The Judgment Seat: By Torah or By Christ

Stricter Standard: Word of Christ or Law of Moses?

  • Law of Moses

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Word of Christ

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • There is no standard, Grace Abounds

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • Word of Christ and Torah are equal

    Votes: 4 25.0%

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Judgment Day's: 2 Final Judgment Seats

1) White Throne Judgment: Rev 20:11-13 = non-believers only.

What's the litmus test for sin - The LAW!

The people at the White Throne Judgment have rejected Christ's, redemptive sin atonement. Having no cover/cloak for sin (Jn 15:22) they are judged according to every jot & tittle of the Law

Everything they've ever done or said, has been "RECORDED". Every idle word ever spoken, is judged.

1 Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
(NOTE: Sin is the transgression of the law.)

We've all broken God's law & deserve it's sentence invoked in (Rom 6:23 A DEATH).

No one can say he is not a sinner until some means is provided (not to take away the law) but to remove the sin, which is the transgression of the law.

2) Judgment seat of Christ: Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:10, Phil 1:6 = believers only.
(NOTE: All written to believers: Rom 1:6-7, 2 Cor 1:1, Phil 1:1.)

Faith placed in Christ's Redemptive Sin Atoning Death (sins wage PAID), burial (proof he died) & resurrection (God's receipt, sin payment received & accepted).

ALL of the believers sins are IMPUTED (Rom chap 4) onto Jesus. And nailed to His Cross (Col 2:14)

Having had their sin removed, at the Judgment seat of Christ. The discussion is rewards, NOT judgement based.

Col 1:10 so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God;
(NOTE: When you stand before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Cor 5:10) Every good work you did in Christ's name, will receive a reward. Even a cold drink of water given in Jesus name. Matt 10:22)

1 Cor 3:8-14 Good works receive a reward. Bad or No works (DEAD) result in shame & or loss (Matt 25:28 take the talent, I gave him, & give it to another, that worked.

1 Cor 3:15 If anyone’s work is burned up, "he will suffer loss", "though he himself will be saved"
(NOTE: Hay, wood & stubble deeds/bad or No works (DEAD) will bring, shame & loss = of REWARDS not SALVATION)

Rereading verse 15: He "Will SUFFER LOSS", though he "HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED"

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1) White Throne Judgment: Rev 20:11-13 = non-believers only.
Revelation 20:12. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 20:15. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
All will rise and be judged here. Not those who are called believers avoid the lake of fire judgment, but those who are found in the lamb's book of life.
 
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Do Not Neglect Salvation Hebrews 2:
1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward,
3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard ,
4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles,
and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will
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The law of Moses & God is the first 5 books of the Bible
Looking back at this discussion today, I have a question. I am reading in Ezekiel 40-48, and finding extensive instructions and ordinances for what is referred to as "The Law of the House".
Ezekiel 43:12. This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof around about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.
Obviously not "The Law of Moses", but seems to establish a lot of requirements that are not found in The Pentateuch. Do you find this to be like an addendum, or do some of the requirements constitute changes to the way worship was conducted in the Temple?
 
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Ezekiel 43:12. This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof around about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.
Ezekiel 40-48 clearly not derived from the Pentetauch
The Law of the House must be the apostolic
doctrine of how the church is to order worship,
with details such as 1 Corinthians 11-15
 
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