The Interview with Dr. Kellogg

[rainbowinthesky]

Shubee, I simply stated that Jesus was unassuming. He was
unassuming in His demeanor. He did not impose Himself, not
even on His followers. Now you claim that I have put the
character of Jesus in a false light by stating that He did not
go out of His way to make sure that everybody understood
that He was the Son of God?

Here is an example of what I meant by Him being unassuming.
The following took place at His trial.

"'Are you the Son of God?' they asked with one voice. He said
unto them, 'Ye say that I am.' They cried out, 'What need we
any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of His own
mouth.'"

This was the third time they had pressed Him hard with the
question, "Are you the Christ?" "Are you the Son of God?"
He had remained silent until He finally said unto them, "Ye say
that I am."

Now to me, this shows that He was indeed unassuming.

In John 6:25-66 He was teaching His disciples who were very slow
to learn and ready to forget. He was teaching them a spiritual
lesson about His relationship to them, that He was the bread of life,
that unless they ate His flesh and drank His blood both physically
and spiritually they would perish.

In the Desire of Ages, p.660, the words of Jesus in John 6:53 are
quoted. "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink
His blood, you have no life in you."

Then we read the explanation: "This is true of our physical nature. Never
one, saint or sinner, eats His DAILY FOOD but he is nourished by the body
and the blood of Christ."

Therefore, "The light shining from that Communion service in the upper
chamber makes SACRED the PROVISIONS for our DAILY LIFE. The family
table becomes as the Table of the Lord, and EVERY MEAL a SACRAMENT."
Idem,660.

How is it that we are receiving His life in the provisions for our daily life?

"It is the Word of God, the impartation of His life, that gives life to the seed;
and of that life, we, in eating the grain, becomes partakers. This God desires
us to discern; He desires that even in receiving our daily bread we may
recognize His agency and may be brought into closer fellowship with Him."
Education, 108.

"It is His life that we receive in the sunshine, in the pure, sweet air and in the
food which builds up our bodies and sustains our strength." Education, 197-198.

More can be said on this aspect of John 6:53 but it will suffice for now.

And then the words of Jesus are quoted and explained so far as our spiritual
nature is concerned:

"And how much more are Christ's words true of our spiritual nature. He declares,
'Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life.' It is by
receiving the life for us poured out on Calvary's cross that we can live the
life of holiness. And this life we receive by receiving His Word, by doing those
things which He has commanded us." Idem, 660.

"The Words that I speak unto you, they are Spirit and they are life." John 6:63;
12:50.

For "In every command and in every promise of the Word of God is the power,
the very life of God, by which the command is to be fulfilled and the promise
realized. He who by faith is receiving the word is receiving the very life and
character of God." Christ's Object Lessons,38.

Much more could be said on this topic but that will suffice for now.

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[Castaway57]

Well, posting to yourself and using Eugene Shubert's stuff from another forum must mean something...lol, not sure what yet. I am sure you will reveal it in due time.

 

[rainbowinthesky]

For instruction purposes. Is that okay with you? I could ask
you why you are still posting when you said a few days ago
that your work here was finished! May be you will reveal it in
due time.

 

[rainbowinthesky]

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No, one cannot attain TO righteousness, one can only
accept the righteousness of Christ! You cannot attain
to something that you cannot achieve. The righteousness
of those that believe(have faith) when standing before God,
will not be a righteousness of their own, nor one that they
achieved with help...

DBDI
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Absolutely. When I wrote, "This is the only way the sinner can
attain to righteousness," you know that I meant by faith in the
merits of a crucified and risen Savior. You are right in saying that
it is the righteousness of Christ and not our own. Our own is filthy
rags.

Here it is again from a true representative of Adventist teaching:

"You cannot explain this faith that lays right hold upon the MERITS
of the blood of a crucified and risen Saviour to bring Christ's
righteousness into your life. Clothed with the righteousness of
Christ and not your own righteousness, you will not depend upon
what you can do or what you will do," for "Christ's righteousness
accomplishes everything" as "it is made manifest in obedience to
all the commandments of God." Faith & Works,65-66,27; Testimonies
to Ministers, 92.

Righteousness is right doing, God's right doing. It is God who is to
work in us both to will and to do His good pleasure (Phil.2:13) which
is expressed in the precepts of His holy law. (Rom.2:18) So His
righteousness fulfills the requirements of the law. And righteousness
is love. (Rom.13:10)

So as we bring to God the merits of Jesus and make that our only plea
to obtain the grace of the Holy Spirit that brings salvation to all men
(Titus 2:11), we are accepted and clothed with the robe of Christ's
righteousness (Phil.3:9) which fills up the measure of the law's
requirements.

This is the pure adventist teaching of the everlasting Gospel.

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[rainbowinthesky]

One more:

"Righteousness is obedience to the law. The law demands
righteousness, and this the sinner owes to the law; but he
is incapable of rendering it. The only way in which he can
attain to righteousness is through faith; BY FAITH HE CAN
BRING TO GOD THE MERITS OF CHRIST, and the Lord places
the obedience of His Son to the sinner's account. Christ's
righteousness is accepted in place of man's failure, and God
receives, pardons, justifies, the repentant, believing soul,
treats him as though he were righteous, and loves him as He
loves His Son. THIS IS HOW FAITH IS ACCOUNTED RIGHTEOUSNESS,
and the pardoned soul goes on FROM GRACE TO GRACE, from light
to a greater light. He can say with rejoicing,'Not by works of
righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He
saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy
Ghost, which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our
Saviour; that being justified by grace, we should be made heirs
according to the hope of eternal life." (Titus 3:5-7). Faith & Works,
101.

This is, again, pure Adventist teaching.

Notice that all these things are said to happen when by faith we bring
to God the MERITS of Christ!

"The matter of salvation is just as simple as ABC." Faith & Works, 64.

This is our life business: to bring to God the merits of Christ and the
Lord, through the endowment of the Holy Spirit, fulfills every jot and
tittle of what the law demands of us. (Phil.2:13; Phil.3:9)

This is righteousness by faith according to God's own idea of it.
In it there is not one thread of human devising.

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[rainbowinthesky]

"Seek ye first the kingdom of God..." Matt.6:33

"Unto you it is given to understand the mystery of
the Kingdom of God." Luke 8:10.

"The kingdom of God is at hand." Mark 1:15.

"The kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:21.

"The kingdom of God is righteousness and peace and
joy in the Holy Spirit." Romans 14:17.

The kingdom of God here and now is the kingdom of
grace. (Acts 20:24-25) When Jesus comes again we
shall enter into the kingdom of glory.

So what is the kingdom of God within you? Righteousness
and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

And how is this kingdom of God in the form of grace, and
the Holy Spirit is the grace of God, obtained? Through the
faith that lays right hold upon the merits of the blood of a
crucified and risen Saviour. (Rom.3:25)

This faith that lays right hold upon the merits of the blood
of Christ is the faith that works by love (Gal.5;6) for it is
this faith that brings the Holy Spirit into our hearts and the
love of God is shed abroad in our hearts. (Rom.5:5) And
"Love is the fulfillment of the law." Rom.13:10)

This faith is beautifully expressed in the words of God's
humble servant:

"Looking unto Jesus and trusting in His merits, we
appropriate the blessings of light and peace and joy
in the Holy Spirit." Testimonies, vol.5, 744.

Through faith in the merits of the spotless Lamb of God
it is the good pleasure of the Father to give us the
kingdom, the kingdom of God in the form of grace for
now and soon, if we remain faithful unto the end, we
shall enter the kingdom of glory.

Thus we read: "The only faith that will benefit us is that
which embraces Him as a personal Saviour: which
appropriates His merits to ourselves." Desire of Ages,
347.

This is the faith that we must exercise daily in order to
become vessels fit for the Master's use and be among the
wise virgins to meet Him at His coming.

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[rainbowinthesky]

In the same line of thinking, I would like to share parts of a
discussion I have had yesterday on another forum on this
very subject.
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Ernie Knoll claims to have had visions and dreams
James Tierney claims to have had visions and dreams
Shubee claims to have had visions and dreams

Yet the very light, the most precious message the Lord ever sent
to us through His chosen servants you do not teach. Yet Mrs.
White stated that this message is the interest that will prevail
and the subject that will swallow up every other.

That message, in a nutshell, is this:

"How long will you hate and despise the messengers of God's
righteousnesss? The Lord has given them His message. They
bear the Word of the Lord: There is salvation for you but only
through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy Spirit
has been offered to you again and again." Testimonies to Ministers,
96-97.

This is that most precious message in a nutshell but there is a
wealth of information about this very message in her writings and
yet, neither Ernie nor James nor Shubee teach this message.

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[rainbowinthesky]

When will you start to make the Bible your food, your meat
and your drink?

shubee
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"How long will you hate and despise the messengers of God's
righteousnesss? The Lord has given them His message. They
bear the Word of the Lord: There is salvation for you but only
through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy Spirit
has been offered to you again and again." Testimonies to
Ministers, 96-97.

Now, by comparing statement with statement this message will
be explained.

Why is it that there is salvation for us but only through the MERITS
of Jesus Christ? Why is it that it is only through the MERITS of Jesus
Christ that the grace of the Holy Spirit is offered to us again and again?

Because,

"The merits of Christ's sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father
in our behalf." Steps to Christ, 36.

"Believe it because it is the truth, because God says it, and lay hold upon
the MERITS of the blood of a crucified and risen Saviour." Faith & Works, 76.

See how the testimonies explain themselves. And they show how simple
the matter of salvation is.

"The matter of salvation is just as simple as ABC. But we don't understand
it." Idem, 64.

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[rainbowinthesky]

If you will lay sister White aside, then don't u ever quote from
her again, especially if one has no clue as to what the 1888
message was.

We have just read that this message is the Word of God to us:

"There is salvation for you but ONLY through the MERITS of
Jesus Christ."

Reader, don't let anyone tell you that this is not the Bible truth.
The very prophet that Schubee likes to quote when it suits his
purposes clearly tells us that this message is the Word of the
Lord to us.

"They bear the Word of the Lord: There is salvation for you but
only through the merits of Jesus Christ." T.M.97.

No Holy Spirit for us unless we receive and believe this simple
message implicitly and act upon it.

The merits of Jesus are sufficient to plead before the Father in
our behalf in order to receive the blessings of the covenant of
grace.

"Looking unto Jesus and trusting in His merits, we appropriate
the blessings of light and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
Testimonies, Vol.5, 744.

This is the message which is appropriate for this time and
which is to be received, believed, and acted upon.

And here is why:

Anymore than we can explain the movements of the wind or
the works of the Holy Spirit upon the human heart

"We cannot explain this faith that lays right hold upon the MERITS
of the blood of a crucified and risen Saviour to BRING Christ's
righteousness into your life. Clothed with the righteousness of
Christ and not your own righteousness you will not depend upon
what you can do or what you will do," for "Christ's righteousness
accomplishes everything," as it is "made manifest in obedience to
all the commandments of God." Faith & Works,65,66,27; Testimonies
to Ministers, 92.

As you can see clearly this is the third angel's message in clear,
distinct lines. But in a large degree this message has been kept
away from us and from the world.

It is time for it to be proclaimed again with freshness and power
and in demonstration of the Spirit and power of God.

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[rainbowinthesky]

There is no message more precious than this simple message.
The enemy will do anything and everything he can to intercept
the precious light coming directly from the Throne. We are to be
weary of those who make high claims of having received visions
and dreams especially if they will not receive this message like little
children but instead attempt to make it of none effect.

Here is that message again from another source.

Do not forget that it is by comparing statement with statement
that this message is to be explained to us.

"The testimonies themselves will be the key that will explain the
messages given, as Scripture is explained by Scripture." 1 S.M.42.

"You want to be like little children, hanging upon the MERITS of a
crucified and risen Saviour. THEN you will be FORTIFIED. How? The
angels of God will be around you as a wall of fire. The righteousness
of Christ goes before you and the glory of God is your rearward. God
sanctify our tongues, our thoughts, our minds, that we may dwell
upon heavenly themes, and that we may impart that knowledge to
others." MS 9, 1891.

Notice how it says that this is the knowledge that God's messengers
are to be imparted to others.

We are to invite the people, especially those who are hungering and
thirsting for salvation, to hang their helpless souls upon the MERITS
of a crucified and risen Saviour. We are to tell them that this is their
life business. That this is the only way they can be fortified. That
this is the only way they can receive the righteousness of Christ
which accomplishes everything for only the righteousness of Christ
can fill up the measure of the law's demand.

We are to tell this to all people for the merits of Christ alone avail
with God.

This is the third angel's message in verity.

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[rainbowinthesky]

I only hate and despise parrots that think that they
understand the gospel but can't defend 1844 and the
IJ and who praise Saint Ellen incessantly but don't obey
her advice on developing their own understanding from
Scripture.

shubee
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In my previous post I stated that we are to tell the people
that this is their life business: to look to Jesus and accept
His merits which it is their privilege to claim.

Here is the proof that this is exactly the Word of the Lord
to all, especially those who are ready to see and understand:

"Unless he makes it his life business to BEHOLD the uplifted
Saviour and to ACCEPT the MERITS which it is his PRIVILEGE
to CLAIM, the sinner can no more be saved than Peter could
walk upon the water unless he kept his eyes fixed steadily
upon Jesus." Testimonies to Ministers, 93.

Notice how simple and clear this message is and yet it is the
most precious message that God ever sent to His professed
people and that has been resisted and ever since it was resisted
it has been kept away from us and from the world in a large degree.

Being what it is, the most precious message ever sent to us from
Heaven, it is no surprise that this is the very message that the
enemy is fighting against all the time:

"When light begins to shine forth to make clear the plan of salvation,
the enemy works will all diligence that the light may be shut away
from the hearts of men." Review & Herald, Sept.3, 1889.

Notice the year these words were written: 1889, shortly after the
proclamation of that message at the Minneapolis meeting in 1888.

And if the above is not convincing enough as far as saying how the
enemy hates this message, may be the following will:

"Satan is working will all his hellish power to quench that light which
should burn brightly in the soul and shine forth in good works. HE IS
WORKING AGAINST THIS ALL THE TIME. Satan will work to quench
the light God has for every soul, by casting his shadow across the
pathway to intercept every ray of heavenly light. He knows that his
time is short." Manuscript 140, 1901.

He is working against this message all the time and "With all possible
deception he will manifest his power, calling to his aid all the fallen
angels of his realm" to intercept this most precious light. The Great
Controversy, 398.

So, reader, whoever you are, beware of those who would belittle
this most precious message sent to us from Heaven.

If this light is resisted again as it was between 1888 and 1903,
probation will close for the church and the bearers of this message
will be forced to turn to another class and it will swell into the loud
cry to the world and when the mission of the Gospel is completed the
judgment will accomplish the final separation between the wise and the
foolish and their destiny will be forever fixed.

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[rainbowinthesky]

And, dear reader, please do not believe these subtle
suggestions that this message of the merits and
righteousness of Christ and the teaching of the
sanctuary in regard to the Investigative Judgment
are not connected for not one of us can receive
the preparation to pass the scrutiny of the judgment
of the living at the end of the loud cry unless we make
it our life business to come to God just as we are, sinful,
helpless, dependent, trusting wholly in the merits of a
crucified and risen Saviour.

We must not forget that this is the only way the sinner
can be saved, that is, the only way he can attain to
righteousness, to obedience to the law and therefore
the only way he can pass the investigative judgment
of the living at the end of the loud cry.

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[rainbowinthesky]

There is the constant claim that this message from
the Testimonies is not the Word of God. All we need
to do is to memorize this statement:

"How long will you hate and despise the messengers of
God's righteousness? God has given them His message.
They bear the Word of the Lord: There is salvation for you
but only through the merits of Jesus Christ. The grace of the
Holy Spirit has been offered to you again and again." T.M.96-97.

It is the Word of the Lord and if accepted and believed and acted
upon it brings the rightousness of Christ into the life through the
grace of the Holy Spirit and the righteousness of Christ accomplishes
everything as it is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments
of God.

Reader, this is the third angel's message: the faith which comes from
Jesus, the faith which lays right hold upon the merits of His infinite
sacrifice, to bring His righteousness into the life and which is made
manifest in obedience to the commandments of God.

"Here are they who have the faith of Jesus and who keep the
commandments of God." Rev.14:12.

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[rainbowinthesky]

It is also claimed that we must understand this message
from Scripture. It is the message of the Scripture if we
are willing to see and understand. When the apostle Paul
in Romans 3 says that Christ is our propitiation (atonement)
through faith in His blood, he means faith in the merits of His
blood.

He is talking about the merits of the blood that is of value
beyond estimate because it was the life of God in His Son
that was poured out for us upon Calvary's cross.

For that very reason we read these words:

"Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you. Present your
case before Him pleading the merits of the blood shed for you
upon Calvary's cross." Faith & Works, 106.

This is how we draw nigh to God and He draws nigh to us.

Man-made religions focus on the merits of the creature in order
to gain the favour of God but the true religion, the only religion
of the Bible focusses on the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour
in order to gain Heaven.

"When the soul seeks to gain Heaven through the merits of Christ,
the soul makes progress." Faith & Works, 94.

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[rainbowinthesky]

We are under obligation to believe, especially that there
is an abundance of statements on this topic of the merits
and the grace of God, that we can compare statement
with statement to arrive at the truth sent to us from Heaven.

"As we acknowledge before God our appreciation of Christ's
merits, fragrance is given to our intercessions. As we approach
God through the virtue of the Redeemer's merits, Christ places
us close by His side, encircling us with His human arm, while
with His divine arm He grasps the throne of the Infinite. He puts
His merits in the censor in our hands in order to encourage our
petitions." E.G. White, Our Father Cares, 120.

I don't know about you, dear reader, but if this is not the
everlasting gospel beautifully expressed and with a simplicity
that even a child can understand, than I don't know how it
could be made more beautiful and simple.

What is there to exalt if it is not the merits of a crucified and
risen Saviour?

"Shall selfishness come into your hearts? And will those who set
not the Pattern before them extol your merits? You have none
except as they come through Jesus Christ." RH Sept,4, 1900.

These statements make it crystal clear that unless we appropriate
to ourselves the merits of Jesus Christ, we have no hope whatsoever.

"The only faith that will benefit us is that which embraces Him as a
personal Saviour: which appropriates His merits to ourselves." Desire
of Ages, 347.

These statements are food for thought. We cannot afford to brush
them aside as unworthy of our attention. They are rays of light from
the Throne of God.

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[rainbowinthesky]

"There is salvation for you but only through the
MERITS of Jesus Christ. The grace of the Holy
Spirit has been offered to you again and again."
T.M.97.

The above statement and every other statement
I have quoted in the last two pages on this subject
of the merits and grace of God do not constitute
Ellen G. White's private opinion. They are the
oracles of God spelling out for us, in clear, distinct
lines, the third angel's message. This is clearly
shown from Testimonies to Ministers, 92,93.

It is the Lord's message to His professed people, the
very light that was resisted over a century ago.

And now the Lord is allowing His light to shine upon
His professed people one more time.

If Mrs. White was here today she would repeat to us
the same warning the Lord sent over a hundred years
ago:

"What is the message to be given at this time? It is the
third angel's message. But that light which is to fill the
whole earth with its glory has been despised by some
who claim to believe present truth. Be careful how you
treat it. Take off the shoes from off your feet, for you are
on holy ground. Beware how you indulge the attributes of
Satan, and pour contempt upon the manifestations of the
Holy Spirit. I know not but some have even now gone too
far to return and to repent." T.M.89-90.

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[rainbowinthesky]

Again, let us look at pages 92 and 93 of the book
Testimonies to Ministers where the third angel's
message is clearly presented to us by the pen of
inspiration:

"Now it has been Satan's determined purpose to eclipse
the view of Jesus and lead men to look to man, and trust
in man, and be educated to expect help from man. For
years the church has been looking to man and expecting
much from man, but not looking to Jesus, in whom our
hopes of eternal life are centered. Therefore, God gave
to His servants a testimony that presented the truth as
it is in Jesus, which is the third angel's message in clear,
distinct lines." p.93.

This message is the 1888 message.

On page 92 we read that this message "invited the people
to receive the righteousness of Christ which is made manifest
in obedience to all the commandments of God. Many had lost
sight of Jesus and they needed to have their eyes directed to
Jesus, to His divine Person, TO HIS MERITS, and to His
changeless LOVE for the human family."

And then, a few lines down, we read, "This is the message that
God commanded to be given to the world. It is THE THIRD ANGEL'S
MESAGE, which is to be proclaimed with a loud voice and attended
with the outpouring of His Spirit in large measure."

On the same page, we read:

"The efficacy of the BLOOD of Christ was to be presented to the
people with freshness and power, that their faith might lay hold
upon ITS MERITS."

There is no way around this message which is from heaven. If we
resist it again as it was in 1888 we will be set aside as a people
and the message will be proclaimed to another class.

We are to look to Jesus instead of to man. We are not to expect
help from man. We are to Look to Jesus and by faith lay hold upon
the MERITS of His shed BLOOD and His righteousness will be
imparted to us and it will be made manifest in obedience to all
the commandments of God.

This is the faith which was once delivered to the saints, the most
holy faith which works by love to purify the soul. And that is why Mrs.
White stated that its fruit is unto holiness.

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[rainbowinthesky]

Yes, unfortunetally many here are stuck in the past
and don't accept where God is trying to lead His
people...

MGM
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Some may be stuck in the past for the wrong reasons.
Others are revisiting the past for the simple reason that
they believe the Word of God which says, "There is nothing
new under the sun. That which has been will be again."
Ecc.1:8.

"We have nothing to fear for the future except as we shall
forget the way the Lord had led us." Testimonies to Ministers,
p.31.

If there was a time in our past we needed to revisit it is the
time when the Lord was leading. That time was the 1844 era
and between 1888 and 1901. We are told that if the message
He sent to us then had been received, believed, and acted upon,
the work would have been completed and Jesus would have
returned.

As a people we have made it abundantly clear that we have
forgotten the way He was leading then.

We read, "The prejudices and opinions that prevailed at Minneapolis
are not dead by any means; the seeds sown there are ready to
spring into life and bear a like harvest." T.M.467.

We can expect that as the Lord is again allowing His light to shine
upon the people, prejudices and opinions will again raise their ugly
heads.

In 1901 the Lord sent this testimony:

"We may have to remain in this world because of insubordination
many more years as did the children of Israel." Evangelism, p.696.

We are still here because we love our own way and forsake the
way of the Lord:

"The true religion, the only religion of the Bible, that teaches
forgiveness only through the MERITS of a crucified and risen
Saviour, that advocates righteousness by the faith of the Son
of God, has been slighted, spoken against, ridiculed, and rejected.
It has been denounced as leading to enthusiasm and fanaticism."
Testimonies to Ministers,468.

The above was written in the context of the 1888 message, the
third angel's message which God had commanded to be given to
the world and attended with the outpouring of His Spirit in large
measure.(T.M.92)

Again the message in a nutshell from a different point of view:

"When we trust God fully, when we rely upon the MERITS of Jesus
as a sin-pardoning Saviour, we shall receive all the help that we
can desire." Patriarchs & Prophets, 431.

This says it all if we are willing to see and understand.

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[rainbowinthesky]

sky wrote:

Some may be stuck in the past for the wrong reasons. Others
are revisiting the past for the simple reason that they believe
the Word of God which says, "There is nothing new under the
sun. That which has been will be again." Ecc.1:9.
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If you truly believe there is nothing new under the sun... Why
do you mainly quote EGW instead of the Bible?

MGM
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This passage of Scripture, Ecc.1:9, is not about new light vs old
light but about repeating history as far as the rejection of light is
concerned.
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And to set the record straight, I said nothing about discarding old
light or old foundations...

MGM
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Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I did not say you had.
Look, I was not attacking you at all. I was simply commenting on
that aspect of being stuck in the past.

sky
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Only that by not moving forward in our experience we deny the
power of God in our present walk! We should always build on what
God has revealed in the past, but many here have the partial house
and are content to stop building! It's pouring down rain and the roof
is unfinished but "we have EGW and all is well!" Once again why has
God not poured out His spirit if we have our SDA house in order? I
think the answer is fairly simple... our house is not complete!

MGM
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I agree with you that our house is not in order, otherwise the work
would have been finished a long time ago. Yes we should build upon
what God has revealed in the past. Problem is many of us have not
studied the writings enough to know what He has revealed in the past.

Personally, the reason why I quote profusely from her writings concerning
the merits and righteousness of Christ is because in the Testimonies we
are told that this is the interest that will prevail and the subject that will
swallow up every other before it is all said and done.

But there is much more light on the Word of God that is to be discovered
from the writings of Ellen G. White.

For example just as there is not one in one hundred who understands for
himself the Bible truth on this subject that is so necessary to our present
and eternal welfare, there is not one in one hundred who understands for
himself the relation between nature and nature's God.

And there is not one in one hundred who understands for himself the
principles of God's dealing with man as to whether God stands toward
the sinner as an executioner of the sentence against transgression or not.

And I do believe that there is not one in one hundred who understands for
himself what it means to eat Christ's flesh and blood in regard to our physical
nature and in regard to our spiritual nature.

These are important subjects to understand and yet when do we hear about
them? And yet there is an abundance of light in the writings of Ellen White on
all these subjects. And the Lord gave William Miller a dream in which he was
made to understand that the Lord would one day bring all these truths to light,
truths that have been lost sight of, and cause them to shine like never before.

That time has come.

sky

 

[rainbowinthesky]

And there are things about last day events that have
been revealed to us in her writings but that not one in
one hundred understands for himself.

My experience on adventist forums tells me that there is
not one in one hundred who understands for himself the
sealing work of the people of God, that there are two seals,
the first which is a settling into the truth both intellectually
and spiritually so they cannot be moved and the second and
final seal which is to be had upon passing the scrutiny of the
judgment of the living at the end of the loud cry. How many of
us understand what that final seal is?

And I do believe that there is not one in one hundred who
understands for himself that the two promises made to
Philadelphia are to be fulfilled after the close of probation
at the time of the fifth plague. And how many of us
understand that the message to the Sardis church also
applied to the Seventh-day Adventist church in 1903 and
still does?

Also, I do believe that there is not one in one hundred who
understands for himself what is meant by the drying up of the
River Euphrates at the time of the sixth plague.

And I do believe that there is not one in one hundred who
understands for himself that the 144,000 will not exist as a
company of people until after the great final test because
in order to become a member of that illustrious company of
people, one must successfully pass the great final test just
before the close of probation at the end of the loud cry.

And I also believe that there is not one in one hundred who
understands for himself the timing of the the judgment of the
living, that it will not begin until the loud cry is finished when
the mission of the Gospel is completed, and not before the loud
cry as some believe and teach.

There is much more that we need to understand in regard to
last day events.

sky