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The devil is in the footnotes...

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Michie, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    The misguided footnotes in the New American Bible stands for so much that has been wrong in practice of the faith by American Catholics these last several decades. I do not mean merely the age-old temptation, of someone who has a narrow technical skill, to speak as if an authority on broad and important matters.

    The devil is in the footnotes...
     
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  2. Chany

    Chany Uncertain Absurdist

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    I always felt something was off when I read those footnotes. This explains it. So what should we do?
     
  3. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    Last I heard they were revising it.

    I have several translations of Scripture. I rarely use NAB.
     
  4. Chany

    Chany Uncertain Absurdist

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    Really? That's all I have. :(

    Maybe I'll email my old theology teacher the translation and edition he recommended.
     
  5. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    I have several. The Catholic Study Bible, St Jerome's study Bible, & New Jerusalem Study Bible & more. There are a lot out there.
     
  6. Chany

    Chany Uncertain Absurdist

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    I want to say St. Ignatius, but I'm not sure.
     
  7. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    Yeah there is a St. Ignatius study Bible.
     
  8. the person on that blog does not understand what the passage is about. It has nothing to do with dependence or innocence.
     
  9. JBMM

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    This is why I switched to the NRSV-CE.

    :p
     
  10. FullyMT

    FullyMT Veni Sancte Spiritus

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    Footnotes are one author's interpretation and analysis of the text. They are not the "end all to be all" of an interpretation and anybody who considers them as such is a lunatic. If you want full analysis, get a commentary of the Book from Scripture.
    His fourth issue misses the point entirely. A young child is very dependent on their parents. We are called to have child-like faith, that is, complete dependence on God. Look at Jesus' relationship with the Father, you will see complete reliance.
     
  11. Wolseley

    Wolseley Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu

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    I like the notes in the old Challoner Edition of the Douay-Rheims. :)
     
  12. Cosmic Charlie

    Cosmic Charlie The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated

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    Um......

    .....The NAB has an imprinteur.

    I don't understand how this person can just dismiss the footnotes as incorrect.

    I've be accused of Protestantism for less then this.

    Yet here, it's ok.

    Hmmmm...
     
  13. BBCath

    BBCath Catholic...

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    It's one person's opinion on footnotes in a bible translation approved by the U.S. Bishops.

    Let's see...

    This random guy's opinion vs the US Bishops...

    Hmmm. Which one do you choose... :insert thinking smiley:
     
  14. MKJ

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    Well, St Augustine is pretty clear that he doesn't think even infants are innocent. Near the beginning of the Confessions he says he has seen an infant go pale with rage at seeing a foster brother at the nurse's breast, and that the infant would have killed the foster-child if he had the power.

    While he wasn't commenting particularly on that passage, I do not think it is accurate to say that the inherited teaching of the Church is that infants are innocent.
     
  15. QuantaCura

    QuantaCura Rejoice always.

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    In Catholicism, a higher authority trumps a lower one; therefore, it is not Protestant to say a footnote in a Bible edition is wrong--even with an imprimatur, if it is contradicted elsewhere by a higher authority.

    For example, let's look at 1 Cor. 3:15. Traditionally, 1 Cor. 3:15, has been understood by the Church to refer to Purgatory, as the CCC notes.
    Pope Benedict XVI's encyclical Spe Salvi provides the latest example of this traditional intepretation:

    But the NAB footnote says this:

    The NAB footnote says the Church has been misinterpreting this passage. Oops.
     
  16. Chany

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    Also, we should define what we mean by "innocence," and whether or not we are looking too deep into the analogy.
     
  17. FullyMT

    FullyMT Veni Sancte Spiritus

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    I think the point of footnotes is to get to a meaning of the passage as it was meant by the author. The NAB footnote for 1 Cor 3:15 does not negate the fact that it can and is interpreted as a proof for purgatory, but simply that, perhaps, that is not what Paul meant in the letter.
     
  18. Chany

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    Yes, but the Bishops are supposedly doing that. If Paul did not mean purgatory, then the Bishops are wrong about the interpretation of the verse, and must be corrected.
     
  19. noprem

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    I'm surprised to see so many Catholics disagreeing with the NAB's expositor. Don't you baptize infants so sin won't cost them Heaven? And not original sin, since the Bible assures many times that we are "born in sin". That the imperfect heart we inherited from Adam leads to death without Jesus' ransom? "The heart is perverse above all things, and unsearchable, who can know it?" "Wherefore as by one nman sin entered into this world and by sin death: and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned." (Jeremiah; Paul)
    And aren't you folks supposed to trust in Augustine's judgment?
    What is your loss if there is just a single reason for Jesus' statement; we are infact "grasshoppers" in God's sight, and must follow his instructions as a young child follows his parents' leadings. "O that you had hearkened to my commandments: your peace had been as a river, and your justice as the waves of the sea". (Isiah) All quotes Douay.
    Doug
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2012
  20. MoreCoffee

    MoreCoffee Repentance works.

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    I like the footnotes in the NAB. I do not see any good reason to get worked up about them; and besides that, you do not need to read and accept what is written in a particular footnote.
     
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