The definition of EMBEDDED AGE

[AV1611VET]

So says the biblical author of Genesis who was not an eyewitness.

Um --- try the book of Job; and it was God, Himself speaking --- Who was there:

1 ¶ Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Um --- try the book of Job; and it was God, Himself speaking --- Who was there:

So, some anonymous mythmaker claims to be God and you believe him?

Got a bridge to sell you, AV...

 

[Loudmouth]

Um --- try the book of Job; and it was God, Himself speaking --- Who was there:

So says the author of Job who was not there.

 

[sbvera13]

Completely failing to notice that according to God, the earth has cornerstones.

Now, it looks rather obvious to me that god is using metaphorical language to put Job in his place, and not literally describing the physical structure of the earth. Which now puts us in the place of admitting that god uses metaphorical language. *cough*Genesis*cough*

So, either everything in the bible is literal, and the earth has corners, or god uses metaphorical language, and thus the bible, including genesis, need not be taken literally. Thanks for pointing that verse out to me. I like it.

 

[dad]

Maturity without history.

Keep in mind:

1. Only God can do it.
2. It is an act of omnipotence - not science - and therefore cannot be verified.
3. Since it cannot be verified, documentation would be necessary for clarification.

I can understand that when it comes to Adam, and trees in the garden, and rocks. I have some trouble when it comes to the fossil record, and some things. Do you think He placed fossils in there that never really lived??

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you think He placed fossils in there that never really lived??

Nope --- I do believe He tidied up after the Flood though, and could have had a reason for putting things where they are, and in the order we find them.

 

[dad]

Nope --- I do believe He tidied up after the Flood though, and could have had a reason for putting things where they are, and in the order we find them.

Well, I am not trying to attack your concepts here. They just are not clear to me. God tidied up?? Howso? How did that impact the order of fossils?

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, I am not trying to attack your concepts here.

No problem, bro --- lay it on me if you think I'm wrong.

They just are not clear to me. God tidied up?? Howso? How did that impact the order of fossils?

First of all, I interpret the Flood as global. And when the question of where the water went, of course the Scriptures are silent on the matter - (as far as I know, anyway).

Therefore, assuming that nature couldn't have removed all that water in such a short period of time, and the angels didn't have the power to do it, I conclude that God, and God alone, tidied up the mess after the Flood.

The fossil record, which I've never really studied, and don't know what they "say," could have been "created" by God simply putting them where they are currently found.

It's like this White Cliffs of Dover thing everyone's crying about.

God could have simply piled all the micro-skeletons (whatever they're called) up in one big place --- and there you have it.

I really don't know --- or care.

 

[dad]

First of all, I interpret the Flood as global. And when the question of where the water went, of course the Scriptures are silent on the matter - (as far as I know, anyway).

Therefore, assuming that nature couldn't have removed all that water in such a short period of time, and the angels didn't have the power to do it, I conclude that God, and God alone, tidied up the mess after the Flood.

Me too. I suppose the details are secondary.

The fossil record, which I've never really studied, and don't know what they "say," could have been "created" by God simply putting them where they are currently found.

That is a strange concept to me. Do you think He actually went around arranging fossils deep under the earth? Why?

It's like this White Cliffs of Dover thing everyone's crying about.

God could have simply piled all the micro-skeletons (whatever they're called) up in one big place --- and there you have it.

I really don't know --- or care.

God would pile up skeletons? Literally?

 

[kangitanka]

I really don't know --- or care.

(all emphasis mine)
Creationist quote of the month

But, to his credit, AV is at least WILLING to admit his ignorance and his lack of caring about actual facts and evidence....

...unlike the vast majority of Creationists.

After all, science and reality can both (according to AV1611VET) take a hike. There is a level of honesty there that many (most?) Creationists are not willing to sack up and admit to.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

No problem, bro --- lay it on me if you think I'm wrong.



First of all, I interpret the Flood as global. And when the question of where the water went, of course the Scriptures are silent on the matter - (as far as I know, anyway).

Therefore, assuming that nature couldn't have removed all that water in such a short period of time, and the angels didn't have the power to do it, I conclude that God, and God alone, tidied up the mess after the Flood.

The fossil record, which I've never really studied, and don't know what they "say," could have been "created" by God simply putting them where they are currently found.

It's like this White Cliffs of Dover thing everyone's crying about.

God could have simply piled all the micro-skeletons (whatever they're called) up in one big place --- and there you have it.

I really don't know --- or care.

And what would have been the reason for "tidying up", again?

 

[AV1611VET]

And what would have been the reason for "tidying up", again?

What kind of question is that?

Safety and sanitation come to mind.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

What kind of question is that?

Safety and sanitation come to mind.

I'm not quite sure in what way safety and sanitation depends on the presence or lack of geological features and fossils that would have been both underground and, most importantly, spread over the entire landmass of this planet when you consider that only a dozen people were alive back then. Perhaps you could elaborate.

 

[Paulos23]

What kind of question is that?

Safety and sanitation come to mind.

Then someone should talk to management, God is behind in his janitorial duties for the planet.

 

[Nathan Poe]

What kind of question is that?

Safety and sanitation come to mind.

Because we all know how important it is to clean up after a botched attempt at genocide, right?

 

[Split Rock]

And what would have been the reason for "tidying up", again?

What kind of question is that?

Safety and sanitation come to mind.

Because we all know how important it is to clean up after a botched attempt at genocide, right?

Excuse me, Mr. Atheist Scientick. HE had HIS reasons for cleaning up HIS mess. HE has revealed these reasons to HIS prophet on Earth, AV1611VET, through the Holy Spirit. You can either accept these reasons, or reject GOD and live in ignorance of HIS INFALLIBLE WORD as revealed by HIS prophet!

 

[MrGoodBytes]

I still don't get how the safety of a dozen people stranded on Mt. Ararat depends on whether the flood leaves traces in, say, northern Canada.

 

[AV1611VET]

I still don't get how the safety of a dozen people stranded on Mt. Ararat depends on whether the flood leaves traces in, say, northern Canada.

Did it ever occur to you that He may have wanted that water [back] for something else?

 

[Hespera]

Did it ever occur to you that He may have wanted that water [back] for something else?

Have you ever had it occur to you that people in countries like China find your kind of primitive religiosity a source of amusement and wonder? (and contempt)

Have you ever wondered how you would fare among sophisticated and educated people?

(hint) something like a grass skirt savage in the kings court.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Did it ever occur to you that He may have wanted that water [back] for something else?

I see -- God, being a finite being of finite resources, is into recycling.

Good for Him, I say.