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1whirlwind

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"Ranting? Please quote the person you speak of...where is he ranting? Where did he post? I don't see him anywhere and yet you continue to mention his name?"

>You know who Arnold Murray is



Please provide his rants. As you seem to be so very infatuated with him surely he has posted on the forum...otherwise why would you care? Why would you continue to mention him again and again and again and again?

If, on the other hand, you are attempting to chatise me with this rather silly attempt then should you not provide my quotes professing his teaching? Other than that you might consider getting over this obsession.

I await your decision. :wave:



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I use Murray as an example of false teaching .... and there are others like him

And I know that you follow him by what you post

Anyone who wants information about Arnold Murray and his religious movement can access it on the Internet

And I could post the same on this forum ..... believe it

And I could say much more about his teachings and warn others not to follow the likes of Murray .... maybe I will

A great study of the cult factions of professing christianity can be gleaned from Murray's perverted form of Bible prophecy and related
 
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I use Murray as an example of false teaching .... and there are others like him

And I know that you follow him by what you post

Anyone who wants information about Arnold Murray and his religious movement can access it on the Internet

And I could post the same on this forum ..... believe it

And I could say much more about his teachings and warn others not to follow the likes of Murray .... maybe I will

A great study of the cult factions of professing christianity can be gleaned from Murray's perverted form of Bible prophecy and related



In other words....you CAN'T post anything I've said that is a quote showing a "rant," of perverted Christianity and yet you continue to beat the "ranting cult" drum. My, my Stephen...tsk, tsk, tsk. And all because you can't deal with the written word of the Lord...you know, the word about false prophets that teach My children to fly to save their souls, as you are presently doing. (just say'in).

And, there is that other question you have yet to answer. Do you continue to believe and teach that those that don't believe in rapture are doomed to burn in hell?



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I use Murray as an example of false teaching .... and there are others like him

And I know that you follow him by what you post

Anyone who wants information about Arnold Murray and his religious movement can access it on the Internet

And I could post the same on this forum ..... believe it

And I could say much more about his teachings and warn others not to follow the likes of Murray .... maybe I will

A great study of the cult factions of professing christianity can be gleaned from Murray's perverted form of Bible prophecy and related


i'll save ya the time...;)

here is a link to answer the critics like you,
and a link to the statement of faith


Shepherd's Chapel - Answer to Critics

Shepherd's Chapel - Statement of Faith - Page 1
 
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my beliefs are rather similar, aren't they?

since Mr Murray is not here to defend himself to your accusations,
i thought i would simply give links to his professed beliefs posted online by the organization...
so everyone can see for themselves if your hearsay is legit
or if it is sin filled, baseless accusations of a fellow Brethren.

you have done nothing but present hearsay...
so I thought i would bring the proof for all who are interested
so they can see for themselves


you understand right?
be honest!


Shepherd's Chapel - Answer to Critics

Shepherd's Chapel - Statement of Faith - Page 1
 
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LittleLambofJesus

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*snip*

I watched the Glen Beck show yesterday afternoon. If you're at all interested in today's events please tune in this week.

Armageddon is a spiritual war, one being waged now but Gog is, I believe, literal! Where will it take place? America...Russia invading by way of Alaska.

Brother against brother....Esau against Jacob...Russia against America.
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My view is they both one and the same event and it all happens in Israel :blush:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7413416/
Armegeddon and Gog-Magog same event?
 
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Really? Are you sure?
Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
There are other similar verses, of course. There are multiple verses which indicate more than one group being of Israel.

One of the most interesting to me is Micah 4:
Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;
7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.
8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counseller perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail.
10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.
11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.
12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.
13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.
Note that the daughter of Zion is clearly different from Zion above. They are two different places. And it is to the daughter of Zion where the "kingdom" comes first.


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I really want to get back to this and discuss further, BUT I have a biochem exam coming up next thursday and have to study for that :prayer:

I´ll get back to you as soon as possible, if that´s okay?:)
 
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You aren't alone in that belief Little Lamb. :wave:
I know I'm rowing against the tide but...row I shall. ^_^

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Kinda like salmon trying to swim against the current of a river to spawn, with bears waiting to devour them :)

http://www.christianforums.com/t7513656-18/#post56128555
Beware da bear!

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number H1677 matches the Hebrew דֹּב (dob), which occurs 12 times in 12 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV

Hosea 13:8 I shall meet them as a bear bereaved of her whelps, and will rend enclosure of their heart;
and I shall devour them there as a great-lion, animal of the field she shall rend them

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G715 matches the Greek ἄρκτος (arktos), which occurs 1 time in 1 verse in the Greek concordance of the KJV

Reve 13:2 And the beast I saw was like a leopard, and the feet of it as of bear, and the mouth of it as mouth of lion.
And gives to it, the dragon, the power of him and the throne of him and great authority.

salmon_2.jpg
 
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