The Democrats have only themselves to blame.

[jgarden]

Pelosi Says Democrats Have ‘Pulled Back a Veil’ on Trump’s ‘Unacceptable’ Behavior

While opinions like this capture our attention the back story is routinely ignored.

If the Democratic Party and their voters hadn't elected Barack Obama for president Donald Trump would never have appeared on the political horizon. Trump is a direct result of the failed policies of eight years of Obama.

The title is also interesting, as Trump actually pulled back the curtain on the Biden's shady dealings.

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Why are Trump supporters so interested in Biden's "shady dealings" BUT don't want to know any of the details when this President is caught soliciting "dirt" on his political opponent from a foreign leader?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Why are Trump supporters so interested in Biden's "shady dealings" BUT don't want to know any of the details when this President is caught soliciting "dirt" on his political opponent from a foreign leader?

Trump didn't throw the first punch.

 

[Aldebaran]

Why are Trump supporters so interested in Biden's "shady dealings" BUT don't want to know any of the details when this President is caught soliciting "dirt" on his political opponent from a foreign leader?

That was Adam Schiff's narrative. The truth came out in the Senate trial and the president was acquitted.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I'm not so sure about that. The reason I've always left the "ic" off of democrat is because their party is not very democratic anymore. It is becoming more left with each election, and now we even see "Independents" like Bernie Sanders fitting in quite nicely with that party even though he calls himself a Socialist. They seem to accept that title as being fitting for someone running on the democrat ticket. What if he wins? It would only bring the party even further to the left--so much that the party would need to adopt a new name.

I think what is different this time is the offer of so much free stuff proposed by most of the Dem candidates. Some complain that Bloomberg is trying to buy his way into the candidacy, but they are really doing the same thing, but with taxpayer money.

 

[jgarden]

That was Adam Schiff's narrative. The truth came out in the Senate trial and the president was acquitted.

How could the :truth" come out when the Senate Republican majority refused to subpoena documents and witnesses!

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton who had first-hand knowledge volunteered to testify but Senate Republicans collectively put a lid on anything that might contradict this President's narrative!

Without any effective checks on this President's behavior, how long will Republicans be willing to look the other way as he steadily erodes the constitutional safeguards!

 

[The Barbarian]

What if he wins?

If he does, he should give an inaugural ball invitation to...

Trump has convinced an entire generation of voters that he represents capitalism. The result?

70% of millennials say they'd vote for a socialist
https://www.axios.com/millennials-v...ine-60c8a6aa-5353-45c4-9191-2de1808dc661.html

That will, in all likelihood, be Trump's lasting legacy.

 

[Gregorikos]

So, this was only your opinion, which you have facts to back it up.

Since when wasn't Megyn Kelly mainstream media? Fox is mainstream.

If you re-read my comment, I initially said Megyn was the only one of the MSM to take on Trump during the primaries.

I then qualified that, because not everyone considers Fox New Channel as MSM.

 

[Yarddog]

If you re-read my comment, I initially said Megyn was the only one of the MSM to take on Trump during the primaries.

I then qualified that, because not everyone considers Fox New Channel as MSM.

Your post, though, says: "The big exception being Megyn Kelly, who also wasnt included in the MSM."

The only ones that I've heard excluding Fox or for that matter, all conservative news, are right wingers. Of course, there were others that took on Trump at Fox. They just changed their tunes after Trump got the nomination. Those that didn't change have been leaving Fox over the past three years.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

If he does, he should give an inaugural ball invitation to...

Trump has convinced an entire generation of voters that he represents capitalism. The result?

70% of millennials say they'd vote for a socialist
70% of millennials say they'd vote for a socialist - Axios

That will, in all likelihood, be Trump's lasting legacy.

Based on the article Millennials are a mess. No wonder they want socialism. They are having serious health, and wealth, problems. Problems that are totally unnecessary here. What they don't understand is that socialism will seriously limit their upward mobility much more than what they consider to be the inequities of capitalism.

 

[The Barbarian]

Based on the article Millennials are a mess.

Pretty much like the executive branch.

No wonder they want socialism.

They've become convinced that Trump and corruption are the alternatives. And they look at states like Finland and Sweden, and see how much better it could be.

They are having serious health, and wealth, problems.

Even those that don't, are having problems. My daughter and her husband are in their 20s. They have good degrees from good schools, and have good jobs. They are putting off buying a house or even considering children until they can pay off their school loans. My boys are considerably older than she is, and they had no such problems. Our college funds were adequate at one time, but they couldn't cover things as they are now.

Problems that are totally unnecessary here. What they don't understand is that socialism will seriously limit their upward mobility much more than what they consider to be the inequities of capitalism.

Again, they look at Finland and Sweden, and presently, we suffer a great deal in comparison. With a broken economic system and a corrupt executive branch, our way doesn't look so good under Trump. Socialism might indeed be Trump's one lasting legacy. And they notice that upward mobility in other nations is much less difficult than it has become here.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

They've become convinced that Trump and corruption are the alternatives. And they look at states like Finland and Sweden, and see how much better it could be.

Finland and Sweden have capitalistic economies but with high taxes and strong social programs.

Even those that don't, are having problems. My daughter and her husband are in their 20s. They have good degrees from good schools, and have good jobs. They are putting off buying a house or even considering children until they can pay off their school loans. My boys are considerably older than she is, and they had no such problems. Our college funds were adequate at one time, but they couldn't cover things as they are now.

College grads will earn substantial incomes over their lifetimes, so repaying student loans shouldn't be a problem.

Again, they look at Finland and Sweden, and presently, we suffer a great deal in comparison. With a broken economic system and a corrupt executive branch, our way doesn't look so good under Trump. Socialism might indeed be Trump's one lasting legacy. And they notice that upward mobility in other nations is much less difficult than it has become here.

The U.S. will never become a socialist nation in our lifetime. Our system isn't broken, it's just that the 'cookie cutter' life being sold to our kids isn't producing the advertised results.

Those who go to college have more motives than just money, and they have to accept the consequences of those motives. If someone wants to earn lots of money college is not the best place to start.

My son has a huge student loan debt and a degree that he can't use. Jobs are available in his field but he would have to relocate. His wife is a cardiac nurse with good pay and benefits and she will not give that up, take their kids out of their school, and move across the country just to be a 'dutiful' wife. The irony is that he has worked as a concrete finisher and makes more money than his degreed profession would pay. His whole college experience and cost was a waste of time and money given his circumstance.

 

[The Barbarian]

Finland and Sweden have capitalistic economies but with high taxes and strong social programs.

Yep. That's Bernie Sander's idea, too. The reason that millennials have accepted it, is that those societies are doing so much better than ours is right now.

As I said, Trump has convinced them, he represents capitalism. Can't blame them for believing it.

College grads will earn substantial incomes over their lifetimes, so repaying student loans shouldn't be a problem.

It's a huge problem. If you don't get it, do some research. I had kids in college over a 22 year period, and it was very obvious to me that things were getting worse and worse.

The U.S. will never become a socialist nation in our lifetime.

That may indeed be Trump's only lasting legacy. He's the best thing to happen to socialism, since Sweden.

 

[The Barbarian]

My son has a huge student loan debt and a degree that he can't use. Jobs are available in his field but he would have to relocate. His wife is a cardiac nurse with good pay and benefits and she will not give that up, take their kids out of their school, and move across the country just to be a 'dutiful' wife. The irony is that he has worked as a concrete finisher and makes more money than his degreed profession would pay. His whole college experience and cost was a waste of time and money given his circumstance.

My youngest son got a degree in art history. He handles inventory issues for a medium-sized corporation, and does very well, having implemented new programs to control expenses and loss; he's had several people hired on his recommendation to make it happen.

Like your son, he's found his way, and the experience he had in getting his degree was not wasted. I have another son who got his degree in English. He handles customer service systems for a start-up. I have another son who got a teaching degree. He's a lawyer.

I have one daughter who got a degree in human performance. She's a professional soccer coach, and administers a club. Another daughter has a degree in actuarial science; she does financial something or other for a media company.

Many of the jobs that kids in college will be doing after they graduate, don't yet exist. That's how it works now.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yep. That's Bernie Sander's idea, too. The reason that millennials have accepted it, is that those societies are doing so much better than ours is right now.

You might want to take a closer look at those countries, Finland for example. Finland | Geography, History, Maps, & Facts
No way we'll ever remotely resemble them; a mostly homogenous ethnicity numbering less than 6 million.

As I said, Trump has convinced them, he represents capitalism. Can't blame them for believing it.

I thought they didn't believe it.

It's a huge problem. If you don't get it, do some research. I had kids in college over a 22 year period, and it was very obvious to me that things were getting worse and worse

All I need to know is that college grads earn an average of a $million more in their lifetime than hs grads. That's more than enough to pay off an average of about $30,000 in student debt.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

My youngest son got a degree in art history. He handles inventory issues for a medium-sized corporation, and does very well, having implemented new programs to control expenses and loss; he's had several people hired on his recommendation to make it happen.

Like your son, he's found his way, and the experience he had in getting his degree was not wasted. I have another son who got his degree in English. He handles customer service systems for a start-up. I have another son who got a teaching degree. He's a lawyer.

I have one daughter who got a degree in human performance. She's a professional soccer coach, and administers a club. Another daughter has a degree in actuarial science; she does financial something or other for a media company.

Many of the jobs that kids in college will be doing after they graduate, don't yet exist. That's how it works now.

I think the difference is that my son's degree was not needed to him get into concrete work. I'm guessing that your kid's degrees were useful, if not necessary, in getting the jobs that they have. So while your kid's degrees turned out to be useful my son's has not, not yet anyway.

 

[Fantine]

If he does, he should give an inaugural ball invitation to...

Trump has convinced an entire generation of voters that he represents capitalism. The result?

70% of millennials say they'd vote for a socialist
70% of millennials say they'd vote for a socialist - Axios

That will, in all likelihood, be Trump's lasting legacy.

Trump's lasting legacy will be poisoned air and water, shattered international relations, increased climactic catastrophes, a nation divided by mistrust, and racists and militias emboldened by his rallies.

 

[The Barbarian]

It's going to be long time before we air out the stench of the swamp he installed in the WH.

 

[Aldebaran]

Trump's lasting legacy will be poisoned air and water, shattered international relations, increased climactic catastrophes, a nation divided by mistrust, and racists and militias emboldened by his rallies.

Now you're going to give Trump credit for controlling the weather? Wow! And here I thought the dems have been telling us that WE give him too much credit!

 

[Aldebaran]

It's going to be long time before we air out the stench of the swamp he installed in the WH.

I sure hope so. Smells rather sweet to me!