The end of World War 2 up to now

[NinjaPirate777]

This is a bit of my understanding of why things are the way they are in the US. It took years to get the picture. I hope younger people interested in it can benefit from it. Do not get black pilled about things. God is in control. We have to look to Him for what to do today to help others and be of service. I will answer questions and offer more insight if you wish.

After World War 2 most of the industrial world was bombed. Because of this the US factories provided for the rest of the world. Pay and benefits skyrocketed during the time after the war. The soldiers from world war 2 had children called the baby boomers. When the baby boomers grew up they had lots of good jobs available as the US was still industrialized and making lots of useful products for the US and the world. Over the next few decades factories were moved to other countries because they had cheaper labor than the US. As Gen-X and newer generations arrived the jobs were not as plentiful and the benefits keep decreasing. Baby boomers tend to get annoyed with younger generations because they don't realize how things have changed.

Around the 1960s immigration from our southern border was no longer seriously enforced. Over time a peaceful invasion of around 60 million people have entered the US that way which has affected blue collar pay and benefits. Business owners get cheap labor from this arrangement and those people vote a certain way which is why both political sides accept it.

In the 1960s movies and television started showing divorce as an acceptable choice for people when they were no longer happy in their marriage. As a consequence of this divorce became rampant which destroyed the wealth and emotional integrity of families. Around this time abortion and birth control pills became legal, the catholic bishops quietly accepted this, which put procreation in the hands of women. This decreased the birth rate and many women chose to enter the work force. Antidepressant use among women skyrocketed.

In the 1950s neighborhoods were usually ethnic and had a church they went to. Most of these churches were Catholic. The Protestants running things wanted to break up these neighborhoods to diminish the influence of the Pope. They feared the Pope would tell the Catholics how to vote. So they moved former slaves from the south into these ethnic neighborhoods which caused fights to break out. Ethnic Poles, Germans, Italians etc moved to suburbs to escape the situation. In the suburbs these people were all mixed with other kinds of people and they no longer had the ethnic/church cohesion. These people were led to embrace a new religion, conservatism. They largely left the church and embraced political conservatism, which is a sham fight with the liberals. Christians abdicated voting God's will at this time. Over the years laws have been made to take the Christian God out of the public square and Christians have sat on the sidelines praying.

Gen-Xers like me recall times when the country had more intact families and people were treated with dignity as souls with bodies created in the image of God. Versus now where people are treated like resource consumers who harm the earth with their carbon foot prints.

 

[DaisyDay]

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[timothyu]

A brief statement from a boomer before I leave you to it. It all boils down to the effects of Corporatism that took what was once for a time in the free world shared wealth among small businesses, and compressed it into a handful of elites thinking their success qualifies them to run the world. It has affected all generations, each more so than the last.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Intro snipped.

After World War 2 most of the industrial world was bombed. Because of this the US factories provided for the rest of the world. Pay and benefits skyrocketed during the time after the war. The soldiers from world war 2 had children called the baby boomers. When the baby boomers grew up they had lots of good jobs available as the US was still industrialized and making lots of useful products for the US and the world.

So far so good.

Over the next few decades factories were moved to other countries because they had cheaper labor than the US.

Outsourcing (US companies using foreign manufacturing for their products) is largely a product of the 80s and more so the 90s and later.

What happened in the 70s and into the 80s and drove economic losses in manufacturing was foreign competition. It wasn't that RCA and GM were moving production of their products to Japan, it was that Japanese companies like Sony and Honda were making their own products in Japan and shipping them to the US.

As Gen-X and newer generations arrived the jobs were not as plentiful and the benefits keep decreasing. Baby boomers tend to get annoyed with younger generations because they don't realize how things have changed.

Baby boomers and not foreign competition are our (Gen-X) biggest problem in the job supply.

Around the 1960s immigration from our southern border was no longer seriously enforced.

Was the southern border ever really "secure". It's mostly empty scrubland.

In terms of immigration influx, the changes to the immigration law in 1965 were far more important. The 1925 legal immigration quotas that were based on the number of people from each country/ethnic group in 1890 when most immigration to the US had come from northern Europe and before the 1890-1920 immigration influx of southern and eastern Europeans. After 1965 it became much easier to immigrate from those parts of Europe, not to mention non-European countries with the new more equal quotas.

Over time a peaceful invasion of around 60 million people have entered the US that way which has affected blue collar pay and benefits. Business owners get cheap labor from this arrangement and those people vote a certain way which is why both political sides accept it.

Certain industries where the owners prefer not to pay the prevailing minimum wage and are willing to pay off books have been dominated by undocumented immigrant labor because they are the easiest to exploit, but they also can't vote.

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In the 1960s movies and television started showing divorce as an acceptable choice for people when they were no longer happy in their marriage. As a consequence of this divorce became rampant which destroyed the wealth and emotional integrity of families.

Again, it seems like your timing is off. If anything divorce rates rose *first* before mainstream television would acknowledge the existence of divorce. The "golden age of TV" sitcoms that were the afternoon reruns when we Gen-Xers were growing up were all devoid of divorce. If anything it was in the 1980s when TV shows recognized that a lot of kids had divorce parents or friends and classmates with divorced parents and decided that the characters on family oriented TV shows should start including some divorced people and kids with divorced parents.

Around this time abortion and birth control pills became legal,

Birth control pills were also invented then. And states tried to keep both illegal until the US Supreme court ruled otherwise (BC in 1965, abortion in 1973).

the catholic bishops quietly accepted this, which put procreation in the hands of women.

As to part 2 (procreation in the hands of women), is that a problem for you?

As to part 1 (Catholic bishops accepting this): You have to be joking. Did you sleep through the 80s.

In the 80s the top 5 political/social issues for the bishops were:
Abortion, birth control, abortion, divorce, and of course, abortion. We had taped messages from the bishop about the evils of abortion, sermons about birth control, and warnings not to even bother trying to take communion if you got remarried outside the Church. (Of course, they also would remarry you.)

This decreased the birth rate and many women chose to enter the work force.

I think you might have the causality backward here.

Antidepressant use among women skyrocketed.

Were there any of the antidepressants we talk of today? I'm not sure. Do you mean "pep pills" or "uppers" (aka, amphetamines, "mother's little helper")? Perhaps they did. But given your track record so far, I have no reason to trust your info. (and it doesn't get better)

In the 1950s neighborhoods were usually ethnic and had a church they went to. Most of these churches were Catholic.

In northern cities where large scale immigration had formed ethnic neighborhoods, yes, but not so much elsewhere.

Catholics peaked at about 35% of the US population. Then we started leaving the Church. (See bishops above.)

The Protestants running things wanted to break up these neighborhoods to diminish the influence of the Pope. They feared the Pope would tell the Catholics how to vote.

Yes, we know about nativist, anti-Catholic rhetoric, especially about "papal control". Not sure what this has to do with neighborhoods. I know of no attempts to "break up" ethnic neighborhoods. There were also lots of mixed neighborhoods and also those with rather few "ethnic Catholics".

So they moved former slaves from the south

Woah, buddy! You're talking about the 1950s. That's a full 85 (or more) years since slavery ended. I think you mean "Black people" not "slaves".

into these ethnic neighborhoods which caused fights to break out.

No, the "protestants" didn't move black people into ethnic neighborhoods in the 1950s. Black people had been moving into northern industrial cities for a long time with the biggest influx in the 1920s era known as the "Great Migration".

As for violence, you can go back to the draft riots of 1863 in New York when poor whites (mostly Irish immigrants) attacked the city's black population after Pres. Lincoln called for more men to fight against the rebels. Then there are the "race riots" of the 1920s where white mobs attacked black neighborhoods.

Ethnic Poles, Germans, Italians etc moved to suburbs to escape the situation.

This is known as "white flight" and involved protestants as well.

In the suburbs these people were all mixed with other kinds of people and they no longer had the ethnic/church cohesion.

The old ethnic neighborhoods were replaced by new, more mixed suburbs, but with immigration largely shut off for a generation there was less connection to the "old country". New churches were built in the suburbs to service the new residents for every faith.

These people were led to embrace a new religion, conservatism. They largely left the church and embraced political conservatism, which is a sham fight with the liberals.

Conservatism isn't a religion. Religiosity didn't drop with the move to the suburbs in the 50s and 60s. Most of those "liberals" were also in the churches.

Christians abdicated voting God's will at this time. Over the years laws have been made to take the Christian God out of the public square and Christians have sat on the sidelines praying.

OK, whatever.

Gen-Xers like me recall times when the country had more intact families and people were treated with dignity as souls with bodies created in the image of God. Versus now where people are treated like resource consumers who harm the earth with their carbon foot prints.

Not sure what your point is, but look something about Gen-X. (It took a while.)

 

[timothyu]

it was that Japanese companies like Sony and Honda were making their own products in Japan and shipping them to the US.

And they were far superior

 

[Hans Blaster]

And they were far superior

A big part of why some of those US electronics firms (most of them?) don't even exist anymore.

 

[Larniavc]

Gen-Xers like me recall times when the country had more intact families and people were treated with dignity as souls with bodies created in the image of God. Versus now where people are treated like resource consumers who harm the earth with their carbon foot prints.

I’m a Gen Xer and I can say with confidence things are better now than when I was younger.

Do not get black pilled about things.

Is this an incel or mgtow thing?