The Destruction of Babylon

[buchalady]

Believe what you will madam.

K.

It is an interesting study, but I don't get too serious about it. If it had been important for our salvation today, it would not have been written in code 2000 years ago.

 

[JHM]

I got very serious about it after I discovered the "Nicolaitans Code". Out of curiosity how do you interpret the "Seven Headed Beast" which is ridden by a harlot dressed in purple and scarlet with the name "Babylon" upon her forehead ?

 

[Steve Petersen]

I got very serious about it after I discovered the "Nicolaitans Code". Out of curiosity how do you interpret the "Seven Headed Beast" which is ridden by a harlot dressed in purple and scarlet with the name "Babylon" upon her forehead ?

Seven headed beast: Check out 'Leviathan' in the Jewish Encyclopedia

 

[JHM]

The "Leviathan" is something else.

 

[Kermmie]

Kermmie:
Hillah in Central Iraq.

 

[JHM]

Wrong. See Zechariah 5 : 5-11 and also see Isaiah 47 :

NOTE : This post has been edited to correct the verse numbers referred to in Zecharaih.

 

[Kermmie]

Wrong. See Zechariah 5 : 5-22 and also see Isaiah 47 :

Kermmie: JHM, who are you replying to. And there is no Zechariah 5:22. Can you explain further. Thanks.

 

[JHM]

My appologies, I should have said Zechariah 5 : 5 - 11. My eyesight isn't as good as it was when I created my scripture studies document, and I used "Superscripts" for the verse numbers.

The point though is that the "Babylon" which is to be destroyed is no longer the "Original Babylon".
Zechariah 5 : 5 - 11 tells the story of a wicked woman, (harlot), being stuffed in a basket then flown to the plains of "Shinar", (Babylon), where a house was built for her, (New International Version), or where they mean to build a temple for her and put her on a "Plinth", - (Pedestal), Jerusalem Bible.

While Isaiah 47 : refers to "The Daughter Of Babylon" and "The Daughter of the Chaldeans". i.e. no longer the original Babylon, but rather its "Spiritual Descendant". If you study ALL the material pertaining to Babylon that appears in the Bible thoroughly, (which I have), you will come to the conclusion that it cannot have anything to do with Iraq.

 

[Kermmie]

My appologies, I should have said Zechariah 5 : 5 - 11. My eyesight isn't as good as it was when I created my scripture studies document, and I used "Superscripts" for the verse numbers.

The point though it that the "Babylon" which is to be destroyed is no longer the "Original Babylon".
Zechariah 5 : 5 - 11 tells the story of a wicked woman, (harlot), being stuffed in a basket then flown to the plains of "Shinar", (Babylon), where a house was built for her, (New International Version), or where they mean to build a temple for her and put her on a "Plinth", - (Pedestal), Jerusalem Bible.

While Isaiah 47 : refers to "The Daughter Of Babylon" and "The Daughter of the Chaldeans". i.e. no longer the original Babylon, but rather its "Spiritual Descendant". If you study ALL the material pertaining to Babylon that appears in the Bible thoroughly, (which I have), you will come to the conclusion that it cannot have anything to do with Iraq.

Kermmie: I sent you a reply to your message and they blocked it because one has to have 15 posts and I have 14. Maybe another day I will view your work, but now is not the time. Thank you for offering it. Perhaps you will get my message when this goes through. I believe a new headquarters (for the Antichrist) will be built somewhere near where ancient Babylon was. This the Antichrist will do before he decides to make havoc in Jerusalem with the Abomination of Desolation thingy. The Antichrist is called the Assyrian. I also believe Syria will have something to do with the revitalization. So, I believe there is a spiritual Babylon and a literal one. The new one is going to be utterly destroyed supernaturally via an earthquake, made totally desolate.

 

[JHM]

Kermmie : Unfortunately your reply has not come through. Since you now have 15 posts perhaps you could try again.

 

[Laura Phillips]

are you saying all catholics are an abomination, or just the catholic church?
the child molesters were pretty abominable but the devout and sweet saints....I wish I had that much compassion!

ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[JHM]

@ Laura Phillips : If you are referring to me, go back to page one of this thread where you will find a post that I made which gives reasons why Babylon cannot be the "Catholic Church".

 

[Laura Phillips]

was replying on those who posted such

 

[Laura Phillips]

here or elswhere
it has been said

 

[Laura Phillips]

by my su nday school teacher!

 

[JHM]

Back to the point : Would anyone at this site like me to PM them my "Re Babylon Short Form" document ? It is 4 pages long; and contains my basic conclusions re Babylon. I also have a 38 page "Intermediate Version" which I can email to those who find my "Short Form" version sufficiently compelling that they regard it as being worth seeing.

 

[ragavang43]

he Eternal City is heavenly Jerusalem.

 

[ragavang43]

They have these things because they don't have the Power of The Holy Spirit.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Scripture tells us who it is:

Revelation 17:18

The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

The great city is Rome, which was the greatest city on Earth at the time, and which is confirmed by this verse:

Revelation 17:9

This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

Rome is famously built upon seven hills. This also matches the prophecy of daniel concerning the revived roman empire. Metaphorically, women symbolize churches in scripture, and the church in Rome, which still is, is the catholic church. Therefore the harlot of babylon is the Catholic church.

Even the catholic encyclopedia argues Rome is babylon:

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles

The Catholic Church is on the Vatican, which is one hill in Rome. The Catholic Church is not built upon seven hills.

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Even the catholic encyclopedia argues Rome is babylon:

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles

References in scripture to Babylon was usually code for Rome, which was the capital of the Roman Empire which was incredibly cruel to Christians.

Unfortunately, some Christians have interpreted scripture it a funny way to believe that the writers of the NT really meant the Catholic Church. Much of it was used to justify the discrimination and persecution of Catholics, especially in the United States. Thus, when bricks were thrown at Catholic kids leaving Church, it was considered okay, because they thought God hated them, they were an abomination and he was going to send them to hell and burn all their churches anyways.

Really, it was just about hating people that were slightly different from them and came from a different country. But that does not justify harming and killing people, so you need to make up a good story about how their faith is evil so you can be cruel to them. Oh well, Jesus told us that this would be.