The existence of God!

[CrystalDragon]

God obviously created mankind with free will. God could have created mankind to be like robots, completely obedient, loving, and good. However, he obviously didn't.

God interfered with free will at various points in the Bible, like gardening Pharaoh's heart. How do we know we aren't just given the illusion of free will? After all, it's said that God controls everything....

 

[nChrist]

God interfered with free will at various points in the Bible, like gardening Pharaoh's heart. How do we know we aren't just given the illusion of free will? After all, it's said that God controls everything....

Maybe you are a figment of your own imagination.

 

[CrystalDragon]

Maybe you are a figment of your own imagination.

Maybe I am. Or maybe all you guys are all figments of my imagination and I'm the only one who actually exists, and this is all a Matrix-type simulation.

 

[CrystalDragon]

The argument I presented shows that God does not exist. A man without the free will to rape women would not be a robot, disobedient to God, or unloving of God. An all-powerful perfectly moral creator would not endow men with the free will to rape women and so men would never rape women. But some men do rape women. Therefore, an all-powerful perfectly moral creator, i.e. God, does not and cannot exist! You have not yet found a critical error or flaw in my argument.

Those on this forum who agree that my argument is a good one, I'd like to hear from you too! I am trying to help the doubter make up his mind.

I have some things I could say in response to all this (especially since I've been having my own doubts on things lately), but I'll get back to this a bit later.

 

[nChrist]

The argument I presented shows that God does not exist. A man without the free will to rape women would not be a robot, disobedient to God, or unloving of God. An all-powerful perfectly moral creator would not endow men with the free will to rape women and so men would never rape women. But some men do rape women. Therefore, an all-powerful perfectly moral creator, i.e. God, does not and cannot exist! You have not yet found a critical error or flaw in my argument.

Those on this forum who agree that my argument is a good one, I'd like to hear from you too! I am trying to help the doubter make up his mind.

You don't have an argument at all.

Psalms 14:1 KJV The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

 

[1watchman]

Thanks for your replying. I am in a serious discussion with God about if He is real or not. This may only be a season of my life and I may get out of it yet why does God just stay silent in our world.

It may very well be that God will not answer you, for He requires faith, and faith does not challenge the Creator-God. If you will not accept His Word to this condemned world, that will be the very thing which closes the door to eternal life ---Satan is very clever with his deceptions.

Consider that the Creator wants to "seek and to save that which is lost", as He says, but it must be on the ground of faith in His immutable Word. He could never expect us to obey and honor Him if we did not have His Word to us ----right? You are refusing faith, so you may end up the loser. Do you have a better word of eternal salvation that is dependable???

Try reading the Bible and thanking God for His mercies. I recommend you first see the overview in John 1; John 3: John 14, etc.; and come to know and receive the Savior in Jesus, the Christ of God for man. You can write me at my profile on CF: Conversation, if you wish to talk further.

 

[nChrist]

We wouldn't need ANY laws if God had created mankind as good and obedient robots. Instead, God created mankind with free will, and many men do evil things. It's just this simple.