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The Exodus

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Did the Exodus really happen? I've read article both pro and con, and shades in between. Are there any good scholarly articles that support the Biblical account, or at least show its reasonably possible?

I am sure there are scholarly articles written by professors in seminary schools. Do you count them as scholars? Or one has to be an atheist to be a scholar?
 
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There is zero evidence to support that an event the size and scope of the exodus described in the OT ever occurred. It's generally held to be myth at this point.

I don't know it for sure. But same to you, I can easily say:
There is zero evidence to say it did not happen.
 
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There is zero evidence to support that an event the size and scope of the exodus described in the OT ever occurred. It's generally held to be myth at this point.
Generally held by whom?
 
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So, please tell me one evidence that Exodus never happened.
You just answered your own question, there's no archaeological evidence it ever happened.

Anthropologists have looked at known, real historical cultures, and using those metrics to determine whether they existed or not, are applied to the exodus story in the OT, there simply isn't any evidence. Not even a little. To suggest that approx. 6,000,000 Israelite's lived in a ten square mile of desert, for forty years, would, according to anthropologists / archaeologists - the ones who study these things - have concluded that the story as told in the OT never occurred. There is not one contemporary historical corroboration of these events either. It's been suggested that if 6,000,000 Israelite's were to stand shoulder to shoulder, they would have found their way out of the wilderness. So as one begins to look at the mundane details of this story, it quickly falls apart. In fact, the Israeli government sponsored an official archaeological investigation into the exodus story, and they had to cancel it because there was no evidence to be found.

From Wiki:

The historicity of the exodus continues to attract popular attention, but most histories of ancient Israel no longer consider information about it recoverable or even relevant to the story of Israel's emergence.[4] The archeological evidence does not support the story told in the Book of Exodus[5] and most archaeologists have therefore abandoned the investigation of Moses and the Exodus as "a fruitless pursuit".[6] The opinion of the overwhelming majority of modern biblical scholars is that the exodus story was shaped into its final present form in the post-Exilic period,[7] although the traditions behind it are older and can be traced in the writings of the 8th century BCE prophets.[8] How far beyond that the tradition might stretch cannot be told: "Presumably an original Exodus story lies hidden somewhere inside all the later revisions and alterations, but centuries of transmission have long obscured its presence, and its substance, accuracy and date are now difficult to determine."[3]
 
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You just answered your own question, there's no archaeological evidence it ever happened.

You said you know evidence that they never existed. So far, I haven't read anything from you yet. No trace for 6 million people. What trace are you talking about?
 
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The kind archaeologists would expect from 6 million people living for forty years in a ten square mile patch of desert.

There is none.

What do they expect to find?
And I think the archaeologist must be very very dumb to think the area is only 10 sq mi.

And, this IS the evidence you know? :tutu:
 
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So, please tell me one evidence that Exodus never happened.

I'ld say that a good piece evidence against the exodus story is the fact that withing the timeframes that this event supposedly took place, there isn't a single shred of evidence or sign of chaos or civil unrest in Egypt at around the same time.

The plagues and the leaving of a massive amount of slaves would have seriously destabilised Egypt. But there is no sign of this at all. In fact, it seems like the opposite is true. In this timeframe, Egypt prospered, expanded and mounted effective military campaigns on both land and sea.

None of its enemies seem to have recorded such humilation either.

In short: this story only exists in the religious scriptures.
 
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I'ld say that a good piece evidence against the exodus story is the fact that withing the timeframes that this event supposedly took place, there isn't a single shred of evidence or sign of chaos or civil unrest in Egypt at around the same time.

The plagues and the leaving of a massive amount of slaves would have seriously destabilised Egypt. But there is no sign of this at all. In fact, it seems like the opposite is true. In this timeframe, Egypt prospered, expanded and mounted effective military campaigns on both land and sea.

None of its enemies seem to have recorded such humilation either.

In short: this story only exists in the religious scriptures.

Did Jews live in Egypt before?
 
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