The Greatest Commandment...But Who's Obeying It?

[Endtime Survivors]

Hi all. Here's another video. It's roughly 22 minutes long, but it has a fantastic message. I look forward to hearing what others think.

 

[Neogaia777]

If you mean "Love" and being perfect in Love, none of us, but many are trying to...

But, we all fall short...

Christ Obeyed it... That's the only one I know of...

God Bless!

 

[Endtime Survivors]

If you mean "Love" and being perfect in Love, none of us, but many are trying to...

I think the video is pretty clear on what kind of love is being discussed...

 

[Neogaia777]

I think the video is pretty clear on what kind of love is being discussed...

Well, can't you just say it, or give some specific times in the video where it says it? My time is very valuable to me and watching a 20 minute video all the way through, well, I just don't have that kind of time to invest into one single thread right now...?

God Bless!

 

[Endtime Survivors]

Well, can't you just say it, or give some specific times in the video where it says it? My time is very valuable to me and watching a 20 minute video all the way through, well, I just don't have that kind of time to invest into one single thread right now...?

God Bless!

It's well worth your time, but I get it. I feel the same way when I'm presented with various videos. But, since the entire video is about the subject of what kind of love, it would make no sense for me to point to minute 13 or whatever as the starting place.

As an alternative suggestion, perhaps you could watch it in 5 minute chunks each day? Or just watch a few minutes of it and comment only on those few minutes?

 

[ToBeLoved]

Well, can't you just say it, or give some specific times in the video where it says it? My time is very valuable to me and watching a 20 minute video all the way through, well, I just don't have that kind of time to invest into one single thread right now...?

God Bless!

I agree. I am not going to watch a 22 minute video to participate in a thread.

There needs to be some written synopsis here.

 

[Endtime Survivors]

I agree. I am not going to watch a 22 minute video to participate in a thread.

Lol, no one is compelling you. The synopsis is in the thread title. If you want the details, watch the video. If not, no big deal.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Lol, no one is compelling you. The synopsis is in the thread title. If you want the details, watch the video. If not, no big deal.

Ok. I'll go but I'll just give my opinion before I do.

From the title, which you referred to what Jesus wants us to do is learn to love and to love more and more.

Comparing ourselves to anyone else but ourselves is a fallicy. We are to grow in OUR LOVE. Comparing our own ability to love to our previous ability to love. The problem is we compare ourselves and others to others.

The Holy Spirit indwells each of us, so He is a personal God, to my person and to your person and each individuals person.

Compare yourself to yourself. That is how love grows best.

 

[Endtime Survivors]

Compare yourself to yourself. That is how love grows best.

The question in the title suggests that there are many people who are not following the greatest commandment, including professing Christians.

I guess, before you could even address an issue like that, you'd need to resolve whether or not you think it's okay to rebuke a brother who sins or whether this "personal God to my person" thing means everyone is right in their own way and therefore rebukes would be inappropriate.

 

[ToBeLoved]

The question in the title suggests that there are many people who are not following the greatest commandment, including professing Christians.

I guess, before you could even address an issue like that, you'd need to resolve whether or not you think it's okay to rebuke a brother who sins or whether this "personal God to my person" thing means everyone is right in their own way and therefore rebukes would be inappropriate.

I addressed the title. You did not want me to go any further and told me to watch your 22 minute video.

So I guess you asked and got my opinion. I'm fine with what I wrote. You need to resolve your lack of providing information if you want to call my answer wrong, which evidently you do not want to take 22 minutes to do. Stalemate.

You see it as a rebuke. I meant it as my opinion but it is a pretty Biblical opinion so I think I have you there also. I have no issues to resolve unless you are going to write a synopsis of your own video. I read pretty fast so GO!

 

[ToBeLoved]

That being said, I use to waste a lot of time with end-times prophecy, in the 1990's, but those who love God do not need to fear anything, so to me studying the end-times in any great way is counterproductive because we could be doing better things with our time, like loving others and God.

 

[spruikah]

I checked out the video. I found it convicting. It's true that we often talk of loving God and others as if it's a given that we are doing that, when the truth is that we fall far short from it. It's a great video.

 

[Neogaia777]

1Timothy 1:5-7... (Mainly 5, says it best...)

5- Really, the objective of this mandate (the point of the gospel or good news that we are to get to and get out of it) is this: Love out of a clean, pure heart and out of a good, clear conscience (not being hypocritical) and out of, or by faith (trusting and believing in Love) without or free from hypocrisy... (Not being fake or hypocritical or showing partiality) in this (mandate, objective, goal)...

6- By deviating from these things (this) certain ones have been turned aside (missed this) into idle (futile, pointless, meaningless) talk...

7- wanting to be teacher's (of law, or doctrine or philosophy or other teachings) but not perceiving either the things they are saying or the things about which they are making strong assertions... (having no real insight or true understanding into such things or, not knowing what they are talking about)

 

[spruikah]

does the 5. 6. 7. reference something?

 

[ToBeLoved]

does the 5. 6. 7. reference something?

1 Timothy 1:5-7

Book: 1 Timothy
Chapter: 1
Verses: 5-7

And welcome to CF Spruikah! We're glad you are here.

 

[spruikah]

1 Timothy 1:5-7

Book: 1 Timothy
Chapter: 1
Verses: 5-7

And welcome to CF Spruikah! We're glad you are here.

Oh, that was too obvious! Ha! I can see you were more or less paraphrasing the verses.

Thanks for the welcome, by the way.

Back to this video, it made me think about how many times I have been quick to say "It's all about loving God and your neighbour" without thinking deeply about what the means. The latter part of the video that talks about sharing our wealth with other people is particularly convicting. It's true. If we really love our neighbour's as ourselves then we should be willing to share what we have when we see them in need. I think this should especially be true amongst Christians. It's fairly common to see inequality in most congregations. So I think there is a lot we can do to improve.

 

[spruikah]

That being said, I use to waste a lot of time with end-times prophecy, in the 1990's, but those who love God do not need to fear anything, so to me studying the end-times in any great way is counterproductive because we could be doing better things with our time, like loving others and God.

It seems there is an assumption there that studying the end-times has to do with fear. I can appreciate that that's how it is for most people. But certainly that is not the point from God's perspective. The prophecies about "the end of the world" are actually there to encourage us Christians, because that's what we are meant to be praying for each day when we pray "your Kingdom come". We are anxiously waiting the day when "the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord" and we can see the full manifestation of the Kingdom of God.

So to me, the end times are actually an encouragement, not a topic of fear. Jesus himself saw it that way. In Luke 21, after telling us about all the signs of the end and the troubles that will come, he says, "when you see these things happening, lift up your heads and stand up because your redemption is near".

I fully agree that we do not need to fear anything. I just don't see how that statement should translate into: "so let's stay away from end time prophecy". The key is in how you approach prophecy.

 

[ToBeLoved]

It seems there is an assumption there that studying the end-times has to do with fear. I can appreciate that that's how it is for most people. But certainly that is not the point from God's perspective. The prophecies about "the end of the world" are actually there to encourage us Christians, because that's what we are meant to be praying for each day when we pray "your Kingdom come". We are anxiously waiting the day when "the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord" and we can see the full manifestation of the Kingdom of God.

So to me, the end times are actually an encouragement, not a topic of fear. Jesus himself saw it that way. In Luke 21, after telling us about all the signs of the end and the troubles that will come, he says, "when you see these things happening, lift up your heads and stand up because your redemption is near".

I fully agree that we do not need to fear anything. I just don't see how that statement should translate into: "so let's stay away from end time prophecy". The key is in how you approach prophecy.

What I found however is that even Jesus does not know the day that He will return. That is only known by the Father, so to me there is much we do not know of course, because Jesus Himself does not know.

So I do not see Revelation or many people's explanation and I will also include Daniel (Book of Daniel) because people do not understand it and I don't know that God really wants us to fully understand it. God is pretty clear when He wants us to know, but these books are different, IMHO.

That is my reasoning for saying overwhelming study does not usually lead to answers, but more questions and theory, not fact.

 

[Endtime Survivors]

That is my reasoning for saying overwhelming study does not usually lead to answers, but more questions and theory, not fact.

I don't think we need overwhelming study to practice love, but we do need sincerity. Jesus' teachings show us how to fulfill the greatest commandment, and the 2nd which is like it.

For example, taking the lower seat is a practical expression of love for others. Keeping our charity and fasting secret is an example of our love for God, by keeping the praise off ourselves.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I don't think we need overwhelming study to practice love, but we do need sincerity. Jesus' teachings show us how to fulfill the greatest commandment, and the 2nd which is like it.

For example, taking the lower seat is a practical expression of love for others. Keeping our charity and fasting secret is an example of our love for God, by keeping the praise off ourselves.

Right.

It is all about putting things into practice and OUR becoming more like Christ. God can work with a willing servant.