"Nibbler -And so life returned to normal, or as normal as it gets on this primitive dirtball inhabited by psychotic apes."
LOL! But I adore time travel!!
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"The Big Brain am winning again! I am the greetest! Ha-ha-ha-ha. Now I am leaving Earth for no raisin!"
I wouldn't if I was you. You'll only end up with an extremely large headache trying to figure out which timeline is which. I think both characters have fought against themselves at one time.
So a "kind" is an animal at the top of "God's taxon", but you have no idea what God's taxon is. Is that it?
If the FLOOD was indeed tranquil, then it could not be the cause of the geological issues. This is when the problems began. It had nothing to do with real research. It was all logic and opinion. Geologists then when in another direction and the FLOOD was forgotten...
Sounds like GOD's voice had the destructive power of an asteroid blast...
Many other Christian geologists began to promote this idea as well. It was the only way to allow the bible version of events to match up with the reality of the rocks. It was indeed based on research, however. It was only proposed after these geologists looked at the evidence, which falsified Flood geology. Stop trying to rewrite history!They (some) discarded the FLOOD THEORY because they first accepted the TRANQUIL FLOOD THEORY as proposed by Carolus Linnaeus in the late 18th century. A Scottish minister, John Fleming, promoted it to the British public in 1826.
If the FLOOD was indeed tranquil, then it could not be the cause of the geological issues. This is when the problems began. It had nothing to do with real research. It was all logic and opinion. Geologists then when in another direction and the FLOOD was forgotten...
And I respectfully disagree. Other cultures didn't linguistically come about until after the Babel incident, which means that from Genesis 9 to Genesis 11, a period of some 100 years, these other cultures, small as they would be, had the Scriptures.
Well, come now ---- let's be reasonable. I can easily imagine that during the FLOOD there would be stages of both turbulence and relative tranquility. I would say to you that GOD likely kept Noah'a ark out of harms way by socking it other distant areas of the earth. I feel that like the Grand Canyon developed as a result of both the FLOOD, possible rather swift dranage, and thousands of years of erosion. Could the site also have been a target of a meteor or an asteroid at the start of the FLOOD? GOD only knows. What the area looked like before the FLOOD, GOD again only knows . All the rest is speculation based on value judgments of what data is presently available. Could ther have been a terrific earthquake in the area just before, during, and for centuries after the FLOOD.... Again, we may speculate, but the truth may simply have to wait until we meet GOD face to face.Again, here we go:
Here is the Hjulstrom Diagram:
Let's talke "tranquil". CLAY sized particles are very very small. They make up the biggest portion of SHALE.
Please explain to me how a turbulent global flood could be responsible for something like this:
The Hermit Shale in the Grand Canyon.
Explain the iron oxide staining too.
See, you leave it so open that we can't even begin to analyze what you are thinking on this one. Please do us a favor and point to which specific layers are the Flood deposit.
You see, Nipper, we have hundreds and thousands and maybe millions of marine shales all over the world to chose from. Tell us which one it is!
If it's not a marine shale, then is it a TURBIDITE sequence? Which one of the numerous ones in the geologic column?
Please, tell us WHICH ONE IN PARTICULAR!
Do you know how sediments are laid down? Do you know how they are eroded, transported?
Am I providing you with anything to think about? Or is it more important to pray to God no geologist will ever hear what you say?
Please, I am begging you, give us a bone here!
Well, come now ---- let's be reasonable. I can easily imagine that during the FLOOD there would be stages of both turbulence and relative tranquility. I would say to you that GOD likely kept Noah'a ark out of harms way by socking it other distant areas of the earth. I feel that like the Grand Canyon developed as a result of both the FLOOD, possible rather swift dranage, and thousands of years of erosion. Could the site also have been a target of a meteor or an asteroid at the start of the FLOOD? GOD only knows. What the area looked like before the FLOOD, GOD again only knows . All the rest is speculation based on value judgments of what data is presently available. Could ther have been a terrific earthquake in the area just before, during, and for centuries after the FLOOD.... Again, we may speculate, but the truth may simply have to wait until we meet GOD face to face.
I can imagine all sorts of thing, LN. I can imagine that a huge dragon swooped over the Grand Canyon and burn it out with his fiery breathe! Or maybe a race of dwarves carved the canyon out with little pickaxes, and left no evidence of their existence!Well, come now ---- let's be reasonable. I can easily imagine that during the FLOOD there would be stages of both turbulence and relative tranquility. I would say to you that GOD likely kept Noah'a ark out of harms way by socking it other distant areas of the earth. I feel that like the Grand Canyon developed as a result of both the FLOOD, possible rather swift dranage, and thousands of years of erosion. Could the site also have been a target of a meteor or an asteroid at the start of the FLOOD? GOD only knows. What the area looked like before the FLOOD, GOD again only knows . All the rest is speculation based on value judgments of what data is presently available. Could ther have been a terrific earthquake in the area just before, during, and for centuries after the FLOOD.... Again, we may speculate, but the truth may simply have to wait until we meet GOD face to face.
Well, come now ---- let's be reasonable. I can easily imagine that during the FLOOD there would be stages of both turbulence and relative tranquility.
I feel that like the Grand Canyon developed as a result of both the FLOOD, possible rather swift dranage, and thousands of years of erosion.
Could the site also have been a target of a meteor or an asteroid at the start of the FLOOD? GOD only knows.
All the rest is speculation based on value judgments of what data is presently available.
Could ther have been a terrific earthquake in the area just before, during, and for centuries after the FLOOD.... Again, we may speculate, but the truth may simply have to wait until we meet GOD face to face.
I thought that it was Ye Olde Flude.Wrong.
It's, "The FLOOD!".
Well, come now ---- let's be reasonable. I can easily imagine that during the FLOOD there would be stages of both turbulence and relative tranquility.
I would say to you that GOD likely kept Noah'a ark out of harms way by socking it other distant areas
Could the site also have been a target of a meteor or an asteroid at the start of the FLOOD? GOD only knows.
All the rest is speculation based on value judgments of what data is presently available.
All of reality, it seems, is wrong because the Bible literalists claim their book says so.
Why are you so certain that it's not your interperetation of scripture that's wrong? Are you a geocentrist? If not, then you've modified an ancient interperetation of scripture in light of scientific discovery.Only insofar as it contradicts the Scriptures --- that's all.
Why are you so certain that it's not your interperetation of scripture that's wrong? Are you a geocentrist? If not, then you've modified an ancient interperetation of scripture in light of scientific discovery.
Give me one verse that supports geocentricity --- just one.
Bible said:1 Chronicles 16:30tremble before him, all earth; yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.Psalms 93:1The Lord reigns; he is robbed in majesty; the lord is robbed, he is girded with strength. Yea, the world is established; it shall never be moved.Psalms 96:10Say among the nations, "The Lord reigns! Yea, the world is established, it shall never be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity."
Bible said:Joshua 10:12-13
Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the men of Israel; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand thou still at Gibeon, and thou Moon in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
You do realize that scientists taught geocentricity at one time, don't you?
Like Ptolemy.
I realize that we can look at that verse and say, "well, He doesn't literally *mean* that the sun moves" however that is an interperetation of the data filtered through modern scientific discovery (well, modern as compared to the Bible).
Let's take the Joshua passage, then I have a simple question for you:
[bible]Joshua 10:12-13[/bible]
If you looked up into the sky today, and the sun and the moon weren't moving, wouldn't you conclude that it was the earth that stood still?
(I would.)
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