found there. They are not one and the same.


Tom

No, I thought Deseret was only in Utah. The LDS have LDS bookstores in various locations for the members to shop in, but other people can go to them also if they know about them. Anyway, we bought our JoD in an LDS bookstore.

 

[twhite982]

No, I thought Deseret was only in Utah.

No the state is sometimes called the deseret state, but the company called deseret book is ALL over the place.

In fact they are in Portland where I live.

The LDS have LDS bookstores in various locations for the members to shop in, but other people can go to them also if they know about them. Anyway, we bought our JoD in an LDS bookstore.

Most likely it was deseret book.


Tom

 

[Rescued One]

No the state is sometimes called the deseret state, but the company called deseret book is ALL over the place.

In fact they are in Portland where I live.

Most likely it was deseret book.


Tom

Even if it has another name?

 

[unbound]

I used to stop in at a Deseret Books in St.Louis. But they are gone now....I dont know of any other LDS book stores.

 

[twhite982]

Even if it has another name?

There are other LDS bookstores, but deseret book is the biggest, so I took a guess it was that one you visited.

Tom

 

[twhite982]

I used to stop in at a Deseret Books in St.Louis. But they are gone now....I dont know of any other LDS book stores.

They are a bunch online, in fact LDS church distribution is available online, but I think the person has to be a member to order from them. I could be wrong.


Tom

 

[Rescued One]

Thanks for your help, Tom. I guess you'd have to have lived in my neck of the woods to know what I'm talking about. I never thought to ask the owners if they were part of Deseret Books.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

No the state is sometimes called the deseret state, but the company called deseret book is ALL over the place.

In fact they are in Portland where I live.

Most likely it was deseret book.


Tom

Tom, you live in Portland, I have LDS family in Portland. For all we know, they could be in your ward....LOL

Grace

 

[Wrigley]

Rnmomof7

here are some links that white wouldn't help you with.

http://journals.mormonfundamentalism.org/

http://www.mormonismi.net/jod/

 

[skylark1]

Reed Smoot was the legally elected Senator from Utah. However, a nationwide protest against him taking office was promoted by several different religious organizations. They made all kinds of allegations including that he was a polygamist (which was false.) The senate impaneled a committee to hear evidence on whether or not Smoot was eligible to represent the state of Utah. Mostly it was a smear campaign directed at Mormonism rather than at Reed Smoot. ...

Alma,

Thank you for your detailed explanation (which I only partially quoted) concerning the Reed Smoot investigation. I wasn't aware of any of this. I had previously read the first quotation that you posted from the investigation, but I had no idea what the investigation was even about.

Do you have any idea when the practice of sealing living people for "eternity only" ceased, or has it?

 

[Alma]

Alma,

Thank you for your detailed explanation (which I only partially quoted) concerning the Reed Smoot investigation. I wasn't aware of any of this. I had previously read the first quotation that you posted from the investigation, but I had no idea what the investigation was even about.

Do you have any idea when the practice of sealing living people for "eternity only" ceased, or has it?

I only know of two public comments by LDS leaders about the practice; one from the Smoot hearings, where J F Smith said that it had not occurred for more than 20 years at that time (1903.) The other comes from LDS Apostle John Widstoe who listed it as a practice, but not a current one back in the 1950's. So, all I can do is surmise that the practice ceased during the 1870's or shortly thereafter about the same time the church quit allowing women to be sealed posthumously to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

Alma

 

[fatboys]

Does the fact that the "discourses" are only "taught" and are not "standard works" make them exempt from analysis? Will there ever be a time when such "teachings" are "official doctrine"? Is this something the LDS organization is trying to understand at the present time?

FB: Even though personal thoughts and opinions can be taught, they are not binding on us as a people even if what is taught is true. If it is not part of the Standard works it makes no difference. If Adam God is true as taught by anti's, it makes no difference since we don't teach it and it is not binding on us as a teaching because it is not part of our canon of scriptures. What is important is what the scriptures teach us as doctrine. What ever is not doctrine but has been taught, is not necessary for our salvation. What is important is following the teachings of Christ as found in our canon of scriptures.