The ice age and the flood

[Keachian]

So the Prodigal Son is about people being created by a fattened calf?

Sure, why not it fits in with the rest of your theology doesn't it?[/sarcasm]

The parable of the prodigal sons is about our relationship with God both the sinners and the really uptight moralist religious, It is quite clear from a reading of it that Jesus is calling the Pharisees to repent their pride and follow him, likening them to the older brother. So uptight were they about their religious observance that they didn't realise that they were judging God for his acceptance and forgiveness of the tax collectors and harlots.

In the same way we see that Genesis 1-3 is about God creating the world as his temple to live in and abide in it, man's propensity to miss the point of what God is trying to achieve and the promise of a saviour to reconcile all of humanity to God.

 

[Greg1234]

and the intrinsic design of all creation.

this is the next logical step in the God of the Gaps theology you are expressing)

Hmm. So according to Christian Darwinism, creation is a God of the Gaps, rather than sustain bodies (man, bee, Earth, etc), God does not interfere, naturalistic science is to be exalted, religion is a placebo, and parables denote the inclusion of more physical elements?

 

[Greg1234]

The parable of the prodigal sons is about our relationship with God both the sinners and the really uptight moralist religious,

Why include God now? Are you implying that there is more spiritual activity after interpretation?

 

[Keachian]

Hmm. So according to Christian Darwinism, creation is a God of the Gaps, rather than sustain bodies (man, bee, Earth, etc),

according to my understanding of creationism and what I believed as a creationist yes it is very much a God of the Gaps theology and as such leads more into deism logically than it does theism, however I do not believe that my current theistic evolutionary structure is either deistic nor God of the Gaps.

God does not interfere, naturalistic science is to be exalted, religion is a placebo, and parables denote the inclusion of more physical elements?

Oh cool, I've become vocal enough about theistic evolution to be quote mined. You have truly shown the logical depravity of some creationists, thank you.

 

[Keachian]

Why include God now? Are you implying that there is more spiritual activity after interpretation?

Rephrase the question, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.

 

[Greg1234]

according to my understanding of creationism and what I believed as a creationist yes it is very much a God of the Gaps

So......gaps in what?

Oh cool, I've become vocal enough about theistic evolution to be quote mined. You have truly shown the logical depravity of some creationists, thank you.

Why no answer questions?

 

[Greg1234]

Rephrase the question, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.

Why is there more spiritual activity in your interpretation?

 

[Keachian]

Why is there more spiritual activity in your interpretation?

So you think the prodigal sons is a teaching about how a father should love his sons unconditionally or does your interpretation line up more with mine?

I think the message of what Jesus is saying is exceedingly clear

 

[Greg1234]

So you think the prodigal sons is a teaching about how a father should love his sons unconditionally or does your interpretation line up more with mine?

I think the message of what Jesus is saying is exceedingly clear

That fattened calves created man?

 

[Keachian]

So......gaps in what?




Why no answer questions?

Gaps in our understanding of the universe

Most of the questions miss the mark on what I originally said.

But to go through them anyway

Our God is a theistic God, that quote mine was one where I was comparing a statement to a deistic God, pointing out that it isn't what we should believe. Or at least that was the intention.

To exalt naturalistic science is to dethrone God and I'm not sure any Naturalist would exalt what they consider a tool to what their actual goal is, that is truth.

I was expressing what I've heard atheists talk about with religion, I'd agree with them that religion is a placebo, but I'd also say that in quite a lot of cases it's a placebo in place of God as well as reality

 

[Keachian]

That fattened calves created man?

The parable of the two lost sons says nothing on creation

The parable of the Temple of Earth and The Fall of man on the other hand does.

 

[Greg1234]

The parable of the two lost sons says nothing on creation

The parable of the Temple of Earth and The Fall of man on the other hand does.

Ah. So the Produgal Son does not include the fall of man?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

I was expressing what I've heard atheists talk about with religion, I'd agree with them that religion is a placebo, but I'd also say that in quite a lot of cases it's a placebo in place of God as well as reality

I'm an atheist, but I could feel the sting of that innocent looking little comment hitting a few of our less rational religious folk here. Or perhaps it won't, I'm getting used to their enormous lack of self-awareness.

 

[Greg1234]

Gaps in our understanding of the universe

"Our" refers to whom?

 

[Keachian]

Ah. So the Produgal Son does not include the fall of man?

The Two Lost Sons has two ways in which man separates himself from God

 

[Greg1234]

I'm an atheist, but I could feel the sting of that innocent looking little comment hitting a few of our less rational religious folk here. Or perhaps it won't, I'm getting used to their enormous lack of self-awareness.

Oh stop it.

Let the man speak.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Oh stop it.

Let the man speak.

Case in point.

 

[Greg1234]

The Two Lost Sons has two ways in which man separates himself from God

And what happened when man separated himself from God in Genesis?

 

[Keachian]

I'm an atheist, but I could feel the sting of that innocent looking little comment hitting a few of our less rational religious folk here. Or perhaps it won't, I'm getting used to their enormous lack of self-awareness.

Well it's just as much as what Jesus said when we think of the parallels between the Pharisees and the elder brother in the Parable of the Two Lost Sons. They formulated what they needed to be right with God and found it incomprehensible that God would accept back the sinners, they were prideful just as the Elder brother was

 

[Keachian]

And what happened when man separated himself from God in Genesis?

What happens when anyone separates themselves from God, God grieves

This is the driving force of Grace, for God so loved the world that he reconciled it back to himself, not because we asked him to, not because we wanted him to, but rather in anticipation that all might come back to him