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[NxNW]

What is fantasy is the the earth orbiting the sun.

Why do the seasons have a 365-day cycle?

What is fantasy is the so called moon walks.

You can watch the video. I've actually seen several of the lunar astronauts in person, including the first and last man on the moon.

What is fantasy is gravity that supposedly holds all the oceans on a ball.

Gravity can be measured.

What is fantasy is the moons light is reflected from the sun.

Show me the moon generating its own light.

What is fantasy is the supposed curvature of the earth.

You can see it from a plane. I have.

You can see it from sea level with a long lens.

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[Strong in Him]

Why because you say so ?

No, because they have nothing to do with that we're talking about.
They mention "north" - big deal. Do they say "north pole"? Do they mention a whirlpool or speak of a magnetic rock? No.

Your username "mentions" an apple.
Are you Sir Isaac Newton, William Tell or a fruit pie?
No. So don't be so daft.

 

[Apple Sky]

All we need is a photo of it.

I will when this forum decides to get their error fixed, I fed up with having to post pics through an image host.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes & in Revelation 4:3 didn't John see a throne that resembled the color of an emerald which could represent the Aurora Boreallis of the north pole.

So are you saying that God's throne is at the North Pole - a.k.a. the middle of the earth?
Like I said, you need to learn to read the Bible.

 

[Strong in Him]

https://i.imghippo.com/files/UNT2895brQ.png

Did you miss the word symbolically in that comment?
Once again, you post something which doesn't say what you think it says.

 

[Apple Sky]

Are you Sir Isaac Newton, William Tell or a fruit pie?

Dunno about a fruit pie lol'z.

Did you miss the word symbolically in that comment?

No I didn't.

 

[Apple Sky]

I found this interesting posted by a member on here.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/1-enochs-astronomy-mathematics.8338791/

 

[Strong in Him]

What is fantasy is the the earth orbiting the sun.

Nope - that's how we get the seasons of the year, sunsets etc.

What is fantasy is the so called moon walks.

I'm sorry, this is either evidence of a very bad memory, a lie or a desperate attempt to try to make us forget that you once accepted the moon landings.

If you seriously think they are a fantasy, your previous, lovely Christian testimony of how you believed every word of Charles Duke's testimony is wrong, made up or a lie.
We should also have a serious conversation about that.
I have bought, and am reading, two books by astronauts about their time on the moon. Others - Neil Armstrong and maybe Charles Duke - have also written books.
I haven't got Buzz Aldrin's first book, but his second, where he writes the names of the doctor who cared for the astronauts when they got back to earth, the lifeboat crew who picked them up and many other, named, individuals. I'll write their names out for you if you like, so you can look them up. Was that a lie? Did the people agree to publicly say that they had done things which they hadn't?
Buzz wrote about his relationship with his wife and children when he returned to earth; was he lying about that? Did he make his kids lie for him?
Later in the book, though I haven't got there yet, he speaks about his struggle with depression and alcoholism. Maybe he lied about that too? Maybe he decided to reinvent himself as a drunk because he thought people weren't paying him enough attention?

It's easy to wave a dismissive hand and say, "liars" - it's not so easy to disprove all the specific details.

 

[Apple Sky]

Nope - that's how we get the seasons of the year, sunsets etc.

I'm sorry, this is either evidence of a very bad memory, a lie or a desperate attempt to try to make us forget that you once accepted the moon landings.

If you seriously think they are a fantasy, your previous, lovely Christian testimony of how you believed every word of Charles Duke's testimony is wrong, made up or a lie.
We should also have a serious conversation about that.
I have bought, and am reading, two books by astronauts about their time on the moon. Others - Neil Armstrong and maybe Charles Duke - have also written books.
I haven't got Buzz Aldrin's first book, but his second, where he writes the names of the doctor who cared for the astronauts when they got back to earth, the lifeboat crew who picked them up and many other, named, individuals. I'll write their names out for you if you like, so you can look them up. Was that a lie? Did the people agree to publicly say that they had done things which they hadn't?
Buzz wrote about his relationship with his wife and children when he returned to earth; was he lying about that? Did he make his kids lie for him?
Later in the book, though I haven't got there yet, he speaks about his struggle with depression and alcoholism. Maybe he lied about that too? Maybe he decided to reinvent himself as a drunk because he thought people weren't paying him enough attention?

It's easy to wave a dismissive hand and say, "liars" - it's not so easy to disprove all the specific details.

So what I too have bought a book by Bart Sibrel was he lying ?

 

[Hentenza]

Seek & ye shall find. Mathew 7:8.

That’s the problem for you. You don't seek therefore you don't find.

 

[Hentenza]

So what I too have bought a book by Bart Sibrel was he lying ?

Misguided.

 

[David Lamb]

https://i.imghippo.com/files/UNT2895brQ.png

I opened your link, (another anonymous one) but it didn't contain anything to indicate that te Northern Lights are what John was shown by God in his vision.

 

[Strong in Him]

So what I too have bought a book by Bart Sibrel was he lying ?

What do you mean, "so what?"
What's your answer - was Buzz lying about the several named individuals in his book?
Was he lying about the events which happened after their return to earth - which anyone can look up?
Was he lying about suffering from depression? How do you know, and why would he?

I've no idea what Bart Sibrel says in his book.

Don't forget, there's a difference between being mistaken, getting something wrong and deliberately telling an untruth with an intention to deceive. How are you going to prove that astronauts knew full well they did not blast into space, walk on the moon, felt ill when they returned to earth, did not meet the President, get loads of fan mail, get worn out with public speaking etc etc, yet deliberately said that they did?
Have you never heard of fact checking, or people suing if false claims were made about them?

 

[Apple Sky]

I've no idea what Bart Sibrel says in his book.

No one wouldn't know would one ? They only want to read about fairy tales.

 

[Strong in Him]

No one wouldn't know would one ? They only want to read about fairy tales.

Well why don't you tell me what he says instead of making ridiculous statements?

 

[Apple Sky]

How are you going to prove that astronauts knew full well they did not blast into space

I dunno, how you gonna prove that they did ? And don't give me all the stories & film footage as I've seen them all & they don't prove a thing.

 

[Phil G]

No one wouldn't know would one ? They only want to read about fairy tales.

Well you’re the one who seems to like fairy tales- magnetic rocks, giant whirlpools. You should just listen to yourself! Jackanory here we come!

 

[Apple Sky]

Well why don't you tell me what he says instead of making ridiculous statements?

He basically states what is in his video.

 

[Strong in Him]

I dunno, how you gonna prove that they did ? And don't give me all the stories & film footage as I've seen them all & they don't prove a thing.

They do. You believed one of them yourself.

It's not enough to say that these astronauts are lying.
You have to believe that,
their colleagues,
the film crew,
NASA - and I know what you're thinking but there's no way you can prove that every single member of NASA in 1969 was a liar.
the astronauts partners, siblings and children,
those who wrote and published their books,
the journalists, medical staff etc etc
were lying too.

What does that total - 50,000-60,000 people? All lying, while you and Dean Odle alone know the truth?
Give over.

 

[Strong in Him]

He basically states what is in his video.

Not watching that.
You said that you had Bart's book and asked me if he was lying. Tell me what he said and I'll answer you.

I still haven't had an answer about Buzz's statements.