The Holy War

[keras]

That is what the resurrection is for. People die. Being speculative is making up ways people are changed without dying. Sin demands death. Satan is the one who demands dead bodies.

You seem to have gone off in a tangent. Sin and Death?

My point that fail to have refuted; is that the Church of all the faithful Christian peoples, is on earth during the Great Tribulation.
The only people resurrected when Jesus Returns, will be the trib martyrs. Rev 20:4

 

[Timtofly]

You seem to have gone off in a tangent. Sin and Death?

My point that fail to have refuted; is that the Church of all the faithful Christian peoples, is on earth during the Great Tribulation.
The only people resurrected when Jesus Returns, will be the trib martyrs. Rev 20:4

The purpose of the tribulation is the end of human kind in their fallen state. What you propose is that billions of sons of God in glorified bodies will flood the whole middle east. Where are all these living beings going to fit? They cannot die. Are they killing any one who comes too close to Jerusalem? Can those on the earth even see their glorified bodies? Can they be seen, or are those spiritually blind oblivious of the presence of the church? Paul says the rapture changes us to glorified bodies, restored sons of God. The full image, no longer spiritually dead, will be our condition. There is no resurrection in seal 5 and 6. We are given glorified bodies, because the church is complete. The church has been sealed and glorified. If not, then the 7th seal could not be opened.

 

[keras]

The purpose of the tribulation is the end of human kind in their fallen state. What you propose is that billions of sons of God in glorified bodies will flood the whole middle east. Where are all these living beings going to fit? They cannot die. Are they killing any one who comes too close to Jerusalem? Can those on the earth even see their glorified bodies? Can they be seen, or are those spiritually blind oblivious of the presence of the church? Paul says the rapture changes us to glorified bodies, restored sons of God. The full image, no longer spiritually dead, will be our condition. There is no resurrection in seal 5 and 6. We are given glorified bodies, because the church is complete. The church has been sealed and glorified. If not, then the 7th seal could not be opened.

Total wackadoodle!
The idea of 'glorified bodies' is just not in scripture. Only AFTER the Millennium, when the Book of life is opened, does those worthy receive immortality.

What I do promote, is the many prophesies that tell us how God's holy people; born again Christians, will migrate to and live in ALL of the holy land. I can post dozens of prophesies proving this.
They are seen there in Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7.
It is our great privilege and our destiny.

 

[Timtofly]

Total wackadoodle!
The idea of 'glorified bodies' is just not in scripture. Only AFTER the Millennium, when the Book of life is opened, does those worthy receive immortality.

What I do promote, is the many prophesies that tell us how God's holy people; born again Christians, will migrate to and live in ALL of the holy land. I can post dozens of prophesies proving this.
They are seen there in Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7.
It is our great privilege and our destiny.

You are not wrong about many saints going up into Jerusalem and living in the Holy Land. If you are a sheep and die after the 6th seal is opened, that is what will happen.

 

[keras]

You are not wrong about many saints going up into Jerusalem and living in the Holy Land. If you are a sheep and die after the 6th seal is opened, that is what will happen.

Dead? Not according to the prophesies.
The people who will occupy all of the holy Land soon after the Sixth Seal devastation has cleared and cleansed it, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, will be the faithful Christians, the Lord will protect them and guide them into their heritage.
Psalms 107

 

[Timtofly]

Dead? Not according to the prophesies.
The people who will occupy all of the holy Land soon after the Sixth Seal devastation has cleared and cleansed it, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, will be the faithful Christians, the Lord will protect them and guide them into their heritage.
Psalms 107

How does the body change without dying? It is appointed unto man once to die. How does one live forever without dying first? The corruption put on incorruption? Flesh and blood removed, and a new regenerated body given?

 

[keras]

How does the body change without dying? It is appointed unto man once to die. How does one live forever without dying first? The corruption put on incorruption? Flesh and blood removed, and a new regenerated body given?

ALL the dead must await the GWT Judgment; after the Millennium. The only exception will be the Trib martyrs, who will be brought back to life, but not to immortality as yet. They may die again, but their second death is not their end, as they and all whose names are Written in the Book of Life, will receive Eternal Life at the GWT. Revelation 20:4-5, 11-15