The End Time Events ! What Will Happen ?

[elijah115]

This thread seems like something that should be posted in the GT not NCF.

 

[Globalnomad]

Why are we so worried about end times? We know they will come, nobody knows when; we know they will be awful, but I doubt that they would be more awful, to any of us personally, than a battle with lung cancer or having to watch our children starve to death because of drought - both very common occurrences in the world tody, that nobody thinks too much about.

The only thing that matters to any of us is to live TODAY according to God's law. Why worry about all the rest?

 

[Abdurrahim]

If you check my post you will see %90 percent of the prophecies of the Quran and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) are fulfilled.

Salaam

 

[Globalnomad]

Why are we so worried about end times? We know they will come, nobody knows when; we know they will be awful, but I doubt that they would be more awful, to any of us personally, than a battle with lung cancer or having to watch our children starve to death because of drought - both very common occurrences in the world tody, that nobody thinks too much about.

The only thing that matters to any of us is to live TODAY according to God's law. Why worry about all the rest?

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[Abdurrahim]

Prophecies prove one more time Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent by One and Only G-d Allmighty.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

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[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

People have been predicting the end of the world for some two millennia but the world endures.

There's a very good reason for that!

Please remember that the original New Testament was written in Greek.

Now in that verse, the actual word used is "eras," which means "world" or "age."

But the translators who prepared the King James Version in fact picked the wrong meaning!

These passages in fact refer to the end of the Age, not the end of the world!

Best,

Bruce

 

[Spherical Time]

As the strong belief of we muslims is that when the sun will rise from
west rather than east, that time will be the biggest identity of The
Day Of Judgment (Qayamah). And the door of Forgiveness will
be closed on that day.

The science of astronomy states that the speed of planet Mars has been
decreasing in its course towards the eastern direction in the few past
weeks to the level we notice the "waver" between the east and the
west..and on Wednesday the 30th of July the planet movement stopped
going toward the eastern direction..!!!

Then in the months of August and September...Mars changed its course
in the opposite direction to the West- and that until the end of
September..which means the sun will rise now from the west
on Mars!!

And this weird phenomena of the opposite movement called "Retrograde
Motion" Most scientist state that all the planets will go through the
same once at least and our planet Earth is one of them.

Planet Earth will move in the opposite direction some day and the sun
will rise from the west!!

This might occur soon and we are unaware when it'll happen.

Our beloved messenger Mohammad Sallallahu Aleyhe Wa'alahi Wasallam
said: "One of the signs of the hour..the sun will rise from the west,
where no longer tauba (forgiveness) will be granted" !!

No, that's not what Retrograde motion is. Retrograde motion is when, due to the way that planets circle the earth, a planet appears to move backward against its orbit.

The planet in question does not stop, change course, or start rotating backward. Only our perception of it does.

Of couse, this means that the Earth will never ever go through "Retrograde Motion" because we observe the earth from the surface. And, incidentally, no scientist that actually understands the concept would ever claim that the earth would stop and rotate backward. I'd love to see a astrophysicist that claims that, and the evidence for his hypothesis would have to be extraordinary.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Prophecies prove one more time Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent by One and Only G-d Allmighty.If you check my post you will see %90 percent of the prophecies of the Quran and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) are fulfilled.
Salaam

Wrong. Jesus and Paul's prophecies came true also!!!!!!!! But Jesus also said ALL THINGS WRITTEN would be accomplished upon the Destruction of the Jewish Nation and Temple, not just "some" things.

peepn: Matthew 26:64 Jesus replied, "Yes, it is as you say. And in the future you will see me, the Son of Man, sitting at God's right hand in the place of power and coming back on the clouds of heaven."
If this was going to be 2000 years plus, this statement makes no sense.

Of course, similar themes are in Mark and Luke.

I would agree along with these peepn, and thanks for showing us that.

Matthew 10:23 "When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Luke 21:22 "For these are the Days of Vengeance, that ALL Things which are Written may be Fulfilled.

1 Peter 4:7 But the End of ALL things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers.

Anyone seen a Jewish Temple around lately?????

Matt 23: 38 "See! Your house is left to you a Wilderness;

Matthew 8:12 "But the sons [#5207] of the kingdom [#932] shall be being "cast out" [#1544] into outer [#1857] darkness.

Luke 21:24 "And they shall be falling by a mouth of sword, and be being led away captive into All the nations. And Jerusalem will be being trampled by Gentiles/nations until times of Gentiles/nation may be being fulfilled [#4137].
Why would it show a temple being measured for 2000yrs in the future

Revelation 11:1:And given to me a reed like unto [a] staff saying: Be Ye Arousing!!!!! and Measure Ye!!!!! the Sanctuary/Temple of the God, and the Altar and the Ones worshipping in it/him ! 2 And the Court [#833], the one within[#2081] the Sanctuary/Temple [#3485] be Casting Out!!!!! [#1544] Out-side [#1854] and ye should not be measuring it/her, because she was given to the nations/gentiles, and the city, the holy, they shall be treading [#3961] for 40 and 2 months.

Lamentations 2:1 How the Lord has covered the daughter of Zion With a cloud in His anger! He cast down from heaven to the earth The beauty of Israel, And did not remember His footstool In the day of His anger.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The gospels hadn't been written yet when this prophecy was made, so this appears to be ALL THINGS WRITTEN in the OT/OC book of the Divine Book of God, the Bible.

But for some reason, some of my fellow christians like to substistue the word "some" for "ALL", and I don't understand that myself. Peace.

Luke 21:22 "For these are the Days of Vengeance, that ALL THINGS which are Written may be Fulfilled.

Reve 10:7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets.

 

[Abdurrahim]

No, that's not what Retrograde motion is. Retrograde motion is when, due to the way that planets circle the earth, a planet appears to move backward against its orbit.

The planet in question does not stop, change course, or start rotating backward. Only our perception of it does.

Of couse, this means that the Earth will never ever go through "Retrograde Motion" because we observe the earth from the surface. And, incidentally, no scientist that actually understands the concept would ever claim that the earth would stop and rotate backward. I'd love to see a astrophysicist that claims that, and the evidence for his hypothesis would have to be extraordinary.

I must admit I am not an expert about this.

But someone has already seen sun rise from the west.
http://www.pbase.com/bandito/image/38679305


Can happen if you fly faster then earths rotation speed to the west.

This is one possibility.

Another possibility can happen if you think of athmosphere as a lens. If there is enough pollution and gases in the athmosphere we can see sun rise from the west optically propbably.

But Almighty G-d can change earths rotation direction too of course if He wills.

Peace

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Paul tells us what happens at the endtimes:

2 thess 1:7 and to [give] you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed[#602] from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence/FACE[#4383] of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes[#2064], in that Day, to be Glorified in His Saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge [you] therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing[#2015] and His kingdom:..... 8 Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing/brightness[#2015].

 

[BruceDLimber]

Of couse, this means that the Earth will never ever go through "Retrograde Motion" because we observe the earth from the surface. And, incidentally, no scientist that actually understands the concept would ever claim that the earth would stop and rotate backward.

And furthermore, those claiming it's even possible for the earth to stop--let alone reverse rotational direction--are clearly overlooking the huge amount of angular momentum stored in the rotating earth right now!

If it were to happen, the angular energy that would have to be dispersed to accomplish this would be enough to melt much (if not all) of the surface of the earth, killing off its life in the process!

Taking spiritual stories literally tends to be an extremely bad idea.

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Spherical Time]

I must admit I am not an expert about this.

But someone has already seen sun rise from the west.
http://www.pbase.com/bandito/image/38679305


Can happen if you fly faster then earths rotation speed to the west.

This is one possibility.

Another possibility can happen if you think of athmosphere as a lens. If there is enough pollution and gases in the athmosphere we can see sun rise from the west optically propbably.

But Almighty G-d can change earths rotation direction too of course if He wills.

Peace

I agree that it is possible for someone to percieve that the sun is rising in the west. I disagree that it is actually possible for this to happen.

If there was an all-powerful God, then yes he could reverse the rotation of the earth . . . but sI don't believe that such a creature exists.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This was a prophecy made over here on the eschatology board. I actually invited them over so we could form a game called "Muslim Eschatology" vs Christian Eschatology. That would be fun.

http://www.christianforums.com/t2865338-prophecy-coming-true.html
Prophecy coming true?
I was reading Rev. 13 today:

Revelation 13:2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Then I saw the teams for the NCAA Final Four:

LSU Tigers
UCLA Bruins
Florida Gators
GMU Patriots

Think about it:

like unto a leopard" - that's the Tigers
"feet of a bear" - the Bruins
"the dragon" - Gators
"power...great authority" - that's George Mason University (named after one of the Founding Fathers) Patriots.

Somehow this all links up. I wasn't sure about it until I looked at Rev. 11:

Revelation 11:2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Basketball is played on a court! Every year millions engage in the false idol worship of the NCAA basketball tournament and even bet on it. Scripture says--clear as a bell--that we must not "measure" the court, meaning betting on or even picking teams. The entire tournament is outside the Temple of the New Jerusalem.

 

[Skillganon]

LittleLamb you should not worry about ENd of Time. You will be Dead either way, when the time comes.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

LittleLamb you should not worry about ENd of Time. You will be Dead either way, when the time comes.

I don't worry about it because I am not waiting on it. See this verse here? What is left after the first century destruction of the Jewish Nation by God and Jesus Christ? Everything writtin in the OT/NT was fulfilled at that event, so what is left.

Luke 21:22 "For these are the Days of Vengeance, that ALL Things which are Written may be Fulfilled.

1 Peter 4:7 But the End of ALL things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers.

Lamentations 2:1 How the Lord has covered the daughter of Zion With a cloud in His anger! He cast down from heaven to the earth The beauty of Israel, And did not remember His footstool In the day of His anger.

 

[Skillganon]

I don't worry about it because I am not waiting on it. See this verse here? What is left after the first century destruction of the Jewish Nation by God and Jesus Christ? Everything writtin in the OT/NT was fulfilled at that event, so what is left.

Luke 21:22 "For these are the Days of Vengeance, that ALL Things which are Written may be Fulfilled.

1 Peter 4:7 But the End of ALL things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers.

Lamentations 2:1 How the Lord has covered the daughter of Zion With a cloud in His anger! He cast down from heaven to the earth The beauty of Israel, And did not remember His footstool In the day of His anger.

I think you will not find the answer here you looking for, of the end of time!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I think you will not find the answer here you looking for, of the end of time!

Afraid so skill. You see, I have been studying and translating our book of revelation and it is one of the most Awsome Divine books in the bible, and just as difficult as Ezekiel and Daniel. I believe it is showing the destruction of the Jewish Nation and Jersualem that Jesus and Paul prophecied. If it isn't, then I won't even bother with it.

Unfortunately, christianity itself is divided on it and I hope and pray more scholars will use that book to defend Jesus Christ as Lord and the Apostleship of Paul. Your Koran comes nowhere close it, neither does any book on this Planet bro. Peace.

2 thess 1:7 and to [give] you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed[#602] from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9

reve 19:11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes [were] like a flame of fire, and on His head [were] many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He [was] clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.

 

[mallowpuff]

"Terror, and the pit, and the snare are upon you, O inhabitant of the earth! He who flees at the sound of the terror shall fall into the pit; and he who climbs out of the pit shall be caught in the snare. For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Isaiah;24:17.18
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Those are earthquakes aren't they? Is the windows of heaven being opened, is that the rapture?