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Swordfall, salvation is a Covenant between Jesus and the saved person. Jesus never breaks His Covenant. We can sin (which sin is sin in God's eyes, doesn't matter what kind of sin) and not keep our end of the Covenant but He keeps His as we have seen in His Covenant with the Jews. I once looked for an answer to what happens when a believer dies in sin and I think I found it in either Corinthians or Hebrews, but it said that the person would lose his rewards.
Suppose a born again, war-weary soldier shoots innocent people out of anger and burn-out and then gets shot to death in the incident. I mean, seriously, if we could lose our salvation through sin, there must be a lot of people in hell because they started a fight with their spouse before their death, or told a convenient untruth to avoid family problems, etc. Suppose a believer has a sexual infidelity and dies in a car accident that night?
God is a Covenant Keeper. He's always faithful. He has always kept His Covenant with the Jewish people and they have been unfaithful many times. I know that the Jewish people don't necessarily go to heaven unless they believe in Jesus, but He has kept His Covenant with them and we really don't know how the Jews are being judged since they have been purposely blinded.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it is not correct in my estimation. Also, your use of Exodus 21:22-25 to justify abortion and claim God does not speak against it is a misinterpretation. Let's look at it, shall we?There's nothing to be had there. It's an invalid reason for some Christians to call those with abortions murderers when even under the Old Law, it was not considered such.
You might want to lay off on your opinions...you have NO idea who I know. And yes, I do know 4 star Admirals and Generals. I also know a couple of senators and congresscritters. I am probably much better connected than you are...and I can tell you that you are so full of baloney, it's not even funny.
The Sheriff of my hometown was a high school classmate of mine. A couple of fire department battalion chiefs were friends of mine or siblings of friends of mine. Chief of Police...yup, know him and his family too.
So...would you like to repeat your allegations?
Wow! When facts and logic fail you, resort to either name-calling or pulling rank. We don't really care what generals or congressmen you know. What we care about is whether or not you know Jesus. Do you?
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil
I'll keep that in mind when protestants tell people they cannot lose their salvation in mortal sin.
I'll keep that in mind when protestants tell people they cannot lose their salvation in mortal sin.
Yeah, that "mortal sin"-doctrine that the papist church has created for itself, using the same method as the worst of the "Just me an' mah Bible!" so-called "non-denominationalists" use....
Can we imagine the nightmare of an atheist left America?
What is wrong with being a "non-denominationalist"? I am a former Catholic and I'm not interested in a denomination. I do believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that is what I rely on as the truth. Non-denominational churches follow the Word of God. They do not add anything or remove anything. There are no "new" teachings like replacement theology or purpose-driven anything or the "love verse" from, I think it's from Romans, etc. It's just Scripture and the importance of surrendering one's life to Jesus.
Can we imagine the nightmare of an atheist left America?
Would there not have been slavery?
That's just what non-denominational churches say in order to attract people who have had bad experiences with denominational churches. The non-denoms are, in reality, just tiny denominations.
No church that takes any stand on the age for persons to be baptized, what the Lord's Supper means, what qualifies anyone to be a pastor, or dozens of other "hot-button" doctrines that have divided the denominations for centuries can really be considered to be only following the Word of God, period. And there are NONE which do not have a position on such matters.
Would there not have been slavery?
So slavery was a religious thing? No it wasn't. It was allowed in Scripture, but so was divorce simply because of the hardness of hearts. Perhaps slavery was the same thing. I don't think the fact that Jesus didn't denounce it means that He was in favor of it. He didn't get involved in political things. He came to teach us that the truth would set us free and we needed to accept the truth. Unfortunately, evil people don't usually accept the truth.
And revived it in the 60s with the "Great Society" which continues to enslave the less fortunate to a government check in exchange for their vote. Bribery and enslavement funded by a massive federal deficit, carried on the backs of the middle class, and fueled by power-hungry socialists calling themselves the Democratic Party.The pro-slavery democrats helped make slavery possible.
What I don't understand is the perpetuation of massive wealth inequality, and the valuing of the rich above the poor, since Jesus was totally a champion of the poor. It's no small stretch of the imagination to say that, if Jesus were to be transplanted to our modern times, he would be some kind of religious socialist.
Another thing I don't get is the glorification of the military. War is bad. I mean, of course there are such things as a just war, but I think we should do everything we can to prevent wars. Maybe I'm just a silly young idealist?
Also, the whole gun culture. You know, if Jesus were around today I'm sure he would have a large collection of guns in his basement.
And the environment. I'm not sure, don't you think Jesus would want us to protect the environment?
And the ridiculous, fervent nationalism. Do you think God has some kind of special destiny for America? We're just a country, like any other country. Nations are a human construct. Do you really think the God of the universe cares about flags and anthems? He doesn't love an American more than a Frenchman or a Mexican or a Nigerian or even a filthy, godless Chinese communist heathen.
So slavery was a religious thing? No it wasn't. It was allowed in Scripture, but so was divorce simply because of the hardness of hearts. Perhaps slavery was the same thing. I don't think the fact that Jesus didn't denounce it means that He was in favor of it.He didn't get involved in political things. He came to teach us that the truth would set us free and we needed to accept the truth. Unfortunately, evil people don 't usually accept the truth.
It just all makes me facepalm, folks. A lot of Christians claim to love the Bible and the Constitution. But the Constitution is not a religious document. It is a secular document. America really, truly is a secular nation. That is what the Founders intended. They were sons of the European Enlightenment, a movement that was skeptical of God. In our republic, you aren't supposed to have laws based on a particular religion (gay marriage in mind here).
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