Your response...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ There is no such thing as endless annihilationism.
Annihilationism is not endless. I do not know what your talking about here sorry.But according to you there is such a thing as absolute conditionalism?
CONCLUSION: 2 THESSALONIANS shows God's vengence to the unrepentant wicked is eternal destruction from the presence of the Lord at the when? Yep SECOND COMING v7 and v9. That wasn't so hard now was it?
Your welcome.
I think I am going to give up responding to you as you do not read my posts. You do not address the content in my posts that prove why your in error and all your doing is cuting and pasting the same content over and over. So from now on if you post the same content that has already been addressed and you ignore it. Please do not expect me to chase my posts up to you. If I do not repond to you now you know why. Responded to this already like like your other repititions. See post # 1420 linked. Please do not expect me to chase up posts that have already been addressed in the future. If someone has spent the time responding to you please show some courtesy in responding back instead of cut and paste repitition. It is you that has not responded by ignorin the scriptures and content of the posts shared with you. I do not mind you disagreeing with anything I have been sharing with you but at the very least if you disagree perhaps you can show why like I do for you?
Hope this is helpful
DITTO" already address a number of times already your just repeating yourself again. How about you answer my reply? Most recent one to ROMANS 5:18-19 here linked. The last section of this your post here is only filller and not relevant to anyones argument accept your claims
"It is significant, and even astounding, that justification is here said to be world-embracing. Nothing is said about faith as a prerequisite for justification to be effective, nor about faith's accepting it."
Which was also answered in another post attached to ROMANS 5:18-19 that you can go and chase up. As it is simply a claim divorced from the rest of the bible as there is no justification without faith in God's Word see EPEHSIANS 2:8-9; ROMANS 14:23 and JOHN 3:16-21.
Please stop the repitition and read and address my posts if you disagree show why like I do for you.
What this has to do with what you are quoting from I have no idea? All the scriptures you have provided here have already been addressed in detail proving context and showing that the application your making to the wicked being saved is in error. I think you may have gone overboard on this website cut and paste stuff dear friend. How about a dicussion? How does anthing you have posted here prove that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming? It doesnt. Give me your best scripture and let's discuss the detail. What have you got to lose if you believe you have the truth? Something to think about. All you are doing is what I have shown to you in nearly everyone post of yours I have responded to and that is to take the scriptures out of their context to try and claim that the scriptures that are to talking about the saved are in reference to the wicked. Fact is every time I have addressed your post the context proves you wrong. Instead of responding all you do is cut and paste and repeat yourself without addressing the content in the posts shared with you.
Your cutting and pasting your repitition again. Already addressed and answered in detail here linked. Your just repeating yourself while ignoring my post to you. Goodness I am kind of getting tired of this to be honest dear friend. It seems your not here for a discussion at all.
Your repetition cut and paste again without addressing the content in my post to you again. Already answered here linked. I have addressed your above cut and paste post here more than once now. So will not be doing it agan.
Nonsense. Your just repeating yourself again. LAMANTATIONS 3 was addressed in detail showing the context you left out that proves why your interpretation of the scriptures is in error. I am not bothered with this until you try addressing my post that proves why your in error by ignoreing context.
Your claims here have been clearly refurted already in a post you have not even bothered to read or address. I have shown you already the context you left out of these scriptures that prove that LAMENTATIONS is in regards to ISRAEL'S (God's peoples) punishments for sin. Why you continue to ignore this is beyond me. As shown earlier through the scriptures....
Sorry dear friend but LAMENTATIONS 3 is over ISRAELS afflictions (God's poeple) for departing from God and sinning against him and returning to God in repentance. Context matter dear friend. Your leaving it off again...
[26], It is good that a man should both hope and quietly WAIT FOR THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.
[27], It is good for a man that he bear the yoke of his youth.
[28], He sits alone and keeps silence, because he has borne it on him.
[29], He puts his mouth in the dust; if so be there may be hope.
[30], He gives his cheek to him that smites him: he is filled full with reproach.
[31], FOR THE LORD WILL NOT CAST OFF FOR EVER:
[39], WHY DOES A LIVING MAN COMPLAIN, A MAN FOR THE PUNISHMENT OF HIS SINS?
[40], LET US SEARCH AND TRY OUR WAYS, AND TURN AGAIN TO THE LORD.
[41], LET US LIFT UP OUR HEART WITH OUR HANDS TO GOD IN THE HEAVENS.
[42], WE HAVE TRANSGRESSED AND HAVE REBELLED: YOU HAVE NOT PARDONED.
Detailed scripture response already provided here linked
Hope this helps
No thanks dear Fine. There is no second chances with the gambling lady of second chances. God is calling us away from the polluted waters of broen cisterns. To the living waters of eternal life.
Your response...
Annihilationism is not endless. I do not know what your talking about here sorry.
Nothing in this post you have provided here says that the wicked will receive everlasting life at the second coming
You know that is not true. I've addessed your failed "proof texts" here:
Heb.10:26:
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Heb.10:27:
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Matthew 25:41:
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
2 Thess.1:9
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Rev.21:7-8:
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Matthew 22:14:
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Rev. 22:11:
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
And these are a few of those you haven't addressed:
1 Cor 15:22-28
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Eccl 1:13
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Lam 3:31-33
THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF UNIVERSALISM - BEWARE!
Where is the scripture that teaches that God does not hold us accountable for known unrepentant sin?
UNIVERSALISM makes a mockery of the death of JESUS.
Yet UNIVERSALISM cannot see this because it denies Gods love revealed in God's justice and judgement for sin.
You know exactly what Shrewd is talking about!
The ghastly dogma of unending evil has five (5) very important foundations.
1. It teaches evil that has no end.
2. It points to a victorious devil.
3. It points to a God who fails as the Author & Finisher, with evil finally triumphant over God.
4. It teaches unending chaos forever and ever.
5. It is NOT afraid to call this ghastly scene the triumph of the Lord Jesus Christ!
"All in all" > > > becomes > > > all in some.
Yep true.
No. Death is destroyed is the last thing destroyed with the unrepentant wicked *1 CORINTHIANS 15:25-26.
No. Your confused here dear friend. The righteouss saints that are dead in Christ are resurrected at the second coming *THESSALONIANS 4:14-18 while the wicked that are alive at the second coming are killed by the brightness of his coming * 2 THESSALONIANS 2:8 and await the resurrection of condemnation (second resurrection) and the second death *REVELATION 20:6. All Christs enemies are put under his feet at the second coming. At this time the saints reign with Christ 1000 years *REVELATION 20:2-15 and at the end of this reign the unrepentant wicked dead are resurrected (second resurrection of condemnation *JOHN 5:28-29) to receive the judgement of the wicked and the second death in the lake of fire. At that time all the wicked are destroyed as is death itself and the devil and his angels *REVELATION 20:14; REVELATION 21:8; MATTHEW 25:31-41. No where does it say in the scriptures you provided that the wicked are living together with the saints at the second coming.
See above the Kings of the earth in REVELATION 21:24 are the righteous KINGS, the saved and those who took part in the first resurrection. V24.. the nations of them which are saved..
see also v27 there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defiles, neither whatever works abomination, or makes a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
For Gods saints. Those who took part in the first resurrection.
1 CORINTHIANS 15:28 is in relation to the enemies of JESUS being under his feet in sujection to him.
Hmm what?
Nonsense. The second death is eternal.
Now they reap the wages of their sins which is DEATH because they rejected the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23
Yes, a parable. Your point here? How does this parable show that the unrepentant wicked receive everlasting life after the second coming?
Yep so? What is your point?
All repitition again you have already posted in about 4-5 other placed that has already been addressed that is still waiting for a response from you. The lattest one I think is here linked.
Do you have something to share accept repitition and cut and paste over and over dear friend?
Says who?
Someone that beleves, promotes and teaches Universalism who cannot provide a single scripture that says that the unrepentant wicked receive eternal life after the second coming when the scriptures directly teach that the unrepentant wicked are destroyed and receive the second death after the second coming of JESUS?
The teachings of Universalism denys God's justice and judgement not me.
This is where I see God's love to all mankind in sending His only begotten son that whoshoer believes on his shall not perish but have everlasting life.
XYZ said:John made it clear that Jesus came to save the world, but that everyone that does not believe on Him are condemned instead of saved because their deeds are evil.
[BOX]John 3:14-19[/BOX]
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
The teachings of Universalism denies God's justice and judgement for sin. This is where it makes a mockery of the cross and counts the blood of the covenant an unholy thing doing dispite to the Spirit of grace *HEBREWS 10:26-39 claiming that the wicked get a free pass and can continue in known unrepentant sins for which JESUS died and receive eternal life without accepting God's gift of grace through faith.
Yes you do. You believe that the unrepentant wicked are saved after the second coming do you not?
Or you believe that God tortures them in the lake of fire until they repent and agree to follow him and receive everlasting life right? That is not the loving God I know from the bible.
How are the unrepentant wicked saved in your view after the second coming?
Universalism has no scripture to claim that the unrepentant wicked are saved after the second coming. This teaching is simply unbiblical as demonstrated throughout this thread.
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