The idea of God seems totally inconceivable...

[2consider]

And that is evidence of God's existence. To many people God seems inconceivable, if God is inconceivable, then we likely didn't make him up.

One of St. Thomas Aquinas' arguments was that, since god has attributes that are foreign to us, we wouldn't have just conceived god from our imagination.

Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

 

[Albion]

And that is evidence of God's existence. To many people God seems inconceivable, if God is inconceivable, then we likely didn't make him up.
One of St. Thomas Aquinas' arguments was that, since god has attributes that are foreign to us, we wouldn't have just conceived god from our imagination.

Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

Aquinas had other "proofs" of God that no one today would be persuaded by, so I'd think we ought to be careful about accepting this one, too.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

No. If Yahweh is inconceivable, all references to him are meaningless, including 'Yahweh exists'. If you have no coherent concept of what it is you're even referring to, you are speaking gibberish.

You may as well be asking 'Is the fact that Msh(!*#^$nsu2x is inconceivable be proof that there is a Msh(!*#^$nsu2x?'

 

[durangodawood]

....Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

Perhaps, if every inconceivable thing exists. But I dont think they necessarily do.

 

[Chriliman]

If anything, it's proof that God is possible and therefore it's rational to believe in the possibility of God at some point in any individual's life.

This shows that it's irrational to believe God is impossible before you've rationally believed God is possible. IOW, rational belief in the possibility of God must come before the irrational belief that God is impossible.

Interestingly, this reasoning and logic only makes sense in a reality where God exists. If God does not exist in this reality then no one in this reality would know of God because the concept would be meaningless and nonsensical, but clearly God has immeasurable meaning in this reality.

This means that every person has or will at some point in their life rationally believe God is possible. So all atheists have, at some point, rationally believed God is possible, but have chosen to ignore this possibility in favor of the possibly that God does not exist, which in this reality, a non-existent God does not make sense because of the reasoning and logic presented above.

It's true that it is rational to believe in the possibility of God. Atheists have rationally believed in the possibility of God, but they choose to ignore the possibility, which is what prevents them from knowing God is real.

They will claim that they don't know God is possible, which is a completely false statement, of course God is possible and if we all stop and think for second then we realize we all know God is possible. You can deny this all you want, but it won't change the fact that any person who thinks about God, knows God is possible.

 

[pgp_protector]

Thread demands it.

 

[Goonie]

Thread demands it.

You got there first!

 

[dysert]

And that is evidence of God's existence. To many people God seems inconceivable, if God is inconceivable, then we likely didn't make him up.

One of St. Thomas Aquinas' arguments was that, since god has attributes that are foreign to us, we wouldn't have just conceived god from our imagination.

Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

Actually, I don't find it inconceivable at all. Regardless, isn't this a form of an ontological argument (which many would find fallacious)?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Naturally I would agree with the isdea that God is based on the (mis)use of our capacity for "theory of mind". The idea is we are social creatures, and we tend to inadvertantly see intelligence and agencey wherever we look, in natural events too. The thunderstorm, the plague, the dove on the branch etc.

 

[Ana the Ist]

And that is evidence of God's existence. To many people God seems inconceivable, if God is inconceivable, then we likely didn't make him up.

One of St. Thomas Aquinas' arguments was that, since god has attributes that are foreign to us, we wouldn't have just conceived god from our imagination.

Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

I see it as evidence that he doesn't exist. The fact that he's often described with nonsensical/meaningless terms seems to bolster my disbelief.

It's as if there's a fear of describing him rationally...because once you do it becomes easier to disprove him.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Interestingly, this reasoning and logic only makes sense in a reality where God exists.

I find it more interesting that your "reasoning" and "logic" only seem to make sense to you.

 

[Davian]

And that is evidence of God's existence. To many people God seems inconceivable, if God is inconceivable, then we likely didn't make him up.

One of St. Thomas Aquinas' arguments was that, since god has attributes that are foreign to us, we wouldn't have just conceived god from our imagination.

Is the fact that God is inconceivable be proof that there is a god?

How would you differentiate between the inconceivable and the non-existent?

 

[Davian]

If anything, it's proof that God is possible and therefore it's rational to believe in the possibility of God at some point in any individual's life.

This shows that it's irrational to believe God is impossible before you've rationally believed God is possible. IOW, rational belief in the possibility of God must come before the irrational belief that God is impossible.

Which version of "God" do you believe to be possible? Is that the "God" that allegedly walked and talked in a garden that has no evidence of having existed, poofed people and animals into existence, and later, in a manner contrary to the modern understanding of genetics, populated the planet with a tiny group of individuals and animals that survived a global flood in an unbuildable boat, a flood that killed the dinosaurs in a manner that only *appears* to be 65 million years ago, because the Earth is really only somehow 6000 years old, yet remains, by every objective measure to date indistinguishable from nothing?

Interestingly, this reasoning and logic only makes sense in a reality where God exists. If God does not exist in this reality then no one in this reality would know of God because the concept would be meaningless and nonsensical, but clearly God has immeasurable meaning in this reality.

Immeasurable, as in zero. Got it.

This means that every person has or will at some point in their life rationally believe God is possible. So all atheists have, at some point, rationally believed God is possible, but <snip>

Mind reading attempt fail. Did I not send you out to get fresh batteries for that thing?

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• Davian
• Jul 30, 2015

 

[SkyWriting]

And that is evidence of God's existence. To many people God seems inconceivable, if God is inconceivable, then we likely didn't make him up.

The logic has some merit.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

I never got into but so much of St. Aquinas, but..
It all ties further into predestination, and the force which has created and driven the universe from the start to now to cause people to believe in God- and others to not.
It's called 'invincible ignorance', and is put in place to secure that the inconceivable remains true and yet the same. This lays out the foundation for faith that, without, could give no more improvement to the souls of men. Or, the purpose of our continued occupation on Earth in the first place.

 

[SteveB28]

The logic has some merit.

The 'logic' has much desperation in it!

If I think of something highly unlikely, it increases the likelihood that it exists!?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Santa is inconceivable. As are fairies and leprechauns.

 

[Ana the Ist]

It's inconceivable that I'm always correct...so it's probably true that I'm always correct.

I win.

 

[SkyWriting]

The 'logic' has much desperation in it!

If I think of something highly unlikely, it increases the likelihood that it exists!?

It stands to reason that spiritual entities can't be captured on film or your iphone.

 

[durangodawood]

It's inconceivable that I'm always correct...so it's probably true that I'm always correct.

I win.

Not inconceivable. Merely wrong.