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The Laws of God

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The Law of Moses

The Law of Jesus

Jesus laid down several laws that replaced several of the laws of Moses.

That is a fact.

Moses said that God would send Jesus and that they were to do as he commanded them.

That is a fact.

The Law of Jesus.:thumbsup:

The Bible says that Jesus came to magnify the Law and restore honor to it.
 
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Jesus laid down several commandments of God that replaced several commandments in the law of Moses given to Moses by God.

So God contradicts Himself and changes His mind on things... :confused:

That doesn't sound like God's way at all, that sounds like confusion and we all know who the author of confusion is...
 
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So God contradicts Himself and changes His mind on things... :confused:

That doesn't sound like God's way at all, that sounds like confusion and we all know who the author of confusion is...

What Sam said in his OP can be proven as biblical facts.
Sam is probably a sabbatarian like yourselves:doh:, why not let him express himself without insults or highjacking his intent?
 
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You guys act like the laws at sinai and what Jesus spoke of are somehow different. The principles are exactly the same, its only the application that changed... type vs antitype.

Jesus did not speak arbitrarily during His ministry but by the Fathers instruction through the Holy Spirit... the same voice that spoke to Moses on the mountain. So, either the Father changed His mind on the rules for mankind or He didn't....
 
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You guys act like the laws at sinai and what Jesus spoke of are somehow different. The principles are exactly the same, its only the application that changed... type vs antitype.

The principles found in all of the law continue to be valuable. This isn't limited to the covenant that was from Sinai.

Jesus did not speak arbitrarily during His ministry but by the Fathers instruction through the Holy Spirit... the same voice that spoke to Moses on the mountain. So, either the Father changed His mind on the rules for mankind or He didn't....

You tell me. Did the Father change His mind regarding animal sacrifices?

BFA
 
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The principles found in all of the law continue to be valuable. This isn't limited to the covenant that was from Sinai.



You tell me. Did the Father change His mind regarding animal sacrifices?

BFA

No He didn't, there was a type and an antitype... nothing changed in the meaning of the sacrifice, only that one was a symbol til the true was fulfilled.
 
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You guys act like the laws at sinai and what Jesus spoke of are somehow different. The principles are exactly the same, its only the application that changed... type vs antitype.
Some people don't understand the Bible as well as they think they do. Others are deliberately obtuse.
 
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No He didn't, there was a type and an antitype... nothing changed in the meaning of the sacrifice, only that one was a symbol til the true was fulfilled.

Could we say the same thing about:
The Passover?
The Feast of Tabernacles?

The Day of Atonement?
Could we say that nothing changed in terms of their meaning and that they were only symbols until the reality was fulfilled?

BFA
 
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Although likely true, the Bible confirms that there are none who understand. This should put all of us on an even playing field.

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None who understand according to his own wisdom. But certainly it is meant to be understood. However, it will be by the leading of the Holy Spirit and not the individual opinions of man.
 
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None who understand according to his own wisdom. But certainly it is meant to be understood. However, it will be by the leading of the Holy Spirit and not the individual opinions of man.

Not sure that we disagree. However, I do become concerned when we conclude that some men understand more than others. In my mind, that is like saying that some men are less sinful than others.
All sin.
All misunderstand.
BFA
 
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Some are redeemed.

Doesn't change the fact that all sin. Redemption has a divine and not a human origin.

Some have spiritual discernment.

Doesn't change the fact that all misunderstand. Spiritual discernment has a divine and not a human origin.

BFA
 
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Doesn't change the fact that all sin. Redemption has a divine and not a human origin.



Doesn't change the fact that all misunderstand. Spiritual discernment has a divine and not a human origin.

BFA

Divine origin but human application.
 
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