The Falsifiability Criterion

[AV1611VET]

None of those events was base on scientists asserting that a theory was absolute truth.

They don't have to anymore.

It wouldn't mean a thing if they did.

They may not openly assert absolute truth, but they'll treat it like it is.

Tell me ... if science isn't treated as absolute truth, then why was Frances Kelsey ridiculed by her peers?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

They don't have to anymore.

It wouldn't mean a thing if they did.

They may not openly assert absolute truth, but they'll treat it like it is.

Put your money where your mouth is, AV.

Give us an example of such a thing.

And no, thalidomide isn't a theory, it was a drug. You specifically say theory, so give us an example of a theory being treated as absolute truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you saying that Tombaugh did not discover Pluto?

No.

That is a slanderous lie.

From AI Overview:

"Tombaugh's Folly" is not a formal astronomical term, but rather an informal and perhaps somewhat ironic reference to the discovery of Pluto by Clyde Tombaugh in 1930, particularly considering its later reclassification from a planet to a dwarf planet in 2006.

Here's why it might be informally used:

Initial excitement vs. later reality: The discovery of Pluto was a major event in astronomy at the time, hailed as the discovery of a new planet.

Erroneous initial assumptions: The initial search for a "Planet X" was based on calculations of supposed gravitational perturbations in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune. However, it was later discovered that these calculations were based on incorrect assumptions about the mass of the presumed planet. Pluto's actual properties wouldn't have accounted for the supposed perturbations, primarily due to its relatively small mass.

 

[AV1611VET]

Also, Three Mile Island... no-one died ...

They have to die, do they?

From AI Overview:

A peer-reviewed research article by Dr. Steven Wing found a significant increase in cancers between 1979 and 1985 among people who lived within ten miles of TMI.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

They have to die, do they?

It certainly helps qualify something as a disaster, for sure, and especially since the rest of your examples are deaths, which in your typical vulturish fashion you attribute flatly to science with absolutely no nuance or desire to actually know more about them.

 

[BCP1928]

Are you saying that Tombaugh did not discover Pluto?

No.



From AI Overview:

"Tombaugh's Folly" is not a formal astronomical term, but rather an informal and perhaps somewhat ironic reference to the discovery of Pluto by Clyde Tombaugh in 1930, particularly considering its later reclassification from a planet to a dwarf planet in 2006.

Here's why it might be informally used:

Initial excitement vs. later reality: The discovery of Pluto was a major event in astronomy at the time, hailed as the discovery of a new planet.

Erroneous initial assumptions: The initial search for a "Planet X" was based on calculations of supposed gravitational perturbations in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune. However, it was later discovered that these calculations were based on incorrect assumptions about the mass of the presumed planet. Pluto's actual properties wouldn't have accounted for the supposed perturbations, primarily due to its relatively small mass.

Where was the assertion of absolute truth?

 

[AV1611VET]

It really does seem that AV was personally slighted by Pluto being reclassified.

Along with ... well ... read it yourself:

Public reception to the IAU decision was mixed.

A resolution introduced in the California State Assembly facetiously called the IAU decision a "scientific heresy".

The New Mexico House of Representatives passed a resolution in honor of Clyde Tombaugh, the discoverer of Pluto and a longtime resident of that state, that declared that Pluto will always be considered a planet while in New Mexican skies and that March 13, 2007, was Pluto Planet Day.

The Illinois Senate passed a similar resolution in 2009 on the basis that Tombaugh was born in Illinois. The resolution asserted that Pluto was "unfairly downgraded to a 'dwarf' planet" by the IAU."

Some members of the public have also rejected the change, citing the disagreement within the scientific community on the issue, or for sentimental reasons, maintaining that they have always known Pluto as a planet and will continue to do so regardless of the IAU decision.

In 2006, in its 17th annual words-of-the-year vote, the American Dialect Society voted plutoed as the word of the year. To "pluto" is to "demote or devalue someone or something".

In April 2024, Arizona (where Pluto was first discovered in 1930) passed a law naming Pluto as the official state planet.

SOURCE

I'd especially stay out of Arizona and New Mexico, if I were you.

 

[BCP1928]

Along with ... well ... read it yourself:

Public reception to the IAU decision was mixed.

A resolution introduced in the California State Assembly facetiously called the IAU decision a "scientific heresy".

The New Mexico House of Representatives passed a resolution in honor of Clyde Tombaugh, the discoverer of Pluto and a longtime resident of that state, that declared that Pluto will always be considered a planet while in New Mexican skies and that March 13, 2007, was Pluto Planet Day.

The Illinois Senate passed a similar resolution in 2009 on the basis that Tombaugh was born in Illinois. The resolution asserted that Pluto was "unfairly downgraded to a 'dwarf' planet" by the IAU."

Some members of the public have also rejected the change, citing the disagreement within the scientific community on the issue, or for sentimental reasons, maintaining that they have always known Pluto as a planet and will continue to do so regardless of the IAU decision.

In 2006, in its 17th annual words-of-the-year vote, the American Dialect Society voted plutoed as the word of the year. To "pluto" is to "demote or devalue someone or something".

In April 2024, Arizona (where Pluto was first discovered in 1930) passed a law naming Pluto as the official state planet.

SOURCE

I'd especially stay out of Arizona and New Mexico, if I were you.

Where is the scientific assertion of absolute certainty?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Along with ... well ... read it yourself:

Public reception to the IAU decision was mixed.

A resolution introduced in the California State Assembly facetiously called the IAU decision a "scientific heresy".

The New Mexico House of Representatives passed a resolution in honor of Clyde Tombaugh, the discoverer of Pluto and a longtime resident of that state, that declared that Pluto will always be considered a planet while in New Mexican skies and that March 13, 2007, was Pluto Planet Day.

The Illinois Senate passed a similar resolution in 2009 on the basis that Tombaugh was born in Illinois. The resolution asserted that Pluto was "unfairly downgraded to a 'dwarf' planet" by the IAU."

Some members of the public have also rejected the change, citing the disagreement within the scientific community on the issue, or for sentimental reasons, maintaining that they have always known Pluto as a planet and will continue to do so regardless of the IAU decision.

In 2006, in its 17th annual words-of-the-year vote, the American Dialect Society voted plutoed as the word of the year. To "pluto" is to "demote or devalue someone or something".

In April 2024, Arizona (where Pluto was first discovered in 1930) passed a law naming Pluto as the official state planet.

SOURCE

I'd especially stay out of Arizona and New Mexico, if I were you.

And yet it seems that you take the demotion of Pluto as a personal slight because you bring it up every chance you get.

I also don't think I'm going to be tarred and feathered in Arizona or New Mexico for saying that the demotion of Pluto is REALLY that big of a deal since it really changes nothing.

And, once again, you made the claim that scientists treat theories as absolute fact. Please present an example.

 

[AV1611VET]

Put your money where your mouth is, AV.

Give us an example of such a thing.

And no, thalidomide isn't a theory, it was a drug. You specifically say theory, so give us an example of a theory being treated as absolute truth.

You're not reading my posts, are you?

I said they may not openly assert absolute truth, but they'll treat it like it is.

 

[Aaron112]

In April 2024, Arizona (where Pluto was first discovered in 1930) passed a law naming Pluto as the official state planet.

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[AV1611VET]

It certainly helps qualify something as a disaster, for sure, and especially since the rest of your examples are deaths, which in your typical vulturish fashion you attribute flatly to science with absolutely no nuance or desire to actually know more about them.

Interesting word choice you used.

From AI Overview:

Based on the available information, the Florida International University (FIU) footbridge collapse in 2018 can be characterized as a man-made disaster with significant scientific and engineering failures contributing to it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You're not reading my posts, are you?

I said they may not openly assert absolute truth, but they'll treat it like it is.

I read your posts, and I see a lot of claims from you, but zero evidence to back it up.

You say that scientists treat theories as absolute truth. Present evidence for your claim, or stop making it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Interesting word choice you used.

From AI Overview:

Based on the available information, the Florida International University (FIU) footbridge collapse in 2018 can be characterized as a man-made disaster with significant scientific and engineering failures contributing to it.

I don't get your point. I will not say that event wasn't a disaster.

 

[AV1611VET]

Where is the scientific assertion of absolute certainty?

Read my posts please.

 

[AV1611VET]

And yet it seems that you take the demotion of Pluto as a personal slight because you bring it up every chance you get.

Wow.

I'm glad I only have a handful to choose from.

Get out there and make more mistakes, if your attitude is "variety is the spice of life."

I also don't think I'm going to be tarred and feathered in Arizona or New Mexico for saying that the demotion of Pluto is REALLY that big of a deal since it really changes nothing.

No, but I wouldn't want you getting hives or something once a year in New Mexico on March 13th.

And, once again, you made the claim that scientists treat theories as absolute fact. Please present an example.

Read my posts please.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Wow.

I'm glad I only have a handful to choose from.

Get out there and make more mistakes, if you're attitude is "variety is the spice of life."



No, but I wouldn't want you getting hives or something once a year in New Mexico on March 13th.

Oh what an adult you are....

Read my posts please.

Even if you say that they don't do it openly, which is a WONDERFULLY transparent example of you giving yourself an exit ("Oh, but I didn't say they did it openly!"), you're still making the claim that scientists treat theories as absolute. That is your claim, and thus you need to present evidence for it or stop making the claim.

Put up or shut up.

 

[BCP1928]

You're not reading my posts, are you?

I said they may not openly assert absolute truth, but they'll treat it like it is.

No, they just treat it like the truest thing around at the time--which is not the same as absolute truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

I read your posts, and I see a lot of claims from you, but zero evidence to back it up.

You say that scientists treat theories as absolute truth. Present evidence for your claim, or stop making it.

Mamma mia.

Read their body language.

Ridiculing Frances Kelsey, rigging a vote in the IAU, applying for safety waivers for the Deepwater Horizon, saying GO WITH THROTTLE-UP.

Get a clue, chief Warden.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Mamma mia.

Read their body language.

Ridiculing Frances Kelsey, rigging a vote in the IAU, applying for safety waivers for the Deepwater Horizon, saying GO WITH THROTTLE-UP.

Get a clue, chief Warden.

That's not evidence, that's you making a claim.

You clearly cannot present evidence for your claim, thus it is falsified as nothing more than a delusional claim. You cannot put up, so you should (at long last) shut up.