EternalDragon
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Trying to explain the evidence away, eh?
These are not experiences described in the bible or
from history. They are all unique and defy explanation.
I would maybe call them paranormal.
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Christians know what they should see, hear, feel, from reading the bible and from history, so similar delusional experiences isn't at all strange.
Trying to explain the evidence away, eh?
These are not experiences described in the bible or
from history. They are all unique and defy explanation.
I would maybe call them paranormal.
Explanation: humans have emotional experiences and ascribe supernatural meanings to them because they are infrequent occurrences. The effects on humans can be measured and the findings are not unique to any one ethnicity or religious group.
You have yet to describe an emotional event in spiritual terms. Please give an example of a spiritual experience... for the third time.
So then Christians believe in a delusion that has been reported by eyewitnesses as their own delusion? It's a delusion within a delusion?
What if we also have experiences similar to their delusions? Like encounters with spiritual entities that can't be explained?
Wait, are you calling Christians (or anyone that has faith in a God) delusional?
Ready when you are.
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Yes, people having emotional experiences happens quite frequently. So what? How do you know it was a supernatural spirit that was responsible for it?
These are just assertions. We're asking for actual objective evidence that your god/s exist.I have independent objective evidence in the reason and logic that we use to debate here. Logic and reason if left to naturalistic origins renders them both to subjective relativity. I have independent objective evidence in the fact that the universe is uniform and intelligible to us. I have evidence that speaks to human dignity and personal identity which transcends naturalistic cause and effect.
I have objective evidence in that the universe reflects the intelligence behind it. I see intelligence in the simplest forms of life. I observe Biblical predictions that can be proven in the the outcomes.
I have independent objective evidence when I have prayed and others see the visual result with me.
I see independent objective evidence in all of your denials.
Are you saying that those who experience deities other than your god are delusional? What about the thousands of other gods that people have believed in through the ages? All delusions?
Wasn't what, pink fairies?
These are just assertions. We're asking for actual objective evidence that your god/s exist.
Ok, well that is a constructive and intelligent response.
No they are not just assertions. We know that logic exists, we know that reason exists. We can prove that objectively. We know that the universe is uniform and intelligible, we have evidence to show that.
All those things I list can be shown to be in evidence.
Then you've missed the point entirely. It's not up to me to prove they weren't, but it's up to you to prove they were. And while you're at it, maybe you could define "spiritual" before you prove they were real experiences?
Therefore evidence for God.
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