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"In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth." - (Genesis 1:1)

The universe is old and planet earth is old, but the life on planet earth today is young.

After prehistoric life on planet earth became extinct many years ago, God re-created new life on planet earth around 6 to 12 thousand years ago.

What we are observing today is young earth life on an old earth planet.

Genesis 1 is the description of this young earth life being re-created on an old earth planet in six days.

The "heaven" in Genesis 1:1 is referring to the re-creation of the planet's atmosphere, more specifically the troposphere.

And the "earth" in Genesis 1:1 is referring to the re-creation of the planet's surface with its abundance of new life.

In other words, Genesis 1 is describing the re-creation of the planet's biosphere.

The biosphere is the part of Earth's outer shell — including air, land, surface rocks and water — within which life occurs.

Genesis 1 is describing the re-creation of this part of earth's outer shell within which new life-forms arose, including Man.

The reason why many life-forms today look similar to (yet different from) prehistoric life-forms is because the DNA remains of extinct, prehistoric life-forms were re-used by God to re-create the new life-forms we see today (Re-Creation with Modification).

Man, therefore, did not descend from apes (Descent with Modification), but was re-created, 6 to 12 thousand years ago, from the DNA remains of an extinct, prehistoric hominid, in a similar way as Eve being re-created from Adam (Re-Creation with Modification).
 
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"In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth." - (Genesis 1:1)

The universe is old and planet earth in old, but the life on planet earth today is young.

After prehistoric life on planet earth became extinct many years ago, God re-created new life on planet earth 6 to 12 thousand years ago.

What we are observing today is young earth life on an old earth planet.

Genesis 1 is the description of this young earth life being re-created on an old earth planet in six days.

The "heaven" in Genesis 1:1 is referring to the re-creation of the planet's atmosphere, more specifically the troposphere.

And the "earth" in Genesis 1:1 is referring to the re-creation of the planet's surface with its abundance of new life.

In other words, Genesis 1 is describing the re-creation of the planet's biosphere.

The biosphere is the part of Earth's outer shell — including air, land, surface rocks and water — within which life occurs.

Genesis 1 is describing the re-creation of this part of earth's outer shell within which new life-forms arose, including Man.

The reason why many life-forms today look similar to (yet different from) prehistoric life-forms is because the DNA remains of extinct, prehistoric life-forms were re-used by God to re-create the new life-forms we see today (Re-Creation with Modification).

Man, therefore, did not descend from apes (Descent with Modification), but was re-created, 6 to 12 thousand years ago, from the DNA remains of an extinct, prehistoric hominid (Re-Creation with Modification).

Pure speculation with no biblical facts to back it. The word "recreation" is found nowhere in Genesis 1. The recent discovery of T-Rex soft, stinky, stretchy tissue (in 2005) proves that dinosaurs lived much more recently than evolutionists think. More than likely, dinosaurs existed during, or sometime after the Genesis Flood event... which happened just 4300 years ago.
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There's no way, any tissue can look so good if it's 65-70 MILLION years old.
The discoverer of the tissue, Dr. Mary Schweitzer, said of the discovery,
"It's utterly shocking!" It's time to rethink MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years.
 
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I don't like the word "re-create" because there never was a "creation". English "creation" comes from the Latin creatura. Whereas, everything God ever did, only uses terms like, form(Adam), built(Eve), made, etc.

Everything is something from something as you clearly said, and nothing is ex nilio.

I did a study on the Hebrew bara. The more I studied it, the weirder it got.

It's meaning in Genesis 1:1 is: to speak into existence. Remember God said, "light be!' and light was'"?

Look at the Hebrew magic word 'abracadabra': I have said it and it shall come to pass.

I personally believe that God commanded the universe to exist out of the energy of space that Nicola Tesla called "the aether". Therefore, the man that made us so many things we still enjoy to this day, said that mass is energy and "Einstein is a kindly gentleman trying to be helpful" but is dead wrong on the E=MC2 thingy. Tesla publically denounced Einstein's equation and conclusions as Einstein and Tesla were contemporaries. Einstein was a math geek and Tesla actually made stuff that worked using the energy he called "the aether".

Genesis 1:1 is also interesting because the verb bara is a third person singular and in the Hebrew, it precedes the noun which, according to proper Hebrew syntax, is a constructive sequence.

However, there is a radical change in Genesis 1:2 when the writer places the verb hayah after the noun ha'aretz which is a disjunctive sequence. It is very foreboding in the Hebrew.

Therefore, hayah is mistranslated as "was" and should be understood as "became" as it is always translated elsewhere when it is in disjunction.

So Moses would not disagree with you. Clearly the words of Moses indicate, as you have said, that God restored the earth in the Genesis account.

Let me give you same proof concerning bara and not "create".

By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the breath(ruwack) of His mouth all their host. Psalm 33:6 NASB
 
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I did a study on the Hebrew bara. The more I studied it, the weirder it got.

Funny, the more I studied the word the more clear it all became. The phrase, 'heaven and the earth', is a Hebrew expression meaning the universe. All we really get from this passage is that the cosmos and earth were created, 'in the beginning'. The perspective of creation week is from the surface of the earth, starting with the Spirit of God hovering over the deep (Gen. 1:2). In the chapter there are three words used for God's work in creation. The first is 'created' ('bara' H1254) a very precise term used only of God.

Create ‘bara’ (H1254) - 'This verb has profound theological significance, since it has only God as it’s subject. Only God can create in the sense implied by bara. The verb expresses the idea of creation out of nothing...(Vines Expository Dictionary)​

It is used once to describe the creation of the universe (Gen 1:1), then again to describe the creation of life (Gen 1:21). Finally, in the closing verses, it is used three times for the creation of Adam and Eve (Gen. 1:27). The word translated, 'made' (asah 6213) , has a much broader range of meaning and is used to speak of the creation of the 'firmament' (Gen 1:7), the sun, moon and stars (Gen 1:16), procreation where offspring are made 'after his/their kind' (Gen 1:25) and as a general reference to creation in it's vast array (Gen 1:31).

Made ‘asah’(H6213) "A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application" (Gen 1:7, Gen 1:16, Gen 1:25, Gen 1:31, Isa. 41:20, 43:7, 45:7, 12, Amos 4:13). (Strong’s Dictionary). "The verb, which occurs over 2600 times in the Old Testament, is used as a synonym for “create” only about 60 times…only when asah is parallel to bara…can we be sure that it implies creation." (Vine 52).​
 
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The universe is old and planet earth in old, but the life on planet earth today is young.
This is what the Gap Theory teaches. But the Ten Commandments refute this idea:

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exod 20:11).
 
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The original Eden creation.

Genesis 1:1, Genesis 2:4 - Genesis 4:26.

The re-creation to replenish (Genesis 1:27) the Eden creation.

Genesis 1:2 - Genesis 2:3, Genesis 5
Would you like to elaborate on what you mean by 'replenish'?
 
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Would you like to elaborate on what you mean by 'replenish'?
Replace them because of the Genesis 1:2 deep flooded the earth. The Geneology of Genesis 4 was replaced with the Genesis 5 geneology.
 
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This is what the Gap Theory teaches.
Some ideas are similar, but not all.
But the Ten Commandments refute this idea:

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exod 20:11).
I don’t see how the 4th commandment refutes a re-created earth.

To re-create is to create anew.

To create a new earth environment does not refute the idea that there was a preexisting earth environment before our present one.

The preexisting earth environment would have been more suitable for dinosaurs.

The present earth environment is more suitable for man, and the 4th commandment refers only to this present earth environment that was created in six days.
 
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Pure speculation with no biblical facts to back it. The word "recreation" is found nowhere in Genesis 1.
You do not need to see the word “re-creation” in Genesis. You just need to see the examples of re-creation occurring in the Bible.

To re-create simply means to create anew. It can be argued that the entire Bible is a book about re-creation since Christians are called to be created anew.

One example of re-creation is the resurrection of the just.

At the resurrection we are re-created from death and our bodies modified from flesh to spirit, from mortal to immortal (Re-Creation with Modification).

Another example is the creation of Eve from Adam.

The bone from a man’s body was re-created into a new body that was modified into a woman (Re-Creation with Modification).

Eve is the re-creation of man modified into a woman – “In the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” – (Gen 1:27)

Eve being a re-creation of man modified into a woman gives biblical support to the idea that the first man (Adam) could have been a re-creation of an extinct hominid modified into a human (Re-Creation with Modification).
The recent discovery of T-Rex soft, stinky, stretchy tissue (in 2005) proves that dinosaurs lived much more recently than evolutionists think. More than likely, dinosaurs existed during, or sometime after the Genesis Flood event... which happened just 4300 years ago.
I do agree that dinosaurs could have lived much more recently than millions of years ago, but I also believe they became extinct before the creation events in Genesis 1.

If the creation events did occur around 6 to 12 thousand years ago, then dinosaurs could have become extinct just a few thousand years earlier. This time frame would still allow for soft tissue to be found in dinosaur bones.
 
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I don't like the word "re-create" because there never was a "creation". English "creation" comes from the Latin creatura. Whereas, everything God ever did, only uses terms like, form(Adam), built(Eve), made, etc.
How can you have a Creator without a creation:

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator" - (Rom 1:25)
Everything is something from something as you clearly said, and nothing is ex nilio.

I did a study on the Hebrew bara. The more I studied it, the weirder it got.

It's meaning in Genesis 1:1 is: to speak into existence. Remember God said, "light be!' and light was'"?

Look at the Hebrew magic word 'abracadabra': I have said it and it shall come to pass.
I believe the Word of God and the Spirit of God always work together. The Word expresses God's desire, and the Spirit brings His desire into existence.

In Genesis 1:2 we see the Spirit of God hovering over the earth. This suggests that the Spirit was at work to bring into existence the desire of God's Word.
Genesis 1:1 is also interesting because the verb bara is a third person singular and in the Hebrew, it precedes the noun which, according to proper Hebrew syntax, is a constructive sequence.

However, there is a radical change in Genesis 1:2 when the writer places the verb hayah after the noun ha'aretz which is a disjunctive sequence. It is very foreboding in the Hebrew.

Therefore, hayah is mistranslated as "was" and should be understood as "became" as it is always translated elsewhere when it is in disjunction.

So Moses would not disagree with you. Clearly the words of Moses indicate, as you have said, that God restored the earth in the Genesis account.
I agree.

The earth "became" formless and empty of prehistoric life before it was restored with the new life we see today.
Let me give you same proof concerning bara and not "create".

By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the breath(ruwack) of His mouth all their host. Psalm 33:6 NASB
In Genesis 1, the words “creation” and “made” are both used throughout the chapter.

Heaven and earth were created through the events that were made to occur over a six day period.

It’s like the creation of a garden as plants are made to grow.

Plants are made to grow by planting seeds and watering those seeds, and this results in the creation of a garden.

On day 1 of Genesis, light was made to appear.

On day 2, the sky was made to appear.

On day 3, dry land was made to appear and vegetation was made to grow.

On day 4, the sun, moon and stars were made to appear.

All these events resulted in the new creation of an earth environment capable of supporting life.

And on days 5 and 6, living creatures were created to live a new life in this newly created earth environment.

So it does make sense that the words “creation” and “made” were both used throughout Genesis 1.
 
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Funny, the more I studied the word the more clear it all became. The phrase, 'heaven and the earth', is a Hebrew expression meaning the universe. All we really get from this passage is that the cosmos and earth were created, 'in the beginning'.
Actually, Genesis 1:8 tells us what the Heaven is:

“Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven.” – (Gen 1:7-8).

Heaven is the expanse of the sky between the sea-water below and the sky-water above. Heaven is the earth’s lower atmosphere.

The Hebrew word for ‘Heaven’ (shamayim), can also be translated as ‘air’ or ‘sky’, and may refer to the lower atmosphere of the earth.

In fact, the Hebrew word for ‘Heaven’ (shamayim) is derived from the meaning “sky-water”. Sham meaning “sky”, and mayim meaning “water”.

When the Hebrew word for Heaven (shamayim) is used in reference to the cosmos it usually includes all the stars and planets of the universe, including the earth, and it also includes ‘sheol’ (the underworld) the realm of the dead.

The creation of the Heaven in Genesis 1 is certainly not referring to a place that includes the realm of the dead. It makes far more sense, then, to conclude that Heaven in Genesis 1 is referring to the earth’s lower atmosphere which is composed in part of sky-water (sham-mayim).

The perspective of creation week is from the surface of the earth, starting with the Spirit of God hovering over the deep (Gen. 1:2). In the chapter there are three words used for God's work in creation. The first is 'created' ('bara' H1254) a very precise term used only of God.

Create ‘bara’ (H1254) - 'This verb has profound theological significance, since it has only God as it’s subject. Only God can create in the sense implied by bara. The verb expresses the idea of creation out of nothing...(Vines Expository Dictionary)

It is used once to describe the creation of the universe (Gen 1:1), then again to describe the creation of life (Gen 1:21). Finally, in the closing verses, it is used three times for the creation of Adam and Eve (Gen. 1:27). The word translated, 'made' (asah 6213) , has a much broader range of meaning and is used to speak of the creation of the 'firmament' (Gen 1:7), the sun, moon and stars (Gen 1:16), procreation where offspring are made 'after his/their kind' (Gen 1:25) and as a general reference to creation in it's vast array (Gen 1:31).

Made ‘asah’(H6213) "A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application" (Gen 1:7, Gen 1:16, Gen 1:25, Gen 1:31, Isa. 41:20, 43:7, 45:7, 12, Amos 4:13). (Strong’s Dictionary). "The verb, which occurs over 2600 times in the Old Testament, is used as a synonym for “create” only about 60 times…only when asah is parallel to bara…can we be sure that it implies creation." (Vine 52).
I do agree that ‘Create’ (bara) and ‘Made’ (asah) have different meanings.

On day 4, the sun, moon and stars were made (asah), they were not created (bara).

In Genesis 1:16 we read:

“God made two great lights — the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.”

As you said, ‘Made’ (asah) has a much broader range of meaning, which includes ‘to put in order’, ‘to appoint’, ‘to ordain’.

I believe ‘to appoint’ would be the batter translation for Genesis 1:16.

‘To appoint’ means to assign a job or role to something or someone.

Genesis 1:16 would then read:

“God appointed two great lights — the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also appointed the stars.”

The sun, moon and stars were also made/appointed to “serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years” – (Gen 1:14)

All this suggest that the sun, moon, and stars could have been in existence before the creation events in Genesis 1 began, and on day 4 they were each then appointed to their particular roles to serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years.
 
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It seems to me that Genesis 1 begins by describing an earth that was covered in a thick cloud of fog suspended in the earth’s atmosphere restricting sun-light from reaching the earth – “Darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.” – (Gen 1:2)

As this thick fog dissipated over a period of six days, sun-light began to appear on day 1. Then the sky began to appear on day 2 as the fog continued to clear up from the atmosphere. This allowed sun-light to penetrate the earth so that vegetation could grow on day 3. And by day 4, the thick cloud in the sky had dissipated enough for the sun, moon and stars to become visible again in the sky. Thus, the earth environment suitable for life was re-created so that on day 5 and 6 living creatures were formed to replenish the earth with life.

It seems to me that Genesis 1 is not describing the original creation of the universe, but is describing a re-creation or renewal of the earth following a global extinction of prehistoric life:

“When you hide Your face, they are terrified; when You take away their breath, they die and return to the dust. When You send your Spirit, they are created, and You renew the face of the earth.” – (Ps 104:29-30)

It is interesting that in Genesis 1 the Spirit of God was hovering over the earth just as God was about to renew the face of it.
 
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How can you have a Creator without a creation:

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator" - (Rom 1:25)
I believe the Word of God and the Spirit of God always work together. The Word expresses God's desire, and the Spirit brings His desire into existence.

In Genesis 1:2 we see the Spirit of God hovering over the earth. This suggests that the Spirit was at work to bring into existence the desire of God's Word.
I agree.

The earth "became" formless and empty of prehistoric life before it was restored with the new life we see today.
In Genesis 1, the words “creation” and “made” are both used throughout the chapter.

Heaven and earth were created through the events that were made to occur over a six day period.

It’s like the creation of a garden as plants are made to grow.

Plants are made to grow by planting seeds and watering those seeds, and this results in the creation of a garden.

On day 1 of Genesis, light was made to appear.

On day 2, the sky was made to appear.

On day 3, dry land was made to appear and vegetation was made to grow.

On day 4, the sun, moon and stars were made to appear.

All these events resulted in the new creation of an earth environment capable of supporting life.

And on days 5 and 6, living creatures were created to live a new life in this newly created earth environment.

So it does make sense that the words “creation” and “made” were both used throughout Genesis 1.
K'den--Maker?
 
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It seems to me that Genesis 1 begins by describing an earth that was covered in a thick cloud of fog suspended in the earth’s atmosphere restricting sun-light from reaching the earth – “Darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.” – (Gen 1:2)

As this thick fog dissipated over a period of six days, sun-light began to appear on day 1. Then the sky began to appear on day 2 as the fog continued to clear up from the atmosphere. This allowed sun-light to penetrate the earth so that vegetation could grow on day 3. And by day 4, the thick cloud in the sky had dissipated enough for the sun, moon and stars to become visible again in the sky. Thus, the earth environment suitable for life was re-created so that on day 5 and 6 living creatures were formed to replenish the earth with life.

It seems to me that Genesis 1 is not describing an original creation, but a re-creation or renewal of the earth following a global extinction of prehistoric life:

“When you hide Your face, they are terrified; when You take away their breath, they die and return to the dust. When You send your Spirit, they are created, and You renew the face of the earth.” – (Ps 104:29-30)

It is interesting that in Genesis 1 the Spirit of God was hovering over the earth just as God was about to renew the face of it.
"Snowball Earth" is now accepted science. I seems to me that in Gen 1:2 that the earth was frozen and nothing survived the ice except maybe dormant seeds.

Apparently, the ruwack-breath of God incubated the snowball(global warming) and caused the waters to flow and then God spoke light into existence to keep it flowing.
 
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Well if the heavens and earth were made in those six days, it automatically means that there was nothing before that.
This is only if you assume the "Heaven and the earth" in Genesis 1 is referring to the universe.

I don't make that assumption.

Because if the "Heaven" is only referring to the planet's atmosphere, and the "earth" is only referring to the planet's surface, it does not automatically mean there was never a preexisting earth environment.

Genesis 1 itself does give us an indication of what "Heaven" is:

“Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven.” – (Gen 1:7-8).

Genesis 1 tells us that Heaven is the expanse of the sky, the earth’s lower atmosphere composed in part of sky-water (rain-clouds).

The Hebrew word for 'Heaven' is 'shamayim', derived from the meaning “sky-water”.

Sham
meaning “sky”, and mayim meaning “water”.

"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." - (Gen 7:11)

The windows of heaven being opened is a reference to sky-water (sham-mayim) falling from the sky .

It seems more likely to me that 'Heaven' in Genesis 1 is referring to earth’s lower atmosphere composed in part of sky-water or sham-mayim.
 
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This is only if you assume the "Heaven and the earth" in Genesis 1 is referring to the universe.
And why wouldn't you also make the same assumption? Actually the Hebrew has "heavens" in Genesis 1:1. That is הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם (ha shamayim plural) So that includes the universe.
 
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"Snowball Earth" is now accepted science. I seems to me that in Gen 1:2 that the earth was frozen and nothing survived the ice except maybe dormant seeds.
Yes, I do agree that the earth could have been frozen prior to the creation events in Genesis 1. This would explain the abundance of water on earth at the beginning of the chapter.

It is interesting to note that the last ice age is said to have ended about 12 thousand years ago. Just enough time for the ice to melt producing the watery condition on earth in Genesis 1.

It is also interesting to note that farming is said to have begun by humans about 10 thousand years ago.

All this coincides with around the time Adam is believed to have been created.
Apparently, the ruwack-breath of God incubated the snowball(global warming) and caused the waters to flow and then God spoke light into existence to keep it flowing.
Ha :).

My theory is that a global catastrophe from some kind of planetary collision with earth occurred in the distant past. This would have shot debris into the air polluting the earth's atmosphere. The pollution would then block out sun-light from reaching the earth, resulting in a global freeze.

This would explain the darkness and water covering the earth in Genesis 1. :)
 
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