The dilemma of being a Catholic Democrat

[BabyChristian22]

The official teaching of the DNC is that anyone who doesn't agree with so-called "gay marriage" is a bigot. So either Catholic Democrats agree with so-called "gay marriage" which means rejecting the core teachings of the Catholic Church and automatic excommunication or they are called a bigot by their own political party.

 

[S.ilvio]

Darn. Can someone sign me up with the poor hating Republicans ASAP...

 

[Virgil the Roman]

Sure; we'll have you sign-up immediately? Would you care to enlist as corporate hack or lacky? Or would corporate privateer or 'raider' be more to your liking?

 

[docpotter]

The official teaching of the DNC is that anyone who doesn't agree with so-called "gay marriage" is a bigot. So either Catholic Democrats agree with so-called "gay marriage" which means rejecting the core teachings of the Catholic Church and automatic excommunication or they are called a bigot by their own political party.

Hi Baby Christian ,

I think it goes even further than just Catholics. Anyone who considers themselves a bible believing Christian of any denomination should be 100 % against gay marriage , and abortion, and taking God out of society. All of these things are the liberal beliefs / agenda.

I have noticed pretty much every atheist, and agnostic, and pagan on these and other forums are typically very liberal , and I have no problem with that. It is expected as enemies of the cross of Jesus Christ should adhere to these godless ways.

But when Christians are pro abortion , pro gay marriage, pro godless society there is an issue for sure.

I am a republican and I do not " hate the poor". In fact , I gave more in charitable contributions last year than Joe Biden, who makes a lot more money than I do. But Liberals will excuse his " hate of the poor " I suppose....

 

[Protoevangel]

The official teaching of the DNC is that anyone who doesn't agree with so-called "gay marriage" is a bigot.

Really?

I'm not a demo(n)crat, but this is surprising news to me. I know many individuals hold to that position, and that this was a general tendency in the party currently, but I was unaware that it was official. Can you please provide some official document showing this to be the case?

 

[Fantine]

My way of deciding how to vote is simple: if voting for a particular candidate or issue would prevent me from sleeping at night, wrack me with guilt, and consume me with anxiety then obviously I am making the wrong decision.

One cannot vote for a particular candidate BECAUSE they support gay marriage or BECAUSE they are pro-choice....

And I know few people who do. Most people I know look at all the issues and consider which vote would allow them to sleep at night so that they could faithfully fulfill their responsibilities on earth as spouses, parents, grandparents, employees, volunteers, parishioners, etc.

I know that there are some Catholics who feel that "religious freedom" is some sort of slogan that only pertains to government and not to the Church...

But truthfully, I look at the HHS Mandate as "karma." The Church is getting back from the universe what it's giving to its members.

 

[sylverpiano]

The official teaching of the DNC is that anyone who doesn't agree with so-called "gay marriage" is a bigot. So either Catholic Democrats agree with so-called "gay marriage" which means rejecting the core teachings of the Catholic Church and automatic excommunication or they are called a bigot by their own political party.

Please excuse my bolding of a portion of your statement. I felt it was necessary in order to clarify my question: It is an interesting charge that you make here. I would be intrigued to learn more. Would it be possible for you to provide the documentation that would support your assertion? I would be particualrly interested in direct evidence of the official nature of this teaching.

Thank you in advance.

 

[JesusIsTheWay33]

I'm terribly tempted to make a thread called "the dilemma of being a Catholic American". After all, the official teaching of the United States is that the USA is a special country particularly beloved of God above others, and that it is subject to no earthly power. Well, that causes problems with Unam Sanctam, so which is it? Do you believe in the wonderful, unique (cont., p94)

 

[MKJ]

Aren't party policies developed by the thoughts of the membership as much as the other way around? Typically that is how political parties have hashed out policy. Of course, if you go around telling people that they can't be a Christian and a member of a particular party, you pretty much make it a sure thing that non-Christian voices will dominate.

It would be a clever thing to do to go around telling people that if you belonged to some other party and were completely ethically bankrupt.

 

[Genersis]

The official teaching of the DNC is that anyone who doesn't agree with so-called "gay marriage" is a bigot. So either Catholic Democrats agree with so-called "gay marriage" which means rejecting the core teachings of the Catholic Church and automatic excommunication or they are called a bigot by their own political party.

Funny.

Is this the part where i claim that the Republican party officially hold "Christian values" above everyone else's rights, and if you don't agree with their "Christian values", you are deemed anti-Christian and/or un-American by them?

I thought that would be a little ignorant and overgeneralising really. And more than a little untrue.


I guess people who vote Democrat don't think their Christian values should be written into law so everyone else must follow them...
Oh, and that they have better solutions to political problems, rather than better stances on social issues.

 

[Trogool]

The official teaching of the DNC is that anyone who doesn't agree with so-called "gay marriage" is a bigot. So either Catholic Democrats agree with so-called "gay marriage" which means rejecting the core teachings of the Catholic Church and automatic excommunication or they are called a bigot by their own political party.

I'm just curious, where on Democrats.org does it explicitly say that anyone who doesn't support gay marriage is "a bigot"?

 

[Needing_Grace]

I'm just curious, where on Democrats.org does it explicitly say that anyone who doesn't support gay marriage is "a bigot"?

Actually, this notion that a political party has "teachings" is really telling.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

. . .
Is this the part where i claim that the Republican party officially hold "Christian values" above everyone else's rights . . .

Only if you replace 'Christian' with 'Freemasonic', you'd perhaps be more accurate with regards to the Republican party . . .

 

[Trogool]

Actually, this notion that a political party has "teachings" is really telling.

Well, they do have statements on issues on their official website.

This one, most relevantly: Civil Rights | Issues | Democrats.org

Strangely, I don't see the word "bigot" anywhere...

 

[MikeK]

Lying is a sin, OP. Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand!

 

[sylverpiano]

Originally posted by the Lord God:

" Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." Ex 20: 16

 

[MKJ]

Well, they do have statements on issues on their official website.

This one, most relevantly: Civil Rights | Issues | Democrats.org

Strangely, I don't see the word "bigot" anywhere...

Statements like this aren't quite the same as teachings though. They are, after all, subject to revision, and they come from the members as much as they are "taught" to the members.

 

[Antigone]

Well, you can't be a pro-choice republican either if you want to get elected. That's two-party politics for you.

 

[Antigone]

Hi Baby Christian ,

I think it goes even further than just Catholics. Anyone who considers themselves a bible believing Christian of any denomination should be 100 % against gay marriage , and abortion, and taking God out of society. All of these things are the liberal beliefs / agenda.

I have noticed pretty much every atheist, and agnostic, and pagan on these and other forums are typically very liberal , and I have no problem with that. It is expected as enemies of the cross of Jesus Christ should adhere to these godless ways.

But when Christians are pro abortion , pro gay marriage, pro godless society there is an issue for sure.

I am a republican and I do not " hate the poor". In fact , I gave more in charitable contributions last year than Joe Biden, who makes a lot more money than I do. But Liberals will excuse his " hate of the poor " I suppose....

Poe's law is strong in this one.

 

[Genersis]

Poe's law is strong in this one.

In case you don't know, I found out that this site is where the term "Poe's Law" originated you know.
No joke:
Poe's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia