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The hardest thing to deal with when you are married to a bipolar spouse is there negative thinking cycle. I know i cant make my husband happy. But i do try yo do things that please him because isnt that what you are suppose to do if you are trying to honor your spouse. It is hard to keep donig these things if they keep being over looked. In his negative thinking he pionts out everything im not doing right. When there is a lot of things i am doing right and i am doing as much as i can handle at the moment because it is just as overwhelming to me too. When he acts like this it makes me feel like im not good enough. And when i voice my opion it is dismissed. Its like i have no voice. Trying to communicate and have a bipolar spouse see how the other person is feeling by his actions seems impossible. Its like they are not capable of doing so. But that does not lessen the hert of there spouse especially when there hert is seen as miner to there bipolars spouse's pain
 

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The hardest thing to deal with when you are married to a bipolar spouse is there negative thinking cycle. I know i cant make my husband happy. But i do try yo do things that please him because isnt that what you are suppose to do if you are trying to honor your spouse. It is hard to keep donig these things if they keep being over looked. In his negative thinking he pionts out everything im not doing right. When there is a lot of things i am doing right and i am doing as much as i can handle at the moment because it is just as overwhelming to me too. When he acts like this it makes me feel like im not good enough. And when i voice my opion it is dismissed. Its like i have no voice. Trying to communicate and have a bipolar spouse see how the other person is feeling by his actions seems impossible. Its like they are not capable of doing so. But that does not lessen the hert of there spouse especially when there hert is seen as miner to there bipolars spouse's pain
Sorry about the misspellings i am disnomia and i spell words so wrong that auto correct cant even correct it. Lol so please just deal with me on this
 
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No problem, dear sister; what you're saying is perfectly understandable, for me at least. :)

Welcome, by the way, and grace and peace to you from our Father and our Lord Jesus.

You're right that you can't make your husband happy. I would like to point out the converse as well -- that his acceptance and appreciation of your efforts are not necessary for you to be happy (though I understand that they would certainly help!).

The reason for this is that one's happiness does not depend on others; in fact, it cannot do so. And the reason for this is that the root of happiness is thanksgiving. This is important enough to say again: the root of happiness is thanksgiving.

I have not seen this explicitly stated in the Bible, but it is something I realized in the holy spirit not so long ago, and it is something that can be inferred from the numerous scriptures on thanks and thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is one of the key components of Philippians 4:6-7, for example.

It also just makes sense if one reflects upon it. All moments of happiness we can experience have something underlying them for which we are thankful. If we were not thankful, we would not be happy.

The reason that I mention all of this is because I feel your unhappiness rather deeply in your words, and I feel that it is because your husband is not appreciating you (which, I certainly agree, he should be doing, but he may not be capable of this during the down times). But just as you cannot make your husband happy, neither can he make you happy.

Being thankful before God for what he has given you -- even the trials and his discipline (James 1:2-4 and Hebrews 12:4-12) -- is a way for each of you individually to find happiness. Now, this may be easier said than done, but praying for wisdom (James 1:5) can show you how to begin this journey.

And it is a journey, because we have lots and lots of pain, resentment, and things both big and little that keep us from being thankful and thus rob us of happiness. Asking God to help identify each of these things -- the little ones as well as the big ones -- and surrender them into his hands is part of this journey. And the further you progress along this path, the easier it becomes.

It becomes possible to imagine a life of spontaneous thankfulness for the littlest of things (including your husband's appreciation when he is able to give it, which is certainly not a little thing but which may be shown in little things), and it is when we can do this that we find that our happiness gives birth to radiant joy.

My prayer is that God would write this into your heart so that you may take steps each day along this path, so that one day your joy may be complete. I also pray that your husband might find it within himself to focus on what he may be thankful for at all times, but especially when he is feeling down.

In Christ,
Daryl
 
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No problem, dear sister; what you're saying is perfectly understandable, for me at least. :)

Welcome, by the way, and grace and peace to you from our Father and our Lord Jesus.

You're right that you can't make your husband happy. I would like to point out the converse as well -- that his acceptance and appreciation of your efforts are not necessary for you to be happy (though I understand that they would certainly help!).

The reason for this is that one's happiness does not depend on others; in fact, it cannot do so. And the reason for this is that the root of happiness is thanksgiving. This is important enough to say again: the root of happiness is thanksgiving.

I have not seen this explicitly stated in the Bible, but it is something I realized in the holy spirit not so long ago, and it is something that can be inferred from the numerous scriptures on thanks and thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is one of the key components of Philippians 4:6-7, for example.

It also just makes sense if one reflects upon it. All moments of happiness we can experience have something underlying them for which we are thankful. If we were not thankful, we would not be happy.

The reason that I mention all of this is because I feel your unhappiness rather deeply in your words, and I feel that it is because your husband is not appreciating you (which, I certainly agree, he should be doing, but he may not be capable of this during the down times). But just as you cannot make your husband happy, neither can he make you happy.

Being thankful before God for what he has given you -- even the trials and his discipline (James 1:2-4 and Hebrews 12:4-12) -- is a way for each of you individually to find happiness. Now, this may be easier said than done, but praying for wisdom (James 1:5) can show you how to begin this journey.

And it is a journey, because we have lots and lots of pain, resentment, and things both big and little that keep us from being thankful and thus rob us of happiness. Asking God to help identify each of these things -- the little ones as well as the big ones -- and surrender them into his hands is part of this journey. And the further you progress along this path, the easier it becomes.

It becomes possible to imagine a life of spontaneous thankfulness for the littlest of things (including your husband's appreciation when he is able to give it, which is certainly not a little thing but which may be shown in little things), and it is when we can do this that we find that our happiness gives birth to radiant joy.

My prayer is that God would write this into your heart so that you may take steps each day along this path, so that one day your joy may be complete. I also pray that your husband might find it within himself to focus on what he may be thankful for at all times, but especially when he is feeling down.

In Christ,
Daryl
Thank you Daryl. You have brought a lot of things to light that I was not seeing. It is true i am more happy when i am thankful. I also suffer from depression. So when i get in my own negative thinking cycle it takes away my thankfullness and then takes away my joy. I didnt notice that i am trying to find happiness in my husband instead of doing my wifely duties to please God and finding my happiness in Jesus. And i think that is why i am where i am right. God is trying to work that out in me. Thank you for your prayers. I need them. Everyday is a battle
 
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All kinds of mental illness are often brutal on family members and can destroy relationships. Sometimes the reason is because it just go on and on for years and wears a person down until they can't handle the status quo. There may be a support group in your area. It would also be good in a different way to ask permission to attend a support group meeting for people with bipolar disorder (with or without your spouse).

Although there is mental illness in my family, I've only had to deal with it mildly, so I can only speak as one who has Bipolar Disorder (II). It took 10 years to get my medications adjusted to be as good as possible, and that's not uncommon. I was also in therapy for years, which was an essential element to getting better. I mention these only to suggest that you make sure (if possible) your husband is getting as much treatment as he needs.

The most important psycho-emotional need I have is to feel loved, which for me means (among other things) feeling accepted and affirmed. If you haven't already, it might be useful to dig into alternate ways to express your love (if they are genuine). I'm reminded of Gary Chapman's book, The Five Love Languages (which I haven't read completely). There may be different things you can do that require less effort than you have been making, or perhaps things that are more effective. It's obviously going to make a big difference what your spouse's relationship with God is like (e.g., what kinds of efforts does he believe he is responsible for).

Other things I need like living in a clean house and eating well prepared meals, are less important. You may be able to form a prioritized list by talking with him about it on multiple occasions. Even giving him 100% of your attention while feeling accepting and staying calm may be profitable for both of you. I wouldn't really try to turn aside his ideas—that is, oppose them. Rather say something positive in return that doesn't challenge him (but doesn't necessarily agree with him). You can always tell him how you feel about something he suggests, which won't challenge him like it does when you talk about him or how he is seeing things.

Some situations are too complicated to deal with in simple ways. In the end, he is responsible for what he chooses to say and do, not you. You may face a situation where you need to let him hurt himself to learn (but still be supportive however you can). Don't hide your emotions from him. If he says or does something hurtful, your reaction may carry much more weight than anything you might say. Our nature is to not do anything to hurt someone we care about, because then we hurt because they hurt. But trying to do this too much causes long-term pain as well as short-term pain. You'd need to use your judgment, of course.

But there is only so much you can do. As long-term caregivers learn, they have limitations. I visited an nursing home's Alzheimer's unit once. The nurses there were not permitted to be in that unit for more than a year. It was treated like a hard tour of duty. One reason is that wearing down is gradual, and a person can burn out without warning.

You need to treat your psycho-emotional needs as important along with trying to help and accept your spouse. One of the components of this is to maintain or build your relationship with Jesus, because he will definitely help you. I recommend talking with him in prayer, including (or especially) about the things that are bothering you, even if it is "complaining." I would especially seek God's help for strength and your ability to accept your spouse as he is, along with what God expects from you and doesn't expect from you. Note that life can be pretty awful at times, but God has given us this: we can be joyful because of him (and not necessarily anything else). It is a side effect of sanctification, which comes from abiding in Jesus and being obedient.

Make sure you are taking time away from caring (which includes withstanding his attitude, words, and behavior) for him. If he doesn't do it already—and you can do it if he refuses—is to not act on anything he wants to do unless it stays at the top of a priority list for at least a month. This is one way I learned to objectively evaluate what I felt I needed/wanted to say/do/buy.

I realize it is not within your control, but I will mention that if he wanted to, he could learn to intellectually evaluate things he wanted to say before saying them (or do before doing them). Some example questions he could ask himself are: Is following-up on this idea consistent with who I want to be? Are these words I'm about to say consistent with what God is like? (But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. [1 Corinthians 14:3, 1984 NIV]) How are people going to react to this?—perhaps I should wait until I think of a way to say this so it is pleasing to people.

You may be able to adopt an attitude that frees you from some pain by holding his words (or anything negative) in abeyance unless it persists for at least a month. Take the attitude, "sure, if things work out, but not this week." It goes along with the priority list idea.

Journaling the days that go well can help when you look back at them on bad days. (The same goes for answered prayers!)
 
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All kinds of mental illness are often brutal on family members and can destroy relationships. Sometimes the reason is because it just go on and on for years and wears a person down until they can't handle the status quo. There may be a support group in your area. It would also be good in a different way to ask permission to attend a support group meeting for people with bipolar disorder (with or without your spouse).

Although there is mental illness in my family, I've only had to deal with it mildly, so I can only speak as one who has Bipolar Disorder (II). It took 10 years to get my medications adjusted to be as good as possible, and that's not uncommon. I was also in therapy for years, which was an essential element to getting better. I mention these only to suggest that you make sure (if possible) your husband is getting as much treatment as he needs.

The most important psycho-emotional need I have is to feel loved, which for me means (among other things) feeling accepted and affirmed. If you haven't already, it might be useful to dig into alternate ways to express your love (if they are genuine). I'm reminded of Gary Chapman's book, The Five Love Languages (which I haven't read completely). There may be different things you can do that require less effort than you have been making, or perhaps things that are more effective. It's obviously going to make a big difference what your spouse's relationship with God is like (e.g., what kinds of efforts does he believe he is responsible for).

Other things I need like living in a clean house and eating well prepared meals, are less important. You may be able to form a prioritized list by talking with him about it on multiple occasions. Even giving him 100% of your attention while feeling accepting and staying calm may be profitable for both of you. I wouldn't really try to turn aside his ideas—that is, oppose them. Rather say something positive in return that doesn't challenge him (but doesn't necessarily agree with him). You can always tell him how you feel about something he suggests, which won't challenge him like it does when you talk about him or how he is seeing things.

Some situations are too complicated to deal with in simple ways. In the end, he is responsible for what he chooses to say and do, not you. You may face a situation where you need to let him hurt himself to learn (but still be supportive however you can). Don't hide your emotions from him. If he says or does something hurtful, your reaction may carry much more weight than anything you might say. Our nature is to not do anything to hurt someone we care about, because then we hurt because they hurt. But trying to do this too much causes long-term pain as well as short-term pain. You'd need to use your judgment, of course.

But there is only so much you can do. As long-term caregivers learn, they have limitations. I visited an nursing home's Alzheimer's unit once. The nurses there were not permitted to be in that unit for more than a year. It was treated like a hard tour of duty. One reason is that wearing down is gradual, and a person can burn out without warning.

You need to treat your psycho-emotional needs as important along with trying to help and accept your spouse. One of the components of this is to maintain or build your relationship with Jesus, because he will definitely help you. I recommend talking with him in prayer, including (or especially) about the things that are bothering you, even if it is "complaining." I would especially seek God's help for strength and your ability to accept your spouse as he is, along with what God expects from you and doesn't expect from you. Note that life can be pretty awful at times, but God has given us this: we can be joyful because of him (and not necessarily anything else). It is a side effect of sanctification, which comes from abiding in Jesus and being obedient.

Make sure you are taking time away from caring (which includes withstanding his attitude, words, and behavior) for him. If he doesn't do it already—and you can do it if he refuses—is to not act on anything he wants to do unless it stays at the top of a priority list for at least a month. This is one way I learned to objectively evaluate what I felt I needed/wanted to say/do/buy.

I realize it is not within your control, but I will mention that if he wanted to, he could learn to intellectually evaluate things he wanted to say before saying them (or do before doing them). Some example questions he could ask himself are: Is following-up on this idea consistent with who I want to be? Are these words I'm about to say consistent with what God is like? (But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. [1 Corinthians 14:3, 1984 NIV]) How are people going to react to this?—perhaps I should wait until I think of a way to say this so it is pleasing to people.

You may be able to adopt an attitude that frees you from some pain by holding his words (or anything negative) in abeyance unless it persists for at least a month. Take the attitude, "sure, if things work out, but not this week." It goes along with the priority list idea.

Journaling the days that go well can help when you look back at them on bad days. (The same goes for answered prayers!)
nk you Greg. It is very helpful to hear from someone who has gone through the same trials. Your advise has true wisdom and i will meditate on the scripters and advice you have given.
 
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Thank you! Will do :) it is so refreshing to be able to vent a little and have genuine Christians help me gan spiritual insight to my circumstances. This feels like a safe place and i am very thankfull
 
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Just wanted to give an update. For all those praying for us i give sincere gratitude. I can always till when i am being prayed for. It is working! I have seen a change in my husbands character and my own the last couple of days. He has had a lot more positive outlook on our marriage. Saying things like we can make it. And this may seem minor but it is very major to me. Instead of being overwhelmed by the children, and leaving the responsibility to me. He has been helping out with them and telling me its team work. These are very radical changes that i am so thankful for. Praise be to God and thank you Jesus for your divine intervention. And my God pass the blessing to the compassionate people who have heard my heart and prayed for us.
 
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