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For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
Safety and peace is the new slogan for the Obama administration's Middle East peace drive.


This has been the cry from past Presidents for at least the past 50 years.


It is the Peace and Safety of the United States that is in great jeopardy. Teetering on the edge of the abyss, all too blind to the cataclysmic fall that lies before the tips of her feet. She is too arrogant to acknowledge the merciful and gracious warnings from upon HIGH.
According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage each other with these words. Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. ( I Thessalonians 4:15-5:9 NIV)
Compare these words of Paul with the words of Jesus, as recorded in Luke 21:34-36,
Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.
Paul referred to the Day of the Lord as a day that would come "like a thief in the night" and "suddenly" with great destruction. Jesus warned about "that day," and predicted that those who were not aware would be surprised by it, and it would "close on you unexpectedly like a trap." The similarities are obvious, and Jesus and Paul are speaking on the very same subject.
The Bible emphatically says that the peace and safety "CRY" is all that it is -- a cry for peace and safety. It didn't say they were going to HAVE peace and safety, but that they DESIRE peace and safety. In fact, as they cry for a period of peace and safety, they are going to end up with sudden destruction. This demonstrates what Yahweh thinks of their desire for such a state. He makes it very clear when He says in Isa. 48:22 and 57:21 "there is no peace saith Yahweh unto the wicked." We feel that this categorical statement made in two places in Isaiah clearly and emphatically indicates that Yahweh will not let the wicked have peace. He further says as a lead into Isa. 57:21, that He is the provider of peace, but the wicked are like a troubled sea that cannot rest.
"But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked." (Isa. 57:20-21, KJV).
I find it very peculiar that in spite of our so-called “one nation under God” statement, our actions speak louder then our words.

American arms manufacturers have two major channels through which they can sell major weaponry to foreign countries: foreign military sales ("FMS"), in which a government-to-government agreement is negotiated by the Pentagon; and direct commercial sales ("DCS"), in which industry negotiates directly with the purchasing country and must apply for a license from the State Department.
The United States government also transfers arms to other countries by giving away weapons from U.S.military stocks for free or at greatly reduced prices, classified as excess defense articles (EDA) or emergency "drawdowns." The United States also provides military training to many foreign countries. These transfers are also managed by the Defense Department. For more information about types of U.S.arms transfers, read the "Ways and Means" chapter of The Arms Trade Revealed.

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Federation of American Scientists :: U.S. Arms Transfers: Government Data
World's largest defense budgets

This is a list of the ten countries with the highest defence budgets for the year 2008. The information is from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.[8][9] Total world spending amounted to $1.464 trillion USD in 2008.
Rank
Country
Spending ($ b.)
World Share (%)
% of GDP, 2008
—
World Total
1464.0
100
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1
United States
607.0​
41.5​
4.3​
2
China
84.9a
5.8a
2.0​
3
France
65.7​
4.5​
2.3​
4
United Kingdom
65.3​
4.5​
2.5​
5
Russia
58.6a
4.0a
3.5​
6
Germany
46.8​
3.2​
1.3​
7
Japan
46.3​
3.2​
0.9​
8
Italy
40.6​
2.8​
1.7​
9
Saudi Arabia
38.2​
2.6​
8.2​
10
India
32.7​
2.1​
2.6​
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Pornography Statistics

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Biggest Outsourcing Companies

According to Techsunite.org, the top 10 companies that have outsourced the most jobs, along with the number outsourced are:

  • IBM 63,700
  • EDS 22,400
  • Dell 17,450
  • Cognizant 15,000
  • Siemens AG 15,000
  • General Electric 14,250
  • Convergys 14,000
  • Accenture 13,000
  • Computer Sciences Corp 10,800
  • Intel 10,426
These 10 companies are by themselves responsible for outsourcing nearly 200,000 jobs.
Job Loss Projections

As bad as these outsourcing numbers look, it is only the tip of the projected iceberg. According to the U.S. Department of Labor and Forrester Research, Inc, outsourcing is expected to expand in numbers and scope.
Number of U.S. Jobs Moving Offshore
Job Category
2000
2005
2010
2015
Management
0
37,477
117,835
288,281
Business
10,787
61,252
161,722
348,028
Computer
27,171
108,991
276,954
472,632
Architecture
3,498
32,302
83,237
184,347
Life Sciences
0
3,677
14,478
36,770
Legal
1,793
14,220
34,673
74,642
Art, design
818
5,576
13,846
29,639
Sales
4,619
29,064
97,321
226,564
Office
53,987
295,034
791,034
1,659,310
Total
102,674
587,592
1,591,101
3,320,213
According to these projections, outsourcing is still in the beginning stages. As technology increases and companies learn more about exporting, the numbers will begin to skyrocket.
Facts and Figures on Outsourcing - LoveToKnow Jobs and Careers

This list goes on ad infinitum…

We are living on barrowed time and act like everything is fine and dandy.

This is what the Word says…
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
A well-known self-destructive cycle of democratic behavior has been attributed to an eighteenth century historian by the name of Alexander Tytler. Whether Tytler is the original author or not, the concept of democratic self-destruction has been proven accurate, right here in America.
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

“From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”

The final stage of the cycle is the fall back into bandage.

Thomas Jefferson provided the perfect warning with this statement, “A government big enough to give you anything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”

Eph. 5:14
For the light makes everything visible. This is why it is said, "Awake, O sleeper, rise up from the dead, and Christ will give you light."

In this posting there is light shed on many aspects of what is actually happening these days.

Our votes were counted, now we will have to suffer the consequences.

Very much like when we didn’t vote back in 1962 and the bible was removed from influencing our children while they are in public schools.

Prayer and the Bible Removed from U.S. Public Schools


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I'm glad you can recognize sarcasm.

LOL (as a mildly amused observer) :D :D :D

There's a valuable lesson in there, Chilled Water. Sarcasm can be instantly turned back on ya :wave:

Just one of many reasons to avoid it ...


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The bible has always been and always will be Israel-centric.
If it says the valley of Armageddon, then that´s where it will take place, in THE valley of Armageddon.

God is not finished with Israel, they are his chosen people, he started with them and he will end all with them.:)
 
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The bible has always been and always will be Israel-centric.
If it says the valley of Armageddon, then that´s where it will take place, in THE valley of Armageddon.

God is not finished with Israel, they are his chosen people, he started with them and he will end all with them.:)



I agree...He isn't finished with us. We are His chosen people. He began with us and He will end with all of us. Both the house of Judah and the house of Israel:

Matthew 15:24 But He answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.




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The bible has always been and always will be Israel-centric.
If it says the valley of Armageddon, then that´s where it will take place, in THE valley of Armageddon.

God is not finished with Israel, they are his chosen people, he started with them and he will end all with them.:)

I agree that the chosen people are Israel. However ...
I Samuel 10:18 And said unto the children of Israel, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I brought up Israel out of Egypt, and delivered you out of the hand of the Egyptians, and out of the hand of all kingdoms, and of them that oppressed you:
I Kings 8:16 Since the day that I brought forth my people Israel out of Egypt, I chose no city out of all the tribes of Israel to build an house, that my name might be therein; but I chose David to be over my people Israel.
Judges 11:13 And the king of the children of Ammon answered unto the messengers of Jephthah, Because Israel took away my land, when they came up out of Egypt, from Arnon even unto Jabbok, and unto Jordan: now therefore restore those lands again peaceably.
There are quite a few other examples in OT scripture indicating that Israel is a "people", not a country with physical boundaries. Where is Israel (speaking of the people) now?

Clearly, the nation of Israel isn't the home for all the current descendents of Israel. Sooo ...


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Clearly, the nation of Israel isn't the home for all the current descendents of Israel. Sooo ...


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Of course this is true, but Israel has been filled with the descendants of the original inhabitants of the land God gave to them. There will always be jews all over the world, jews inhabited lands outside of the so-called lands of Israel and Judah in ancient times.

But nonetheless, jews again live in the lands that God destined for them.
So, in the last days, when prophecy speaks of Israel, it´s not some symbolic people, it´s THE nation of Israel and it´s jewish inhabitants.

Ezekiel 37:11

11 Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’

12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel.

13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.
 
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Of course this is true, but Israel has been filled with the descendants of the original inhabitants of the land God gave to them. There will always be jews all over the world, jews inhabited lands outside of the so-called lands of Israel and Judah in ancient times.

But nonetheless, jews again live in the lands that God destined for them.
So, in the last days, when prophecy speaks of Israel, it´s not some symbolic people, it´s THE nation of Israel and it´s jewish inhabitants.

Really? Are you sure?
Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
There are other similar verses, of course. There are multiple verses which indicate more than one group being of Israel.

One of the most interesting to me is Micah 4:
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;
7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.
8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counseller perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail.
10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.
11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.
12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.
13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.
Note that the daughter of Zion is clearly different from Zion above. They are two different places. And it is to the daughter of Zion where the "kingdom" comes first.


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Of course this is true, but Israel has been filled with the descendants of the original inhabitants of the land God gave to them. There will always be jews all over the world, jews inhabited lands outside of the so-called lands of Israel and Judah in ancient times.

But nonetheless, jews again live in the lands that God destined for them.
So, in the last days, when prophecy speaks of Israel, it´s not some symbolic people, it´s THE nation of Israel and it´s jewish inhabitants.

Ezekiel 37:11

11 Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’

12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel.

13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.



Your Bible doesn't properly translate His word. For instance, a key verse is.....

KJV
Ezekiel 37:11 Then He said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.


Compare that to yours where "house of" was left out. Why, for it is crucial to understanding who we are, whose bones are laying around...cut off from our brother Judah.


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Of course this is true, but Israel has been filled with the descendants of the original inhabitants of the land God gave to them. There will always be jews all over the world, jews inhabited lands outside of the so-called lands of Israel and Judah in ancient times.

But nonetheless, jews again live in the lands that God destined for them.
So, in the last days, when prophecy speaks of Israel, it´s not some symbolic people, it´s THE nation of Israel and it´s jewish inhabitants.

Ezekiel 37:11

11 Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’

12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel.

13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.
there are 12 tribes...
there are 2 houses...Israel and Judah


the JEWS = 1 of 2 houses...the house of Judah

the JEWS do not = Israel.

Israel consists of 12 tribes....

calling Israel by the name Jew is not correct
nor is it what the Lord had in mind when He says Israel.


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This war likely happens halfway through the antichrists treaty with Israel, or even potentially at the end of the 7 years. And it involves literal Israel just as the Text says.



Yes...just as the text said, it involves Israel...which includes the house of Israel. :)



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Murray's idea that the USA is national Israel is absurd .... Israel is in the Middle East where it has always been .... and a remnant of the nation has returned today and in place for the Lord's purposes

Unless one is an ethnic Israelite .... one is not a member of the nation of Israel

What a folly this man Murray has digested ..... he brings it from Herbert W. Armstrong, a past and known false prophet and false teacher .... and mixes it with his serpent seed doctrine and spews around today

There is no truth in his ranting
 
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Murray's idea that the USA is national Israel is absurd .... Israel is in the Middle East where it has always been .... and a remnant of the nation has returned today and in place for the Lord's purposes

Unless one is an ethnic Israelite .... one is not a member of the nation of Israel

What a folly this man Murray has digested ..... he brings it from Herbert W. Armstrong, a past and known false prophet and false teacher .... and mixes it with his serpent seed doctrine and spews around today

There is no truth in his ranting


Ranting? Please quote the person you speak of...where is he ranting? Where did he post? I don't see him anywhere and yet you continue to mention his name? :confused:



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Murray's idea that the USA is national Israel is absurd .... Israel is in the Middle East where it has always been .... and a remnant of the nation has returned today and in place for the Lord's purposes
Israel in the Bible is a lineage of people. Ignore that truth at your own peril ...

Consider just the one simple fact that at one time Israel was in Egypt.

Unless one is an ethnic Israelite .... one is not a member of the nation of Israel
Even those claiming such ancestry have no way to prove it. No doubt some in the nation of Israel have such ancestry, some don't. Many in the USA have such ancestry, many don't. Doesn't prove or disprove a thing.

There is no truth in his ranting
No doubt some of it is incorrect, just as some of your words have been shown to be incorrect.


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Ranting? Please quote the person you speak of...where is he ranting? Where did he post? I don't see him anywhere and yet you continue to mention his name? :confused:



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He speaks of Arnold Murray of Shepherds Chapel I believe and all the Misconceptions that He sows among the followers of Jesus .........May God Bless You and all who contribute to this thread.......Dave
 
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