The ice age and the flood

[Keachian]

By the way, you in a cult?

He's the only one in it so how much of a cult it is is interesting, he has a website if you want to join up

The Darwinian 21st Century Freudian-Spirit Bible

 

[dad]

1) So do I take the words as they are written.
We read that at the time of Noah, God was going to make all men extinct, except our kind, the ancestors of Ham, Japhet, and Shem.

That did happen as we now know.
And the three racoal stocks were evidenced as our roots, too, starting 40 thousand years ago.

Guess I'll have to roll up my sleeves and talk turkey with you. Let's test your knowledge of science then. Show us the basis for claiming the 40,000 years?

So what I see is that God meant that by now, modern Homo sapiens would have flooded to the mountain tops.

Uses google earth to look at peaks--- hmm don't seem flooded with much else than ice. So is that frozen people?

3) Certainly.
Metaphor is one of the tools of the literary arts by which a writer hopes to communicate an idea.
In this case, the idea was preposturous before our Age, that a mass extinction of those species from which we evolved was coming.

Still seems somewhat bizarre, actually.

The writers had to give us hints so we could piece the meaning of the Noah story together in this age, but they could not be more direct than by using metphors and similes.

So you imagine hints that totally render the actual story null and void. OK. Here is a hint for you, God is not nuts.

The readers previous to our age would never have believe the Truth directly expressed.

So it was couched in a flood story. Therefore there was no actual flood. Got you. Ever consider hooking up with a real theory?

 

[cupid dave]

Guess I'll have to roll up my sleeves and talk turkey with you. Let's test your knowledge of science then. Show us the basis for claiming the 40,000 years??

Check out US News last Feb which did an article on "Darwin, new insights into how evolution happens."

The report concerned recent genetic evidence that all men living today are related to just one man who lived @40,000 years ago.

That woud be Noah since we are all also one of the three Racial Stocks of Modern Homo sapiens.

That is way too specific to have been coincidental.

 

[cupid dave]

Surly you mean speculation? a theory needs more than just speculation.

Yes.
The "Out-of-Africa" HYPOTHESIS is really just an educated speculation similar to Oscam's Razor.
What it does is link a series of facts together in a way that seems reasonable.


NOTE:
www. anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm
The replacement model of Christopher Stringer and Peter Andrews (paleontologists):

This hypothesis is also referred to as the "out of Africa", "Noah's ark," and "African replacement" model.

All other lines of humans that had descended from Homo erectus presumably became extinct.Ê From this view, the regional anatomical differences that we see among humans today are recent developments--<b>evolving mostly in the last 40,000 years.</b>




What the "out-of-Africa speculation of paleontoloists needed was exactly some concrete evidence to support their hypothesis.
This genetic study does exactly that.

They now have genetic evidence going back to 40,000 years ago, which links a Noah Type singular father to the three racial stocks that are evidenced today as the origin of our now more complicated racial diversity.

 

[AV1611VET]

The report concerned recent genetic evidence that all men living today are related to just one man who lived @40,000 years ago.

40,000 years ago.

Cool.

They certainly didn't use the Primate of All Ireland* to arrive at that figure, did they?

* James Ussher

 

[cupid dave]

He's the only one in it so how much of a cult it is is interesting, he has a website if you want to join up

The Darwinian 21st Century Freudian-Spirit Bible

You confuse religion with theology.

Theology was what Jesus did.
Religion followed thereafter.

Elijah essential taught theology.
The religion of the Jews opposed him.

Jesus explained the Old Testament to people in 32AD, and got their attention with the miracles and crucifixion.
That's theology.
The religion of the Jews opposed him.

Mohammed wrote his book report on scripture called The Koran.
The religion of the Jews and the Christians opposed him.

Smith wrote his BoM.
The religion of the Jews and the Christians opposed him.


Theology is the study of scripture and the publication of a book report on it.
That is all I am doing.
Reporting my findings.

Ministers who find these insight to make sense will go to their Pulpits to argue the case as the best, scientifically supported way to understand scripture.
They will build a congregation that is small and therefroe a cult.
As small cults form, and ministers are evermore successful in building a following, a religion based on this theology will come into being.

What Dr Kofh has done for us is create a site which uses the Amplified Bible type of bracketing directly into the passages these ideas I have been posting here.
This method allows potential ministers to get the message and see that Sola Scripture, what is stated can be verified in the Bible.

 

[cupid dave]

40,000 years ago.

Cool.

They certainly didn't use the Primate of All Ireland* to arrive at that figure, did they?

* James Ussher

LOL

1) Ussher assumed thatthe first seven "days" were Solar Time 24 hour durations instead of God's days.

He must not have read Gen 1:14, where the 24 hour day first comes into existence.



2) Check out the google on Y-Adam, which is a misnomer because the genetics would refer to a Noah if the scientists had had any knowledge of the Bible.

Then there is this scientific report:

Genetic distance estimates suggest that among the three major races of man the first divergence occurred about 120,000 years ago between Negroid and a group of Caucasoid and Mongoloid...

(See Gen 5:321 which reports Noah was 500 years old when these racial stocks appeared. That was 100,000 years before the start of thegreat flood Out of Africa)


.... and then the latter group split into Caucasoid and Mongoloid around 60,000 years ago.

(That would be just prior to the flood Out of Africa when Noah was 600 years old).

It is also shown that the genetic identity between man and chimpanzee corresponds to a divergence time of 4–6 million years if the assumption of constant rate of amino acid substitution is correct.

 

[AV1611VET]

2) Check out the google on Y-Adam, which is a misnomer because the genetics would refer to a Noah if the scientists had had any knowledge of the Bible.

Sorry, cupid, I didn't go to Harharvard and study paleoanthropology; and I didn't go to Yale and study lockmaking.

Science is like a kite to me -- over my head, hanging by a string, and works best when it's blowing.

 

[CabVet]

Sorry, cupid, I didn't go to Harharvard and study paleoanthropology; and I didn't go to Yale and study lockmaking.

Science is like a kite to me -- over my head, hanging by a string, and works best when it's blowing.

That shouldn't be an excuse, Skywriting keeps saying that even first grade kids can "do" science and no qualification is necessary to work in the field and teach science.

 

[dad]

Surly you mean speculation? a theory needs more than just speculation.

That's an urban legend. When we look at the root assumptions in stellar and human evolution theories for example, we find that it is less than even informed speculation.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't suppose it's his fault if he knows nothing about science, I have heard that some parents deliberately keep their children away from science for some reason.

QV please:

That's my cue to leave then --- my brain doesn't function very well on science ---

(I tripped over a science book when I was a kid, and fell down three flights of stairs --- I've hated science ever since.)

 

[dad]

Check out US News last Feb which did an article on "Darwin, new insights into how evolution happens."

The report concerned recent genetic evidence that all men living today are related to just one man who lived @40,000 years ago.

That woud be Noah since we are all also one of the three Racial Stocks of Modern Homo sapiens.

That is way too specific to have been coincidental.

Rather than a poster of a magazine, specific quotes might have been nice. Of course we are related to men who lived after the flood!! The issue is, on what basis do you claim the 40,000 imaginary years?

Here's the thing, evolving used to be rapid and different from what we see in the present, under our present state laws. Therefore unless you first, yes first prove that this state existed you may not use it to mentally propel you into deep imaginary time.

 

[dad]

LOL

1) Ussher assumed thatthe first seven "days" were Solar Time 24 hour durations instead of God's days.

Jesus seems to have assumed that 3 days were close to solar days as well. Why might that be do you think? Jonah also.

 

[dad]

You do realise that the out of africa events happened at a different time to the K-T boundary event right? You can't really have both.

I assume it was after!? No problem whatsoever. When else would we see people or apes moving around down in the newly separated Africa?

 

[CabVet]

That's an urban legend. When we look at the root assumptions in stellar and human evolution theories for example, we find that it is less than even informed speculation.

Care to mention one?

 

[dad]

He's the only one in it so how much of a cult it is is interesting, he has a website if you want to join up

The Darwinian 21st Century Freudian-Spirit Bible

I never got to the mother love part, but did take a quick look. I saw how the rivers of Eden were claimed to be parts of the human brain.

Maybe his mom should have never let him watch the 'Incredible Machine'

 

[dad]

Care to mention one?

"
Stellar evolution is the process by which a star undergoes a sequence of radical changes during its lifetime. Depending on the mass of the star, this lifetime ranges from only a few million years for the most massive to trillions of years for the least massive, which is considerably longer than the age of the universe.
All stars are born from collapsing clouds of gas and dust, often called nebulae or molecular clouds. Nuclear fusion powers a star for most of its life. Stars similar to our Sun gradually grow in size until they reach a red giant phase, after which the core collapses into a dense white dwarf and the outer layers are expelled as a planetary nebula. Larger stars can explode in a supernova as their cores collapse into an extremely dense neutron star or black hole. It is not clear how red dwarfs die because of their extremely long life spans, but they probably experience a gradual death in which their outer layers are expelled over time.
Stellar evolution is not studied by observing the life of a single star, as most stellar changes occur too slowly to be detected, even over many centuries. Instead, astrophysicists come to understand how stars evolve by observing numerous stars at various points in their lifetime, and by simulating stellar structure using computer models."


Stellar evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Need more?

 

[CabVet]

"
Stellar evolution is the process by which a star undergoes a sequence of radical changes during its lifetime. Depending on the mass of the star, this lifetime ranges from only a few million years for the most massive to trillions of years for the least massive, which is considerably longer than the age of the universe.
All stars are born from collapsing clouds of gas and dust, often called nebulae or molecular clouds. Nuclear fusion powers a star for most of its life. Stars similar to our Sun gradually grow in size until they reach a red giant phase, after which the core collapses into a dense white dwarf and the outer layers are expelled as a planetary nebula. Larger stars can explode in a supernova as their cores collapse into an extremely dense neutron star or black hole. It is not clear how red dwarfs die because of their extremely long life spans, but they probably experience a gradual death in which their outer layers are expelled over time.
Stellar evolution is not studied by observing the life of a single star, as most stellar changes occur too slowly to be detected, even over many centuries. Instead, astrophysicists come to understand how stars evolve by observing numerous stars at various points in their lifetime, and by simulating stellar structure using computer models."


Stellar evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Need more?

Yes, I need you to point out which assumption is faulty and why. We can't observed sub-atomic particles and gravity either, but we know they are there.

 

[Huram Abi]

What Dr Kofh has done for us is create a site which uses the Amplified Bible type of bracketing directly into the passages these ideas I have been posting here.
This method allows potential ministers to get the message and see that Sola Scripture, what is stated can be verified in the Bible.

You're not a doctor, just as you are not a publishing company, church, phycisist, sociologist, teacher and the other things you've claimed to be as kofh2u.

 

[Keachian]

You're not a doctor, just as you are not a publishing company, church, phycisist, sociologist, teacher and the other things you've claimed to be as kofh2u.

Probably the most important one is Christ "the Lion of Judah"