If "ultimately" means a million years from now; maybe ultimately doesn't matter; and if it does then attempt to do something that will be remembered, or affect the world for a million years.
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If "ultimately" means a million years from now; maybe ultimately doesn't matter; and if it does then attempt to do something that will be remembered, or affect the world for a million years.I keep using the word "ultimately", is that not showing up in my posts?
Yes, its a generalization that I'm making.
It's a doctrine of life, not death. Whether it is one's own life or someone else's that one benefits, it is life that is served. The value is life, not death.
You are the one seeing the glass as half-empty instead of half-full. It is your own negativity that you are projecting onto the issue. We atheists who don't believe in afterlives are being positive.
That is cheap rhetoric. We aren't saying that death is a wonderful thing. We simply accept it as a fact of reality.
We could just as easily say that your doctrine is one of empty wish-fulfillment by belief in a non-existent afterlife. Of course, that wouldn't be your actual position.
eudaimonia,
Mark
I'd say that there are more atheists who believe in the afterlife than not.
In the end what you promote is a glass that becomes completely empty for the individual regardless of how I perceive it. To me that's not a very appealing philosophy just as my philosophy of an eternal life of endless growth and service to others may not appeal to you.
What must that look like? I wonder if their skepticism about the resurrection of the dead survives death?
How was what determined? that a dead person isn't conscious? Common sense maybe?
For the pessimist it must not matter.
In the end what you promote is a glass that becomes completely empty for the individual regardless of how I perceive it. To me that's not a very appealing philosophy
just as my philosophy of an eternal life of endless growth and service to others may not appeal to you.
What must that look like? I wonder if their skepticism about the resurrection of the dead survives death?
If "ultimately" means a million years from now; maybe ultimately doesn't matter; and if it does then attempt to do something that will be remembered, or affect the world for a million years.
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I am doing something, I'm keeping hope alive during this materialistic winter of mechanistic sophistry, for future generations of believers whose work will culminate in the age of "light and life" when the gospel of the kingdom of heaven comes to full fruition. Eventually secular totalitarianism will die out along with the Atheist of the age.
I wonder if you can provide evidence that your beliefs are true.
Let us know when you have something other than empty assertions to back your claims.
I am doing something, I'm keeping hope alive during this materialistic winter of mechanistic sophistry, for future generations of believers whose work will culminate in the age of "light and life" when the gospel of the kingdom of heaven comes to full fruition. Eventually secular totalitarianism will die out along with the Atheist of the age.
Let us know when you have something other than empty assertions to back your claims.
Reality isn't always appealing, but it is still reality. Yes, people die, but that doesn't mean that their lives weren't meaningful and complete in themselves.
Death may be disappointing to someone who believes that they were promised eternal life. However, what appeals to me is placing the emphasis on life -- this life -- in the face of inevitable death. Life is the top value here, not death. We have to work with reality as it actually exists, not as we might like it to exist.
Whether it appeals to me or not is not at issue. All I am saying is that this life has meaning without the need for eternal life, and that the top value is life.
Let us know when you have something other than empty assertions to back your claims.
Atheism doesn't make any positive claims as to the existence or non-existence of deities.
Again, not accounting for the possibility you are wrong. If you are wrong and you dedicate your whole life essentially to something which will never happen, is that not a life wasted?
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