The Fossil Record- As God Would Have Made It Through Time

[Inkfingers]

There couldn't be a more asinine approach to knowledge. You can literally replace "God" with "Dumbledore," and claim it's true because it's true.

I'm not making an argument, just a point.

You can throw evidence at creationists/atheists all day and it will not change their mind.

 

[HitchSlap]

I'm not making an argument, just a point.

You can throw evidence at creationists/atheists all day and it will not change their mind.

Poppycock, it's because of evidence that I accept ToE, and reject creationism. It's because the lack of evidence that I'm atheist.

I don't need faith for either of these positions.

 

[marineimaging]

I'm not impressed by arguments from incredulity.

Whaaat!? An atheist that doesn't believe in our Creator or His Son?!?!? Come on! You have to be kidding me. But seriously, just for a moment. I have often wondered if God would have permitted Satan to "plant" dinosaur evidence. I mean, after all, they are not alive so God would not need to allow Satan to create life. But meanwhile, we get to keep what are otherwise stated to be living fossils such as the coelacanths which scientists were certain to have gone extinct 40 million years ago. And then we still have the frilled shark that is today considered prehistoric, and the alligator and crocodile, both living fossils. And then we still have the apes with absolutely no living evidence of something existing between the two. No, they have not found it, but you believe it I bet. I can put the same samples into a cave as a birth defect human rejected and pushed out by the tribe, but secretly cared for by the mother and father. Nope, there is no half ape half human. Just one or the other.

 

[Jimmy D]

And then we still have the apes with absolutely no living evidence of something existing between the two. No, they have not found it, but you believe it I bet. I can put the same samples into a cave as a birth defect human rejected and pushed out by the tribe, but secretly cared for by the mother and father. Nope, there is no

That’s a new one, I’ll give you that!

 

[HitchSlap]

Whaaat!? An atheist that doesn't believe in our Creator or His Son?!?!? Come on! You have to be kidding me. But seriously, just for a moment. I have often wondered if God would have permitted Satan to "plant" dinosaur evidence. I mean, after all, they are not alive so God would not need to allow Satan to create life. But meanwhile, we get to keep what are otherwise stated to be living fossils such as the coelacanths which scientists were certain to have gone extinct 40 million years ago. And then we still have the frilled shark that is today considered prehistoric, and the alligator and crocodile, both living fossils. And then we still have the apes with absolutely no living evidence of something existing between the two. No, they have not found it, but you believe it I bet. I can put the same samples into a cave as a birth defect human rejected and pushed out by the tribe, but secretly cared for by the mother and father. Nope, there is no half ape half human. Just one or the other.

ToE is a fact. I'm sorry you don't understand it, but that's not my fault, it's yours.

 

[marineimaging]

As for non-believers, if I were a real jokester then I would say "Hey, we need you hanging on to your false science in order to fulfill prophesy in the Bible." But seriously, I do feel sad that you don't know how great it feels to know that our God, our Creator, knows us to Love us. He loves you too but while your rejection saddens Him (and us who strive to be like Christ) there also is this solid, real, factual thing called justice. And justice must be met. It was fulfilled with the Crucifixion of Christ (real man, real God, on a real Cross in a real place and at a real time) on behalf of those who believe. For those of you who don't, you sadly deny yourself the understanding of how deep and pure that love can be felt. How permanent and how wonderful it feels.

 

[marineimaging]

ToE is a fact. I'm sorry you don't understand it, but that's not my fault, it's yours.

No my friend, I was like you once. I was actually worse. I had been raised to believe, then I denied and I did not believe at all. But at one point when I hit the rock bottom I had an encounter with our Lord and I knew I was wrong. And another and another and then I knew that the Bible is real, and that God is real, and that Jesus is real, and none of them are dead. I don't believe. I know!

 

[marineimaging]

It is fact which has given Evolutions a black eye - out of billions of fossils inspected and documented there is not one single sequence/succession that shows Evolution by the fossil record.

Not one sequence showing morphological changes of one lifeform changing into another lifeform.

Again, not one evidence has been found.

What the fossil record does show is how God over time would have made Kinds of lifeforms. The fossil record proves this - since there is not one case of displaying by physical remains of postulated evolution of life forms.

Again, out of billions of fossils not one sequence showing hard physical fact of morphological change of one lifeform changing into another lifeform.

This is called no foundation for Evolution.

The fossil record instead has tantamount evidence in how God would have developed life over time. And their remains we would have physical evidence to display before all.

It is time for bias debaters and believers in Evolution to face up to the obvious. What the fossil record really shows.

Amen. 'you know, I was looking for a scriptural reference which stated that I must convince X (fill in any number from 1 to infinity) evolutionists, deists, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Great White Sharks, or anybody that God is our Creator and Father in Heaven, that Jesus was his only begotten Son, that the Holy Spirit was left behind to help us, that all three are one called the Holy Trinity in order to get a ticket called "Saved". I am still looking, sort of, but so far I am still at a big, fat, zero.

 

[HitchSlap]

No my friend, I was like you once. I was actually worse. I had been raised to believe, then I denied and I did not believe at all. But at one point when I hit the rock bottom I had an encounter with our Lord and I knew I was wrong. And another and another and then I knew that the Bible is real, and that God is real, and that Jesus is real, and none of them are dead. I don't believe. I know!

Yep, religion can be a crutch for some. Nothing unusual about finding a rubric that seemingly helps better your life, and once adopted, we willingly accept things we may know deep down aren't real, but we go along because the alternative of "rock bottom" scares us more than a desire for the truth.

 

[marineimaging]

And then there are those who prefer not to believe in something that can't be seen or have proven in a manner in which they have been raised to practice. I don't know you at all, but one day I pray something will happen to open your eyes because hitting rock bottom was the wrong choice of words. Hitting an absolute in terms of the denial of creation might be mo' better. So, do you have anything of scientific importance that you have discovered yourself? Something real that nobody else knew until you found it? Something you wrote a full paper or book about?

 

[Speedwell]

Amen. 'you know, I was looking for a scriptural reference which stated that I must convince X (fill in any number from 1 to infinity) evolutionists, deists, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Great White Sharks, or anybody that God is our Creator and Father in Heaven, that Jesus was his only begotten Son, that the Holy Spirit was left behind to help us, that all three are one called the Holy Trinity in order to get a ticket called "Saved". I am still looking, sort of, but so far I am still at a big, fat, zero.

That's OK. Many of us "evolutionists" believe it already.

 

[Hank77]

As a machine designer and an employee working on the Superconducting Super Collidor I frequently demanded proof of God, until one day I realized that the scientific world and the spiritual world will never reside side by side in harmony in the conscious thoughts of mankind. If we were spiritually permanent seeking temporary physical existence it would work. But as a temporary physical being seeking permanent spiritual existence with our creator, those two things simply will not thrive in our minds. You can't have it both ways.

This physical world is a reality just as the spiritual world is a reality. That is true. What we believe about the physical world is not the same things that we believe about the spiritual. But we should see God in both.
What is sad is that both atheists and most Christians believe the same lie, that the Bible and science/nature are in conflict with each other.
God never said that or even implied that. He said just the opposite.

 

[marineimaging]

This physical world is a reality just as the spiritual world is a reality. That is true. What we believe about the physical world is not the same things that we believe about the spiritual. But we should see God in both.
What is sad is that both atheists and most Christians believe the same lie, that the Bible and science/nature are in conflict with each other.
God never said that or even implied that. He said just the opposite.

And what I said can be physically true in the Christian world. I do not think that God would have allowed Satan to create life, but I can see God allowing Satan to plant physical evidence in the form of bones and impressions just as he allowed Job to be put through a series of tests. As I said, finding and cataloging evidence of evolution from ancient dinosaurs only began in earnest in the mid 1600's and only a few then. It really picked up in the 1800's as man wanted so desperately to get away from God. Since I don't see any evidence that the Bible can be contradicted by planted evidence and still be true then I can believe it if I wanted to. But then I no longer need any such evidence to know that God exists yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

 

[Hank77]

And what I said can be physically true in the Christian world. I do not think that God would have allowed Satan to create life, but I can see God allowing Satan to plant physical evidence in the form of bones and impressions just as he allowed Job to be put through a series of tests.

Are you saying that when God created the earth satan planted fossils and bones of animals that didn't exist yet?

 

[Speedwell]

Are you saying that when God created the earth satan planted fossils and bones of animals that didn't exist yet?

Devilishly clever fellow, that Satan.

 

[HitchSlap]

Devilishly clever fellow, that Satan.

 

[Brightmoon]

You can throw evidence at creationists/atheists all day and it will not change their mind.

I’ve seen that as far as creationists but atheists usually aren’t that immature

Whaaat!? An atheist that doesn't believe in our Creator or His Son?!?!? Come on! You have to be kidding me. But seriously, just for a moment. I have often wondered if God would have permitted Satan to "plant" dinosaur evidence. I mean, after all, they are not alive so God would not need to allow Satan to create life. But meanwhile, we get to keep what are otherwise stated to be living fossils such as the coelacanths which scientists were certain to have gone extinct 40 million years ago. And then we still have the frilled shark that is today considered prehistoric, and the alligator and crocodile, both living fossils. And then we still have the apes with absolutely no living evidence of something existing between the two. No, they have not found it, but you believe it I bet. I can put the same samples into a cave as a birth defect human rejected and pushed out by the tribe, but secretly cared for by the mother and father. Nope, there is no half ape half human. Just one or the other.

I haven’t seen that “The-devil-put -dem- bones- there argument for literally decades. SMH. By the way , genetics confirmed what “ dem bones “ was telling us all along. That we’re related to all other organisms

 

[Brightmoon]

The arguments for evolution and for God are similar in that despite overwhelming evidence for both there will always be people who refuse to believe in at least one of them.

Well there’s evidence for evolution. But God talks to us as individuals. So there’s no verifiable evidence for God. I’m ok with that mainly because I don’t worship the Bible as if it were a god. I’m familiar with how much editing the historical Bible has undergone

 

[USincognito]

It really picked up in the 1800's as man wanted so desperately to get away from God.

That literally never happened.

 

[marineimaging]

That literally never happened.

Man wanted to follow his lusts and debauchery and believing in God was getting in the way. That is in fact, written in history.