The Democratic Safe House

[mark46]

Please understand that the election was lost because white middle class and underclass voters in the Rust Belt stayed home. The da,age done by Sanders was never undone. Clinton only needed to win the Rust Belt which has gone Democratic in every election since 1992. Clinton needed to repair the damage done by Sanders in PA, MI, WI and MN.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Please understand that the election was lost because white middle class and underclass voters in the Rust Belt stayed home. The da,age done by Sanders was never undone. Clinton only needed to win the Rust Belt which has gone Democratic in every election since 1992. Clinton needed to repair the damage done by Sanders in PA, MI, WI and MN.

She won the Popular Vote.

And that brings me to my question, is there any point in keeping the Electoral College?

 

[mark46]

She won the Popular Vote.

And that brings me to my question, is there any point in keeping the Electoral College?

The Democrats also won the popular vote in 2000.

Eliminating the electoral college would make small states and rural areas almost irrelevant. Also, there would be nationwide law suits and recounts in every voting district (tens of thousands) every time the election was close. Our founders understood this problem and compromised creating a Senate to balance the House, and an Electoral College to balance the popular vote of the large states.

 

[FreeinChrist]

So anyone checking out the protests around the country tonight? I would like to an article but some signs are not good.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

So anyone checking out the protests around the country tonight? I would like to an article but some signs are not good.

Yes, I have been watching them. Thousands of people out in the streets protesting against Trump.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

It looks like the ACLU is more than ready for a fight against Donald Trump too.

If Donald Trump Implements His Proposed Policies, We’ll See Him in Court

 

[mark46]

So anyone checking out the protests around the country tonight? I would like to an article but some signs are not good.

yes, thousands in dozens of cities

They needed to protest yesterday by getting out the vote.

 

[mark46]

It looks like the ACLU is more than ready for a fight against Donald Trump too.

If Donald Trump Implements His Proposed Policies, We’ll See Him in Court

Yes, the ACLU will be vigilant as they always are.

Unfortunately, Trump may choose to reverse all the executive orders that helped protect the rights of gays and others.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Yes, the ACLU will be vigilant as they always are.

Unfortunately, Trump may choose to reverse all the executive orders that helped protect the rights of gays and others.

It literally makes me sick to think about all the damage he can and will do during the next four years.

 

[DaisyDay]

It literally makes me sick to think about all the damage he can and will do during the next four years.

Me, too, but figuratively. But the opposition felt the same way about Clinton. An awful lot of them believe the lies told.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Trump's morality is fully acceptable to Republicans and other evangelicals. That's just the way it is.

Let's remember that this forum is not to insult or flame Trump supporters or evangelicals, as wrong as we believe they are in their choice.

Most Trump supporters are moral and look for a conservative court.
And it was the failure of the Democrats to vote, thinking Hillary had it in the bag or malaise in believing Trump did not have a chance, that caused her loss.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Let's remember that this forum is not to insult or flame Trump supporters or evangelicals, as wrong as we believe they are in their choice.

It really was not my intention to flame or insult Trump supporters by what I said yesterday. I was only trying to express my confusion and disappointment. Admittedly, I am still baffled how evangelical Christians could support that man, but it is what it is. The damage has already been done and I fear it will only get much worse from here for the next four years.

Most Trump supporters are moral and look for a conservative court.

But most Trump supporters are the ones who complained about Bill Clinton's sexual immorality and scandals, but they voted for Donald Trump. We all know what he is like and what he has done and has said about women. They lack consistency here.

And it was the failure of the Democrats to vote, thinking Hillary had it in the bag or malaise in believing Trump did not have a chance, that caused her loss.

Maybe you are right. I do not like her either. The dominant two party political system has to be challenged and changed. And I went back and edited a couple of my posts here. I realize I was emotional yesterday and not very level headed while posting.

 

[mark46]

Let's remember that this forum is not to insult or flame Trump supporters or evangelicals, as wrong as we believe they are in their choice.

Most Trump supporters are moral and look for a conservative court.
And it was the failure of the Democrats to vote, thinking Hillary had it in the bag or malaise in believing Trump did not have a chance, that caused her loss.

Is this an insult or simply a fact. During the campaign, many evangelical leaders proudly pointed out that we were not electing a "pastor in chief". Make no mistake, Trump's past behavior was not a barrier to them voting for Trump. the behavior was acceptable.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Keith Ellison was endorsed by Bernie Sanders to be the DNC chair. He is very well liked in his district here. I can get behind this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-ellison-dnc-sanders_us_5824dfd6e4b0f616ef303153

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Is this an insult or simply a fact. During the campaign, many evangelical leaders proudly pointed out that we were not electing a "pastor in chief". Make no mistake, Trump's past behavior was not a barrier to them voting for Trump. the behavior was acceptable.

I agree with you, Mark.

As an example, here is a meme quoting James Dobson concerning Trump. He apparently had a change of heart.

 

[Deviant Writer]

Is this an insult or simply a fact. During the campaign, many evangelical leaders proudly pointed out that we were not electing a "pastor in chief". Make no mistake, Trump's past behavior was not a barrier to them voting for Trump. the behavior was acceptable.

But then don't want to vote for Democrats because we aren't close enough to God.

In other news, nice little exchange I had today today. Heard this programmed conservative talking point.

"Obama sent race relations back 50 years."

It's something we've all heard from time to time.

So I asked. "What has Trump done for race relations?"

"Nothing! He's the lesser of two evils."

No point in making a list of all that's wrong with that statement, the number of people Trump has offended and potentially put in danger.

 

[pat34lee]

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[FreeinChrist]

This is interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/safety-pin-trump-brexit_us_58251b53e4b0c4b63b0c11a9


and this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-million-women-march_us_582642efe4b0c4b63b0cbfa5

I would participate if I could

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I would participate in the March too if I could. And the safety pin in solidarity is a good idea.

 

[Vylo]

Please understand that the election was lost because white middle class and underclass voters in the Rust Belt stayed home. The da,age done by Sanders was never undone. Clinton only needed to win the Rust Belt which has gone Democratic in every election since 1992. Clinton needed to repair the damage done by Sanders in PA, MI, WI and MN.

The damage was done by Clinton not Sanders. She was shoved down our throats and this is the result.