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The explanatory power of evolution

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I disagree.
How did people justify abortion before there was a theory of evolution?

Why don't the Catholics use the theory of evolution to justify it now?
 
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How did people justify abortion before there was a theory of evolution?
I don't know. They probably invented some god to sacrifice their [unborn] child to, then removed (aborted) him for placement on the altar.
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Why don't the Catholics use the theory of evolution to justify it now?
I don't know how the Catholics justify abortion.

Abortion is murder.
 
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I had a close friend of my parents' who was a New Zealand soldier in the Western Desert in World War II, and he says that it was a common expression among the soldiers there. He says that it was amazing how professing atheists started calling on God to protect them when the German bombers came over and the artillery shells landed all around them.
It's not that surprising. Under such stresses people can become irrational, or like children; when you're ultimately desperate you'll appeal to any powerful archetype you're familiar with - many grown men cried for their mother, and some atheists raised in theism would pray to God. It's the kind of thing that happens when the veneer of rationality is blown away by immediate existential crisis.

Incidentally, the horrors of war have also caused some God believers to question or reject their beliefs.
 
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I I don't know how the Catholics justify abortion.

That's my point: they don't justify abortion. They're dead set against it, just like you.

But they also accept the theory of evolution, which you claim inevitably causes people to approve of abortion.

How do you explain that?
 
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How do you explain that?
Freewill.

Here's my point:

In the old days, if a person wanted to get an abortion, she had to do it "in the back alley."

This is as it should be.

Then along come scientists, who pluto "child in the womb" to "fetus".

The result?

Abortion without conviction.
 
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You do know that abortion has existed in one form or another for thousands of years, right?

Think about it.
Right.

And if it's done, it should be done illegally.

Think about it.
 
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Right.

And if it's done, it should be done illegally.

Ah, so we are playing the non-sequitur game.

Anyway, Roe vs Wade had something to say about the illegality of the practice (in the US at least), so I'm sure you can loop up the history on that.
 
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Freewill.

Here's my point:

In the old days, if a person wanted to get an abortion, she had to do it "in the back alley."

This is as it should be.

Then along come scientists, who pluto "child in the womb" to "fetus".

The result?

Abortion without conviction.
what has that to do with evolution causing abortion? Now you are changing your tune? It's scientists who cause abortion by changing the classification of Pluto?
 
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It's scientists who cause abortion by changing the classification of Pluto?

No, no, don't you see? It's so obvious. Scientists created evolution so they could legalize abortion, thereby aborting all those who would have voted to keep Pluto a planet. It's so perfectly sinister, it has to be true.

It's all about Pluto in the end.
 
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what has that to do with evolution causing abortion?
Injecting cause-and-effect into this now?

Here's what I initially said:
Evolution allows people to do things without conviction.

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And I reiterated it here:
Then along come scientists, who pluto "child in the womb" to "fetus".

The result?

Abortion without conviction.
Downgrading "child in the womb" to "fetus" has resulted in the removal of conviction on the part of those sitting on the fence.

I didn't say a word about it causing abortions.

It facilitates them.
 
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Injecting cause-and-effect into this now?

Here's what I initially said:


And I reiterated it here:
Downgrading "child in the womb" to "fetus" has resulted in the removal of conviction on the part of those sitting on the fence.
Not everybody is as caught up with names as you are. Most of us know they are just names and don't have an effect on reality.
 
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It's all about Pluto in the end.
Hey, academician, do you know what the American Dialect Society's word-of-the-year is for 2006, and what it means?
 
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Hey, academician, do you know what the American Dialect Society's word-of-the-year is for 2006, and what it means?
Yes, it it did not change or effect Pluto in any way.
 
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Not everybody is as caught up with names as you are. Most of us know they are just names and don't have an effect on reality.
I have no idea what you just said.

Set your education aside and talk to me like I'm a proletarian please.
 
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What does Pluto have to do with this?
I don't know; you brought it up.

Something to do with the theory of evolution causing evolutionary biologists to change the name of a child in the womb from "baby" to "fetus" which forces people to want to have abortions, just like they changed the classification of Pluto, but I don't remember what that was supposed to force people to do.
 
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Downgrading "child in the womb" to "fetus" has resulted in the removal of conviction on the part of those sitting on the fence.

Which still has absolutely nothing to do with the science of evolution.

So again, are you going trying to win an award for the most number of non sequiturs in a thread?
 
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