The Fossil Record Proves Speciation, Not Evolution of Lifeforms Observed

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

In other news: rocks aren't alive and the fossil record does show evolution of lifeforms.

 

[Shemjaza]

Use human as an example, the fluid flows in our circulation system is blood. There are several requirements need to be satisfied there. I think you know all of them. If any one of the requirement is not satisfied, then it is not blood.

Okay.

What are the requirements?

 

[juvenissun]

Okay.

What are the requirements?

To be fair, you name a few, I will make it complete. It is not that hard and this is only the first step which leads to the new concept of life.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

To be fair, you name a few, I will make it complete. It is not that hard and this is only the first step which leads to the new concept of life.

That's a cowardly way to go about it.
Why don't you just tell us what the 'new concept of life' you've created is?

 

[juvenissun]

That's a cowardly way to go about it.
Why don't you just tell us what the 'new concept of life' you've created is?

Because we have people like you.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because we have people like you.

People who see that you enjoy playing the part of an intellectual when you really aren't? Colour me shocked.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It is useless and you won't accept it. (see if I am right)
Anyway, here is what you asked for: A life must have blood.
Any clue?

Lol, what? That definition of life not only excludes rocks, but it excludes all single celled organisms, simple animals such as jellyfish and sponges, as well as all plants and fungi.

Even if your definition of having blood amounts to simply "containing fluid", this definitely doesn't cover most rocks but would mean you consider clouds to be alive, weirdly enough. And it certainly isn't a modern definition of life in any sense, heck, it's not even on the level of defining humans as "a featherless biped". Shall I fill a geode with blood, cover it in feathers, and behold a new species? I don't think so.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I don't have to defend anything.

In a DEBATE?! That's half of the activity!

 

[juvenissun]

Lol, what? That definition of life not only excludes rocks, but it excludes all single celled organisms, simple animals such as jellyfish and sponges, as well as all plants and fungi.

Even if your definition of having blood amounts to simply "containing fluid", this definitely doesn't cover most rocks but would mean you consider clouds to be alive, weirdly enough. And it certainly isn't a modern definition of life in any sense, heck, it's not even on the level of defining humans as "a featherless biped". Shall I fill a geode with blood, cover it in feathers, and behold a new species? I don't think so.

You don't get it. And you do not ask good questions. Sigh!
One thing you should study is how to learn.

 

[juvenissun]

In a DEBATE?! That's half of the activity!

No debate.
Why should I debate?

 

[Shemjaza]

To be fair, you name a few, I will make it complete. It is not that hard and this is only the first step which leads to the new concept of life.

The only non circular definition attribute of blood I can name is a liquid that carries other chemicals... but that is totally insufficient given your usage.

 

[juvenissun]

The only non circular definition attribute of blood I can name is a liquid that carries other chemicals... but that is totally insufficient given your usage.

Blood Must :
1. Be fluid (actually this is part of #2)
2. Conservatively circulate (a closed system driven by a "heart")
3. Carry supplies
4. Transport waste

If one is short, then not blood.

 

[Shemjaza]

Blood Must :
1. Be fluid (actually this is part of #2)
2. Conservatively circulate (a closed system driven by a "heart")
3. Carry supplies
4. Transport waste

If one is short, then not blood.

How does one define waste in this context?

 

[juvenissun]

How does one define waste in this context?

The waste is there to be the contrast of supply. The life system needs input of substance, then it will produce output of some other (or the same) substance. The waste means the output. The blood brings in the input and brings away the output.

 

[Kylie]

It is useless and you won't accept it. (see if I am right)
Anyway, here is what you asked for: A life must have blood.
Any clue?

Are you going to just answer the question or not?

Give me your definition of life. Don't come in here expecting a decent discussion if you're just going to play silly little games.

 

[Kylie]

Why did I say that? I said that based on scientific argument, which you do not know where did I say it, and you do not care to ask.

You made me a little angry. I gave my scientific argument to another person and you never care to read it. Then you accused me not to talk about science. If you do that again, then I will leave you alone.

If you are claiming that rocks are alive, well, I don't know what you're talking about, but it isn't science.

 

[Shemjaza]

The waste is there to be the contrast of supply. The life system needs input of substance, then it will produce output of some other (or the same) substance. The waste means the output. The blood brings in the input and brings away the output.

Okay. I suspect that you have created a definition of life and blood where my brother's swimming pool is alive, but a bacteria is not.

The pump cycles water through the filtration system vs basic fluid dynamics moving around the food, oxygen and waste.

EDIT:
Your earlier responses seemed inconsistent. Using your personal definition of life, do you consider microorganisms, viruses, plants or rocks alive?

 

[juvenissun]

Give me your definition of life. Don't come in here expecting a decent discussion if you're just going to play silly little games.

I don't expect that.

 

[juvenissun]

If you are claiming that rocks are alive, well, I don't know what you're talking about, but it isn't science.

You may not know. But it IS science. Otherwise, I won't say that.

 

[juvenissun]

The pump cycles water through the filtration system vs basic fluid dynamics moving around the food, oxygen and waste.

EDIT:
Your earlier responses seemed inconsistent. Using your personal definition of life, do you consider microorganisms, viruses, plants or rocks alive?

The swimming pool is not alive because without the circulation, the pool is still a pool.

So, they are all NOT alive according to my definition.