The great falling away, to apostasy sin, or into Messiah?

[iamlamad]

This is departing from the faith not the planet.
Acts 21:21
And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
Forsake is the same Greek word as in Thessalonians, “apostasia”. It is a misuse of the word to try to make it say departure from the planet.

Perhaps you should argue with Strong; It is a compound word, apo and stasia.
For apo, Strong wrote:

1. of separation…
1A. of local separation,
1B. of separation of a part from the whole

1Bi. where of a whole some part is taken
1C. of any kind of separation of one thing from another…
1D. of a state of separation, that is of distance
1Di. physical, of distance of place

At the rapture, will some part of the entire population be taken? You know the answer is YES.

Will those taken be separated by DISTANCE? Again the answer is YES.

The other part of the compound word 'stasia" is where we get "stationary" or "not moving" from.

Putting these two words together then can certainly mean a part of a whole group suddenly moved from where they were to a new location, and it happen so fast, the rest of the whole group seems stationary - not moving.

Paul certainly know this meaning of apo and stasia.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

VINES

apotasso (G657),
primarily, "to set apart" (apo, off, "from," tasso, "to arrange"), is used in the middle voice, meaning (a) "to take leave of," e.g., Mar_6:46, (b) "to renounce, forsake," Luk_14:33, KJV, "forsaketh," RV, "renounceth" ("all that he hath"). See BID FAREWELL, RENOUNCE, SEND, Note (2) at end, TAKE, Note (14).

 

[iamlamad]

VINES

apotasso (G657),
primarily, "to set apart" (apo, off, "from," tasso, "to arrange"), is used in the middle voice, meaning (a) "to take leave of," e.g., Mar_6:46, (b) "to renounce, forsake," Luk_14:33, KJV, "forsaketh," RV, "renounceth" ("all that he hath"). See BID FAREWELL, RENOUNCE, SEND, Note (2) at end, TAKE, Note (14).

Will the church "take leave" from the earth? According to 1 Thes, 4 and John 14, I would say yes.

Did you ever notice that in the same verse Paul wrote "apostasia" he later wrote that the man of sin is revealed?

Did you ever notice that according to verses 6-8, the man of sin CANNOT be revealed until the power restraining the revealing is "taken out of the way?"

In other words, somewhere in verse 3a, that power God has used to restrain and hold back the revealing until the proper time has been removed. There is only ONE WORD in verse 3a that Paul could have meant to be the restraining power removed, and that is in the word, apostasia.

It seem there can be no other choice: God is using the CHURCH (and the Holy Spirit working through the church) to prevent that man of sin from being revealed before the time.

Therefore, either enough people fall away from the church that there remains not enough people through whom the Holy Spirit can work to restrain the revealing...

OR

The church will suddenly be "taken out of the way."

Since Paul's theme is the gathering, I think it is obvious.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

Will the church "take leave" from the earth? According to 1 Thes, 4 and John 14, I would say yes.

Did you ever notice that in the same verse Paul wrote "apostasia" he later wrote that the man of sin is revealed?

Did you ever notice that according to verses 6-8, the man of sin CANNOT be revealed until the power restraining the revealing is "taken out of the way?"

In other words, somewhere in verse 3a, that power God has used to restrain and hold back the revealing until the proper time has been removed. There is only ONE WORD in verse 3a that Paul could have meant to be the restraining power removed, and that is in the word, apostasia.

It seem there can be no other choice: God is using the CHURCH (and the Holy Spirit working through the church) to prevent that man of sin from being revealed before the time.

Therefore, either enough people fall away from the church that there remains not enough people through whom the Holy Spirit can work to restrain the revealing...

OR

The church will suddenly be "taken out of the way."

Since Paul's theme is the gathering, I think it is obvious.

What is your vote in the poll?
What do you reply to mentions of previous uses of "APOSTASIA?

 

[iamlamad]

What is your vote in the poll?
What do you reply to mentions of previous uses of "APOSTASIA?

Rapture, 7 years prior to His Armageddon coming.

Apostasia, just like many English words, can have more than one meaning.

If I had to guess, my guess would be that Paul wrote this so that if a Roman solider read it, they would not have a clue what Paul meant. In other words, Paul wrote this for the church, but also in case Romans read it. Indeed, if we did not have Paul's first letter, it would be much more difficult to exegete.