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Sorry to tell you, but they are all supported with evidence even in GPS as time and gravity are related as Einstein predicted.
Its upto you to demonstrate the view their discoveries are 'unsupported' with all the evidence was laid bare in the documentary!
...but dad thinks he has craftily maneuvered us around so as to avoid that nasty burden of proof. What a genius.
Do you think Jesus would be impressed with this tactic? I doubt it. No sense of humour, that guy, and I'm sure he wouldn't have patience for this.
What do you think, dad?
If it was a fact it would be easy to support. What you offer is not...why is that!?
I think that you foundational belief in a present state as the key to the past needs support....but dad thinks he has craftily maneuvered us around so as to avoid that nasty burden of proof. What a genius.
Do you think Jesus would be impressed with this tactic? I doubt it. No sense of humour, that guy, and I'm sure he wouldn't have patience for this.
What do you think, dad?
I think that you foundational belief in a present state as the key to the past needs support.
...but dad thinks he has craftily maneuvered us around so as to avoid that nasty burden of proof. What a genius.
Do you think Jesus would be impressed with this tactic? I doubt it. No sense of humour, that guy, and I'm sure he wouldn't have patience for this.
What do you think, dad?
Irrelevant! The earth zone is not an issue. Nor earth space.Einstein predicted that gravity distorts space time and they found that the GPS satelites orbiting the earth had time running faster than here on earth. The consequences of that would mean that gps would not work.
We can also observe moons orbiting planets,
False dichotomy. We also see atoms orbiting, and Ezekiel saw angels going round God's star. (or wheel). So? Stuff going round does NOT mean it goes round as a planet with our laws....we can see stars orbiting eachpther in binary systems so the same laws apply 'much further out' because gravity exists everywhere in the universe.
As shown, that is false. I accept Einstein for the earth zone, or fishbowl!The onus is on you to disprove Einstein, the observations made by Hubble.
Excellent. ...They do not need pulling apart. Not near earth. So? You see, you need to extend them to deep space.So I name 2 related discoveries for you to 'pull apart', gravity and relativity.
Go on then!
Well, unless you can prove it was the same, there is no need. ..Go on?Ok, y'know what? Testicles to this.
Describe how the "past state" was different. Go on.
I think that you foundational belief in a present state as the key to the past needs support.
And same state past godless creation denying science will?? Get serious.Both Dad,AV and CTD seem to think they are winning the argument just by saying 'unsupported' and off the cuff remarks like that....continiuously. At least AV comes up with his vies (see my signature) as an alternative. What saddens me is neither of them will win over you to Christ with stances like that.
Well, then keep seeking. Just don't pretend you found...My view is that I have no conflict with a faith in Christ and my study of science; in fact in compliments one another and having done theology and studied writing styles in the bible understand the difference between poetry and literalism.
As Einstein once said, " I want to know the mind of God"
So you do not accept that the present is the key to the past, as geology and much of so called science does?That is not my claim.
Do try to keep up.
Did you have a claim you would like to make?
Nonsense. Unless we are looking through space that is our own, none of what we see can be measured by earth zone rules and measures.Vary simple, all that one needs to do is look through a large telescope (like Hubble) and you are observing the universe 'in a past state', as you are looking back in time, due to the fact the objects are many light years away.
Well, unless you can prove it was the same, there is no need. ..Go on?
...but dad thinks he has craftily maneuvered us around so as to avoid that nasty burden of proof. What a genius.
Do you think Jesus would be impressed with this tactic? I doubt it. No sense of humour, that guy, and I'm sure he wouldn't have patience for this.
What do you think, dad?
I was 'theismless' for my first 38 years or so, but I used to say 'God is in the details'. With my kids getting to 'asking questions' stage, I went on a bit of a science and religion bender. I respect others' beliefs, but dad is making a mockery of god concept. Does dad imagine Jesus as a con man? a little shell game player? Guess under which cup is the ball? Good gravy, even I think more of Jesus, even if I don't see evidence of his divinity.Both Dad,AV and CTD seem to think they are winning the argument just by saying 'unsupported' and off the cuff remarks like that....continiuously. At least AV comes up with his vies (see my signature) as an alternative. What saddens me is neither of them will win over you to Christ with stances like that.
My view is that I have no conflict with a faith in Christ and my study of science; in fact in compliments one another and having done theology and studied writing styles in the bible understand the difference between poetry and literalism.
As Einstein once said, " I want to know the mind of God"
I was 'theismless' for my first 38 years or so, but I used to say 'God is in the details'. With my kids getting to 'asking questions' stage, I went on a bit of a science and religion bender. I respect others' beliefs, but dad is making a mockery of god concept. Does dad imagine Jesus as a con man? a little shell game player? Guess under which cup is the ball? Good gravy, even I think more of Jesus, even if I don't see evidence of his divinity.
So you do not accept that the present is the key to the past, as geology and much of so called science does?
dad said:I have no reason to believe gravity as we know it existed. The forces and balance of forces may have been quite different. Ever wonder how they built the early pyramids?
And same state past godless creation denying science will?? Get serious.
Well, then keep seeking. Just don't pretend you found...
Nonsense. Unless we are looking through space that is our own, none of what we see can be measured by earth zone rules and measures.
I was 'theismless' for my first 38 years or so, but I used to say 'God is in the details'. With my kids getting to 'asking questions' stage, I went on a bit of a science and religion bender. I respect others' beliefs, but dad is making a mockery of god concept. Does dad imagine Jesus as a con man? a little shell game player? Guess under which cup is the ball? Good gravy, even I think more of Jesus, even if I don't see evidence of his divinity.
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