The Grand Canyon and the Genesis Flood

[BukiRob]

So is world another world that God created for us to live on then?

I'm saying that the creation Geologists who have spoken on exactly what they think happened physically to this earth, that the topography of this planet and the location of the continents are DIFFERENT from that world. What, God can change a heart of man but cant change the world? Which is easier?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm saying that the creation Geologists who have spoken on exactly what they think happened physically to this earth, that the topography of this planet and the location of the continents are DIFFERENT from that world. What, God can change a heart of man but cant change the world? Which is easier?

Ah okay.

So.... why does the Colorado River meander through the Grand Canyon?

 

[BukiRob]

Ah okay.

So.... why does the Colorado River meander through the Grand Canyon?

Uh, you are not SERIOUSLY trying to argue that the River carved the grand canyon are you? Have you really bothered to think that through?

Why does ANY river exist in the location it does? Just because there is a river meandering through it is no more proof that it is responsible for the grand canyon any more than the Mississippi River is... That is the same as conflating the stork population with the birth rates of babies in that city. One has nothing to do with the other

 

[BCP1928]

Uh, you are not SERIOUSLY trying to argue that the River carved the grand canyon are you? Have you really bothered to think that through?

Why does ANY river exist in the location it does? Just because there is a river meandering through it is no more proof that it is responsible for the grand canyon any more than the Mississippi River is... That is the same as conflating the stork population with the birth rates of babies in that city. One has nothing to do with the other

The Grand Canyon itself meanders. That 's the point.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Uh, you are not SERIOUSLY trying to argue that the River carved the grand canyon are you? Have you really bothered to think that through?

Why does ANY river exist in the location it does? Just because there is a river meandering through it is no more proof that it is responsible for the grand canyon any more than the Mississippi River is... That is the same as conflating the stork population with the birth rates of babies in that city. One has nothing to do with the other

As @BCP1928 points out: the river itself meanders. That is the point I am making.

If the Grand Canyon was formed by a massive, violent force, why does the Colorado River meander? Should it not just be a straight line?

 

[BukiRob]

The Grand Canyon itself meanders. That 's the point.

So does every river.... your point is you have no point

 

[dlamberth]

Uhm so what you are telling me is when the Apostles and Paul wrote about the preflood world being.... how did they put it, yeah DESTROYED and they phrase it to me it is GONE, DOES NOT EXIST, GONE.

If you did not approach this with a CARNAL mind you would see...

Are you saying that God re-Created the world?

 

[Shemjaza]

So does every river.... your point is you have no point

No, it's a consequence of water movement through not exactly regular material.

It's an understood and tested process.

 

[Astrid]

So does every river.... your point is you have no point

The point is that if you took the first exam in intro to remedial geology,
you would fail it because you know nothing about geology.

Further, you do not want to understand anything about it.

I know nothing about basketball.
So I would not get into a debate about
basketball tactics.

Among other considerations, it’s a matter of
self respect.

If you did begin to learn some geology you’d be
embarrassed by your past antics.

 

[Astrid]

Are you saying that God re-Created the world?

I think the saying is that intellectual honesty is
“carnal”, wrong and bad.

 

[JonasDaniels]

If you haven't heard of Dr. Walt Brown or his Hydroplate Theory, you may find this very interesting. While I certainly do not agree with all of his conclusions, I have found them very valuable when trying to make sense of a global deluge.

 

[Astrid]

Why do you choose to believe tabloid woo woo garbage?

I know actual geology is hard and requires study, but honestly!

 

[AV1611VET]

If there had been a “flood“ it would have floated the polar ice away and melted it.

Unless there was no polar ice at the time.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If you haven't heard of Dr. Walt Brown or his Hydroplate Theory, you may find this very interesting. While I certainly do not agree with all of his conclusions, I have found them very valuable when trying to make sense of a global deluge.

Still does nothing to explain meanders in rivers and the canyon itself.

 

[AV1611VET]

Still does nothing to explain meanders in rivers and the canyon itself.

I can explain meanders in rivers nicely.

And back it up with Scripture as well.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I can explain meanders in rivers nicely.

And back it up with Scripture as well.

Please do. Chapter and verse where the Bible explicitly goes "And in creating the Grand Canyon in Nevada, God created meanders in both the canyon and the Colorado River that runs through it"... or something to that effect.

 

[AV1611VET]

Please do. Chapter and verse where the Bible explicitly goes "And in creating the Grand Canyon in Nevada, God created meanders in both the canyon and the Colorado River that runs through it"... or something to that effect.

Right.

Then academia would claim it's a hoax, since It would mention the Grand Canyon and Colorado River by name.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Right.

Then academia would claim it's a hoax, since It would mention the Grand Canyon and Colorado River by name.

So can you explain it with Scripture or can't you?

And I will not lie, I was being facetious in that previous comment.

 

[AV1611VET]

So can you explain it with Scripture or can't you?

This is my explanation:

When the Flood ended, God commanded the waters to leave by way of "siphoning points."

On their way to these "siphoning points," they were to "snake" their way around.

This etched serpentine grooves in the earth, showing THE SERPENT Who's boss.

Psalm 104:7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

This is my explanation:

When the Flood ended, God commanded the waters to leave by way of "siphoning points."

On their way to these "siphoning points," they were to "snake" their way around.

This etched serpentine grooves in the earth, showing THE SERPENT Who's boss.

Psalm 104:7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.

Well, it's an attempt for sure.