The KJVO myth...

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Again, the simple fact that the KJV and other translation differ does not postulate any basis for saying "the KJV is right". Even when you like the KJV more because you personally think the commands in it are better formulated.

No. It’s a pattern of the King James Bible winning out on top every time with the Modern Translations putting things in them that are inferior by comparison. I actually provided 30 reasons in Scripture and in defense of the KJB being the Word of God not just one reason. So it’s not like I am just basing my decision off of a throw of a dart or anything.

 

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But if you need more, there is also biblical numerics, as well.

+.............Luke 4:4
+........Matthew 4:4
+ Deuteronomy 8:3
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= ..................16:11

1 column (green) added up together in a straight line down = 16.

One column (red) added up together in a straight line down = 11.

This is a total of 16:11 or 1611.

The year 1611 (Which is a major change in human history) with the bringing in of the King James Bible.

This is a terrible argument. I hope you are not serious.

 

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... are inferior by comparison...

And you are judging the superiority and inferiority by your subjective feelings while reading it in English?

 

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This sounds too fanatical. Like from some "Exorcist" movie.

The real life reasons why something happens are much more pragmatical.

If we were talking about one verse only here, then you might be right, but there are several verses where this takes place. Whether you believe these facts or not is irrelevant. They are still true.

 

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This is a terrible argument. I hope you are not serious.

Again, what are the odds of that happening? Also, there is more. Much, much, much more whereby you cannot rule it out as coincidence every time. If you were to watch Mike Hoggard’s videos and consider the evidence he presents, you will be amazed.

Side Note:

Oh, and if this was the only evidence I had for biblical numerics, I can see you being in shock like you are. But what I presented is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

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And you are judging the superiority and inferiority by your subjective feelings while reading it in English?

God gave us a moral compass and feelings that can align with that. Sure, there are feelings that lead towards darkness and sin, but where have I presented as such?

Also, what makes you feel that God has only preserved His Word in the original languages? Does the Bible talk about this?

 

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If we were talking about one verse only here, then you might be right, but there are several verses where this takes place. Whether you believe these facts or not is irrelevant. They are still true.

When there are some words in the very old manuscripts and these manuscrips are preferred today, it really sounds too fanatical and paranoid to say "devil is trying..."

 

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When there are some words in the very old manuscripts and these manuscrips are preferred today, it really sounds too fanatical and paranoid to say "devil is trying..."

Did you even bother to look at the verses I presented?
You can just hit the disagree button all you like, but a good Berean seeks out the truth in God’s Word to see whether those things be so or not.

 

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God gave us a moral compass and feelings that can align with that. Sure, there are feelings that lead towards darkness and sin, but where have I presented as such?

If the moral compass you are talking about is given to "us", not just to you, it does not make much sense that we do not agree with you.

Also, what makes you feel that God has only preserved His Word in the original languages? Does the Bible talk about this?

What statement of mine are you talking about?

 

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Did you even bother to look at the verses I presented?
You can just hit the disagree button all you like, but a good Berean seeks out the truth in God’s Word to see whether those things be so or not.

Did you even bother to have a conversation without copy and paste some long lists you have prepared in your computer to use again and again to hammer the opponent with the quantity?

 

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When there are some words in the very old manuscripts and these manuscrips are preferred today, it really sounds too fanatical and paranoid to say "devil is trying..."

Well, that is not far off because…. If we have a Bible that eliminates the Trinity, waters down things like: holy living, the blood atonement, the deity of Christ, then it is not just a mistake but intentional (with forces working behind the scenes).

 

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If the moral compass you are talking about is given to "us", not just to you, it does not make much sense that we do not agree with you.


What statement of mine are you talking about?

You have to be a good Berean though. You seem to be just throwing aside the evidence I present without carefully considering it with the Word of God.

 

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Did you even bother to have a conversation without copy and paste some long lists you have prepared in your computer to use again and again to hammer the opponent with the quantity?

So a conversation is more superior to getting at the truth than say work that was done by studying God’s Word? Have you never did a study like that before whereby you have copied and pasted something God has shown to you?

 

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Well, that is not far off because…. If we have a Bible that eliminates the Trinity, waters down things like: holy living, the blood atonement, the deity of Christ, then it is not just a mistake but intentional (with forces working behind the scenes).

"Eliminates... waters down....".

Its hard to rationally discuss a topic if you are emotionally attached to one specific side, already.

 

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Did you even bother to have a conversation without copy and paste some long lists you have prepared in your computer to use again and again to hammer the opponent with the quantity?

Well, much of my copy and paste includes Scripture for you to address. Brushing it aside does not help prove your case any.

 

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"Eliminates... waters down....".

Its hard to rationally discuss a topic if you are emotionally attached to one specific side, already.

I can say the same for you. I get the impression that you think that Christians who hold to King James Bible as the pure Word of God are crazy or fanatical. I do use Modern Translations, but my final Word of authority is the KJB. For what other word am I going to make as my authority? Myself interpreting a dead language? Not all manuscripts are even the same. Which line of manuscripts should I choose?

 

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Well, much of my copy and paste includes Scripture for you to address. Brushing it aside does not help prove your case any.

Actually, it seems that your extra long prepared lists you randomly copy and paste in the middle of a conversation do not help you to prove your case.

Sometimes, less is more.

 

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I can say the same for you. I get the impression that you think that Christians who hold to King James Bible as the pure Word of God are crazy or fanatical.

No need to generalize something I said specifically to your concrete way of presenting your evidence.

For what other word am I going to make as my authority? Myself interpreting a dead language? Not all manuscripts are even the same. Which line of manuscripts should I choose?

I think you are overthinking it too much. Every real Christian is lead by the Spirit of God and does not need to have 1000 pages of some "perfect" text to tell him how to live.

I think you know that you should love your neighbour, to take care of your family, not to lie etc even if you are not sure what sentence Jeremiah used for some old prophecy.

Do not make the mistake of making the form/way to be the goal.

 

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"Eliminates... waters down....".

Its hard to rationally discuss a topic if you are emotionally attached to one specific side, already.

Not sure if you are aware of this fact or not, but those who hold to the Critical Text (i.e. where all Modern Translations are based on) say that their manuscript evidence originates from Alexandria, Egypt. Why is that a problem? Well, if you were to Google the origin of Arianism, Alexandria, Egypt comes up as the place of origin. Now, you may yet again write it off as coincidence, but 1 John 5:7 (Which is the one and only verse that point blank teaches the Trinity) is removed from Modern Translations (Based on the Critical Text). The Critical Text comes from the birth place of Arianism or those who deny the Trinity.

 

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Actually, it seems that your extra long prepared lists you randomly copy and paste in the middle of a conversation do not help you to prove your case.

Sometimes, less is more.

Take your time to examine the evidence on your own time. But will do so? My guess is that you will not because you don’t want it to be true.