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I meant no offence nor is my post an attempt to weaponize anything. I'm not attacking anything so I don't need weapons.and use it as a weapon against another.
I have never heard any that mentioned the Kingdom of God is within you.I haven't heard any dispensationalist deny that
I meant no offence nor is my post an attempt to weaponize anything. I'm not attacking anything so I don't need weapons.
I don't know much about prophetic matters so I asked a question. The topic of the thread is interesting to me in general after seeing a few videos on similar matters. Nothing more.
All the best to you.
We don't have a lot of details about what the disciples of Jesus were saying at that time, but look at what the Gospels tell us about the teaching of John the Baptist. Considering the praise that Jesus gave to John the Baptist, He must have thought highly of this teaching.
3 In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” 3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
make straight paths for him.’”
4 John’s clothes were made of camel’s hair, and he had a leather belt around his waist. His food was locusts and wild honey. 5 People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan. 6 Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with[c] the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
Matthew 3:1-12 NIV
7 John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 9 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”
10 “What should we do then?” the crowd asked.
11 John answered, “Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same.”
12 Even tax collectors came to be baptized. “Teacher,” they asked, “what should we do?”
13 “Don’t collect any more than you are required to,” he told them.
14 Then some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?”
He replied, “Don’t extort money and don’t accuse people falsely—be content with your pay.”
Luke 3:7-14 NIV
I don't know if that is true or not (no opinion either way),The first dispensationalists were the Irvingites and they taught that the rapture would be on Sunday 14th July 1833
If you click on the verses, they will take you to the bible text.Could you print those out to read in a post?? Thx.
The Scripture is never contradictory , true.I am totally not offended. I didn't mean to suggest I was. All I was trying to convey is that the scriptures cannot contradict themselves, so we have to work in our own minds to harmonize them.
THey didn't. And others likewise on phones sometimes or frequently cannot render them.If you click on the verses, they will take you to the bible text.
The litmus test is the thing. I agree.I must use that as a sort of litmus test when I read the other scriptures which relate to the subject of the kingdom.
No worries at all. Communicating via text is not the best idea at times. Or at other times as well.I did not mean to accuse you of anything, just to supply my reasoning process. Sorry if it felt like a slight.
This is the difficult part. I saw a video last night that implied that all religions seek to limit God's grace and to shape it into their own direction by making attempts to control it so to speak. Such things are man-made. This makes sense to me.is a human method
Regarding a kingdom on earth, what about Revelation 11:15-19 or perhaps Matthew 6:9-13? Do these passages indicate a possibility?
Could you print those out to read in a post?? Thx.
Yes. THanks.You want me to post the actual text of the scriptures? If that's what you mean, I can do that.
I am not sure that they have gone or not, but their charismatic tounges and prophecy carried on for over 100 years. My aunt attended one of their churches in London in the 1920's and 30's. There is a large one of their churches in London called The University Church of Christ the King. I believe it is now an Anglican Church.I don't know if that is true or not (no opinion either way),
but I'm prety sure all the Irvingites are now gone - they all 'disappeared' by now ! One way or another ?
Yes. THanks.
THey didn't. And others likewise on phones sometimes or frequently cannot render them.
A possibility of what ?Regarding a kingdom on earth, what about Revelation 11:15-19 or perhaps Matthew 6:9-13? Do these passages indicate a possibility?
I am not expert in such things so it's best to ask someone else if these verses actually apply ...
9 "Pray then in this way: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. 10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us to the time of trial, but rescue us from the evil one. (Matthew 6:9-13, NRSV)
15 Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign forever and ever." 16 Then the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 singing, "We give you thanks, Lord God Almighty, who are and who were, for you have taken your great power and begun to reign. 18 The nations raged, but your wrath has come, and the time for judging the dead, for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints and all who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying those who destroy the earth." 19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. (Revelation, 11:15-19, NRSV)
To the side-topic of God having a kingdom on earth or not.A possibility of what ? If they apply to what ? >>
All the Scripture is flawlessly Truth, as He has Breathed it, Regardless of what label someone might go by or be under.To the side-topic of God having a kingdom on earth or not.
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