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Can someone explain the bolded part to me please?IronPillar said:"The earth is utterly broken, the earth is rent asunder, the earth is violently shaken. The earth staggers like a drunken man, it sways like a hut; its transgression lies heavy upon it, and it falls, and will not rise again. On that day the LORD will punish the host of heaven, in heaven, and the kings of the earth, on the earth."
Isaiah;24:19-21
They will say to the mountains, "Cover us!" And to the hills, " Fall on us!" Hosea ;10 :8
Is that a nuclear holocost? Melted is what happened to the people living in Horishima.LittleLambofJesus said:Malachi 4:1 "For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up,"
Ezekiel 22:19 "Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: 'Because you have all become dross, therefore behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem. 20 '[As men] gather silver, bronze, iron, lead, and tin into the midst of a furnace, to blow fire on it, to melt [it;] so I will gather [you] in My anger and in My fury, and I will leave [you there] and melt you. 21 'Yes, I will gather you and blow on you with the fire of My wrath, and you shall be melted in its midst.
Abdurrahim said:......
Some of the hadith and Surahs about the end times:
One hadith indicates that the absence of the shame of prostitution is a sign of the Last Day.
There will be prevalence of open illegal sexual intercourse. (Bukhari)
The Prophet (saas) says that the spread of extra-marital sexual relationships in society is a sign:
The Hour will come when adultery becomes widespread. (Al-Haythami, Kitab al-Fitan)
The Last Hour will not be established until they (wicked people) commit adultery on the roads (public ways). (Ibn Hibban and Bazzar)
Men will imitate women; and Women will imitate men. (Allama Jalaluddin Suyuti, Durre-Mansoor)
People will indulge in homosexuality and lesbianism. (Al-Muttaqi Al-Hindi, Muntakhab Kanzul Ummaal
Divorces will be a daily occurrence.('Allamah Safarini, Ahwal Yaum al-Qiyamah)
There will be an abundance of illegitimate children.(Al-Muttaqi Al-Hindi, Muntakhab Kanzul Ummaal)
As Judgment draws near ... the most respected people of the age will be lickspittles and sycophants. (Agreed upon)
The Last Hour will not arrive till people come forth who make a living with their tongues as cows eat with their tongues. (Tirmidhi
Deceit and cheating will be common, ('Allamah Safarini, Ahwal Yaum al-Qiyamah)
Bribes will be called gifts, and will be considered lawful. (Amal al-Din al-Qazwini, Mufid al-'ulum wa-mubid al-humum)
The Prophet (saas) describes the increase of murder in the End Times in these words:
The Hour (Last Day) will not be established until murder will increase. (Bukhari )
This voice will spread over the entire world, and every tribe will hear it in their
own language. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-Zaman)
A voice from the sky that everyone will hear in his own language. (Al-Muttaqi
al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-Zaman)
Because it's important to test the bible views against the koran's view. That's what the OP is trying to do here. And the moslims know of the end hour that is to come. I think the OP is trying to gather common ground to share the coming of Jesus, not about worrying? Who said anything about worrying?Globalnomad said:Why are we so worried about end times? We know they will come, nobody knows when; we know they will be awful, but I doubt that they would be more awful, to any of us personally, than a battle with lung cancer or having to watch our children starve to death because of drought - both very common occurrences in the world tody, that nobody thinks too much about.
The only thing that matters to any of us is to live TODAY according to God's law. Why worry about all the rest?
Copied from the bible bro. Sorry to deflate your balloon. 90 percent of those prophecies are also fulfilled in the bible mate.Abdurrahim said:If you check my post you will see %90 percent of the prophecies of the Quran and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) are fulfilled.
Salaam
Thing is you're too American-centric mate, u only think the world consists of America. To put basketball as an analogy well . I think this forum is aussie run.LittleLambofJesus said:This was a prophecy made over here on the eschatology board. I actually invited them over so we could form a game called "Muslim Eschatology" vs Christian Eschatology. That would be fun.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2865338-prophecy-coming-true.html
Prophecy coming true?
I was reading Rev. 13 today:
Revelation 13:2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Then I saw the teams for the NCAA Final Four:
LSU Tigers
UCLA Bruins
Florida Gators
GMU Patriots
Think about it:
like unto a leopard" - that's the Tigers
"feet of a bear" - the Bruins
"the dragon" - Gators
"power...great authority" - that's George Mason University (named after one of the Founding Fathers) Patriots.
Somehow this all links up. I wasn't sure about it until I looked at Rev. 11:
Revelation 11:2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Basketball is played on a court! Every year millions engage in the false idol worship of the NCAA basketball tournament and even bet on it. Scripture says--clear as a bell--that we must not "measure" the court, meaning betting on or even picking teams. The entire tournament is outside the Temple of the New Jerusalem.
mallowpuff said:Can someone explain the bolded part to me please?
Ephesians tells us how despite the enemy trying to constantly accuse us and cause us to sin... GOD has given us tools to fight the enemyJob 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 And the Lord said to Satan, "From where do you come?" So Satan answered the Lord and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."
Revelation 12 describes how Satan and his demonic following get thrown out of heaven for good -- they no longer have access to go before GOD and accuse us of sin so they go directly to the earth and try to destroy manEphesians 3:8 To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; 10 to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, 11 according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord, 12 in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in Him. 13 Therefore I ask that you do not lose heart at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.
Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints--
Revelation 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
Malachi 4:1 "For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up,"
Ezekiel 22:19 "Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: 'Because you have all become dross, therefore behold, I will gather you into the midst of Jerusalem. 20 '[As men] gather silver, bronze, iron, lead, and tin into the midst of a furnace, to blow fire on it, to melt [it;] so I will gather [you] in My anger and in My fury, and I will leave [you there] and melt you. 21 'Yes, I will gather you and blow on you with the fire of My wrath, and you shall be melted in its midst.
Is that a nuclear holocost? Melted is what happened to the people living in Horishima.
"The earth is utterly broken, the earth is rent asunder, the earth is violently shaken. The earth staggers like a drunken man, it sways like a hut; its transgression lies heavy upon it, and it falls, and will not rise again. On that day the LORD will punish the host of heaven, in heaven, and the kings of the earth, on the earth."
Isaiah;24:19-21
They will say to the mountains, "Cover us!" And to the hills, " Fall on us!" Hosea ;10 :8
It sounds like it was the end of the OC Jewish Nation a Jesus prophecied. I believe their temple and city was destroyed by Divine intervention or else these are False Prophecies. Thoughts? Peace.Can someone explain the bolded part to me please?
It sounds like it was the end of the OC Jewish Nation a Jesus prophecied. I believe their temple and city was destroyed by Divine intervention or else these are False Prophecies. Thoughts? Peace.
Luke 21:22 "For these are the Days of Vengeance, that ALL Things which are Written may be Fulfilled.
1 Peter 4:7 But the End of ALL things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers.
Lamentations 2:1 How the Lord has covered the daughter of Zion With a cloud in His anger! He cast down from heaven to the earth The beauty of Israel, And did not remember His footstool In the day of His anger.
This is why I am asking the muslims about those verses.Humans have this notion that at some distant point in the future (Maybe in their lifetime) the system of things as we know it will come to a climatic end. Christians especially are waiting on the end. People have a hope that their miserable lives will be transformed from this life they assume is filled with with sin and sorrow. In fact all cultures seem to share in this same idea that their God will wage war against the powers of darkness and that their God will defeat the enemy and bliss and happiness will come fourth in the new world.
But in the real world we live in this is just a "Fantasy Island" we hope for.
I have heard so many times "This is the time when Jesus will return" According to the bible itself the early "Apostles" were also waiting for this appearing and end of the age. Paul stated that It's better not to marry for the end is coming soon. "Watch for you neither know the hour or the day" If one were to take the New Testament Literally they would be insane, If one were to take the Old Testament Literally they would be a criminal.
Acts 1:6 Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?"
Does Muhammad mention the book of Daniel btw?Wolves will give readings in the End Times. Let those who come to see those times seek shelter from their evil in Allah. They will be very corrupt people. Hypocrisy will prevail, and nobody will be ashamed of it and its manifestations. (Tirmidhi, Nawadir al-'usul)
There will appear in latter times a people who will gain this world with the help of religion. (Tirmidhi)
Does he mention Michael standing up or the blood of the Lamb anywhere?Adeeb said:Sme interesting signs I found from hadith, Abdrurrahim covered most of them.
1) Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time. Could refer to airplanes, trains, or other modes of travel.
2) People will hop between the clouds and the earth. Another possible reference to planes
3) The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans). Could refer to the sanctions placed on Iraq during the 90s.
4) People will dance late into the night. Could refer to night clubs, parties, bars, etc.
5) A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home. Quite possible a reference to cell phones?
LittleLambofJesus said:Does he mention Micael standing up or the blood of the Lamb anywhere?
Daniel 12:1 "At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands [watch] over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, [Even] to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book.
Revelation 7:14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
1 Peter 1:19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.
Does he mention Michael standing up or the blood of the Lamb anywhere?
Daniel 12 is about Daniel's people and sons of his people, so it would probably concern Israel somehow. I believe I know what the "Dragon" is symbolizing but I would rather not say unless you are curious on my view of it. Pretty neat, huh? Peace.Adeeb said:
Souns interestin Adeeb. Can you show me where in the koran those refs are found?Adeeb said:Sme interesting signs I found from hadith, Abdrurrahim covered most of them.
1) Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time. Could refer to airplanes, trains, or other modes of travel.
2) People will hop between the clouds and the earth. Another possible reference to planes
3) The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans). Could refer to the sanctions placed on Iraq during the 90s.
4) People will dance late into the night. Could refer to night clubs, parties, bars, etc.
5) A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home. Quite possible a reference to cell phones?
who and what is the dragon? Is that China?LittleLambofJesus said:Daniel 12 is about Daniel's people and sons of his people, so it would probably concern Israel somehow. I believe I know what the "Dragon" is symbolizing but I would rather not say unless you are curious on my view of it. Pretty neat, huh? Peace.
Reve 12:7 And there came war in the heaven; Michael and his messengers did war against the dragon, and the dragon did war, and his messengers, 8 and they did not prevail, nor was their place found any more in the heaven;
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