The Earth is not 6,000 years old.

[AV1611VET]

Of course there's polar ice, far more extensly
studied and cross checked.
There are a number of hilariously inane
"explanations' for the depth and age of the uce.

 

[Strathos]

Why do you cite Hovind when his arguments don't match up with yours? He doesn't subscribe to the whole 'embedded age' thing, for one. He thinks (or claims to think) the physical evidence actually supports a young earth, which is something that you're on the record as denying.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you cite Hovind when his arguments don't match up with yours? He doesn't subscribe to the whole 'embedded age' thing, for one. He thinks (or claims to think) the physical evidence actually supports a young earth, which is something that you're on the record as denying.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It's what he is tearing down; not what he is building up.

(Besides, he's my brother-in-Christ, just like you are.)

 

[Strathos]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It's what he is tearing down; not what he is building up.

(Besides, he's my brother-in-Christ, just like you are.)

In that case, you should be citing my theistic evolution arguments...

 

[SelfSim]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Just remember who it was who decided there even existed a so-called 'enemy' .. (and the source of that decision)!

 

[AV1611VET]

In that case, you should be citing my theistic evolution arguments...

Sorry ... I should have made it clearer.

Evolution is the enemy; young earth creationism is the friend.

In fact, my pastor is a young earth creationist.

 

[AV1611VET]

Just remember who it was who decided there even existed a so-called 'enemy' .. (and the source of that decision)!

 

[sjastro]

Sorry ... I should have made it clearer.

Evolution is the enemy; young earth creationism is the friend.

In fact, my pastor is a young earth creationist.

Care to fill out the Nicolas Bourbaki anti-intellectual checksheet?

 

[AV1611VET]

Care to fill out the Nicolas Bourbaki anti-intellectual checksheet?

I scored a 9.

How did you score?

 

[SelfSim]

I scored a 9

Gobsmackingly anti-intellectual .. (and yet somehow twistedly proud of it)?

(All I can wonder is how you manage to do up your shoelaces ..?)

 

[AV1611VET]

Gobsmackingly anti-intellectual .. (and yet somehow twistedly proud of it)?

Eyes barn ignit, eyes die ignit.

(All I can wonder is how you manage to do up your shoelaces ..?)

Velcro.

 

[Strathos]

Sorry ... I should have made it clearer.

Evolution is the enemy; young earth creationism is the friend.

In fact, my pastor is a young earth creationist.

But being inconsistent in your approach just makes you look desperate and dishonest.

I'm against the idea that the earth is flat, but that doesn't mean I'm about to link arguments from people who believe the earth is hollow in order to argue against flat-earthers.

 

[Yttrium]

Guys, anti-intellectualism and personal attacks are off topic.

On topic, it seems to me that if God created the Earth and universe with billions of years of age 6,000 years ago, one can hardly blame scientists for estimating the age to be billions of years rather than 6,000. It's the functional age, the one we're going to use in science, because it might as well be that age for all intents and purposes.

 

[AV1611VET]

On topic, it seems to me that if God created the Earth and universe with the appearance of age, one can hardly blame scientists for estimating the age to be billions of years rather than 6,000.

Would you (et alii) please dispense with the phrase THE APPEARANCE OF AGE and use what it is: AGE.

There's a difference.

God created the universe with age ... and ... God created the universe with [the appearance of] age can be misconstrued.

The universe appears old, because the universe is old.

 

[Yttrium]

Would you (et alii) please dispense with the phrase THE APPEARANCE OF AGE and use what it is: AGE.

There's a difference.

God created the universe with age ... and ... God created the universe with [the appearance of] age can be misconstrued.

The universe appears old, because the universe is old.

Oops. Sorry. Fixed.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oops. Sorry. Fixed.

You're a gentleman and a scholar!

 

[sjastro]

I scored a 9.

How did you score?

I scored a 0.
Unlike you I am not threatened by expertise; I have been proven wrong by experts in their fields such as Randy Korotev or Chris Naunton.
Rather than seeing them as the enemy for disagreeing with me I see it as a learning experience.

For you to mention scoring a 9 as if this is a number to be proud of shows a narrow minded person attacking individuals for their intellectual abilities and leanings.
Anti-intellectualism is a cancer on society and hiding behind religion is no justification for it.

 

[coffee4u]

Easier to just say "planned it all along"

God did not plan for man to fall, to plan indicates he caused it to happen. God didn't cause Adam to sin, Adam caused Adam to sin. God can see the future as easily as we can see this minute.

 

[coffee4u]

So no bird nor other creature ate seeds, nuts, fruit until
after the "fall".
So, as the purpose of fruit and berries is to get animals
to eat them and spread the seeds, the fall had to happen
pretty soon, to get seed distribution going.

Giant squids used their tentacles to reach out of the water
for tufts of grass. Spidrrs ate grass.
Strange.

They ate plants, fruit and seeds from creation.
After the fall some animals ate meat.
After the flood man was allowed allowed meat.

 

[Astrid]

They ate plants, fruit and seeds from creation.
After the fall some animals ate meat.
After the flood man was allowed allowed meat.

I don't doubt you actually believe all that.
But tell you what- there is no point of contact
for you and me. So, please don't address me, I will
return the favour.