The Definition of Dispensationalism

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All you are doing is deflecting.

Rom. 5:6-9.

Maybe I should put to on Ignore? Since.. I see you have been banned in another forum for discussing this same pet subject of yours? I discovered this in another forum with a thread you started with the title. Thread: A28D

It seems to be an obsession of yours... I do not want to waste time with you.
 
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Maybe I should put to on Ignore? Since.. I see you have been banned in another forum for discussing this same pet subject of yours? I discovered this in another forum with a thread you started with the title. Thread: A28D

It seems to be an obsession of yours... I do not want to waste time with you.

More deflection on your part.

Obviously, you well know you haven't an argument against either Acts 9 or Acts 28 Dispensationalism.

For those who actually do want to understand how or why Dispensationalism matters as a Bible Study approach to begin with, the reason why it matters is that it greatly impacts every aspect of the Believer's understanding of his or her walk in the Lord - it greatly impacts one's understanding of the lost; of salvation; of God's will; of how prayer works; of all sorts of everyday life issues; of history; of current events; and so on.

Only the ill-informed and easily exposed by their own words as being prone to conjecture from within a vacuum conclude Dispensationalism is nothing more than a nitpick.

Such often quickly resort to...deflection...after...deflection.

Rom. 5:6-9.
 
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More deflection on your part.

Obviously, you well know you haven't an argument against either Acts 9 or Acts 28 Dispensationalism.

For those who actually do want to understand how or why Dispensationalism matters as a Bible Study approach to begin with, the reason why it matters is that it greatly impacts every aspect of the Believer's understanding of his or her walk in the Lord - it greatly impacts one's understanding of the lost; of salvation; of God's will; of how prayer works; of all sorts of everyday life issues; of history; of current events; and so on.

Only the ill-informed and easily exposed by their own words as being prone to conjecture from within a vacuum conclude Dispensationalism is nothing more than a nitpick.

Such often quickly resort to...deflection...after...deflection.

Rom. 5:6-9.

Again... you do not know what I believe. You are just itching for a fight. So, you must imagine someone fighting you.

Acts 9 speaks of a major phase the church went through on its way to discovering the new way of life in Christ and maturity. Paul was called of God and was to go one to become the recipient of the mystery doctrines that would reshape the thinking of everyone who believed in the Lord. Up until then the OT Scriptures were essentially all they had to study from.

Acts 28 can be misconstrued to mean that Jews have been excluded from church age faith. It was the turning point where God was no longer to recruit Jews as His means to preach to the world, as He had prior to Acts 28. Many Jews were no longer preached to because of their apostasy that was widespread amongst them. But, keep in mind. The twelves apostles that continued to spread the Gospel? They were Jews by origin. And, the NT was written by Jews... with one exception - Luke.

So, God was not through with the Jews altogether after Acts 28. For it was by twelve Jews that God kept promoting the Gospel to anyone willing to hear.
 
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Again... you do not know what I believe. You are just itching for a fight. So, you must imagine someone fighting you.

Acts 9 speaks of a major phase the church went through on its way to discovering the new way of life in Christ and maturity. Paul was called of God and was to go one to become the recipient of the mystery doctrines that would reshape the thinking of everyone who believed in the Lord. Up until then the OT Scriptures were essentially all they had to study from.

Acts 28 can be misconstrued to mean that Jews have been excluded from church age faith. It was the turning point where God was no longer to recruit Jews as His means to preach to the world, as He had prior to Acts 28. Many Jews were no longer preached to because of their apostasy that was widespread amongst them. But, keep in mind. The twelves apostles that continued to spread the Gospel? They were Jews by origin. And, the NT was written by Jews... with one exception - Luke.

So, God was not through with the Jews altogether after Acts 28. For it was by twelve Jews that God kept promoting the Gospel to anyone willing to hear.


So, what do you believe? Why are you on this thread? Have you contributed to "The Definition of Dispensationalism" or, are you here to just give everybody a hard time? It's obvious from what you just said that you know zilch about the subject.

25 Mostly Dispensational Questions

1-What exactly is the Gospel you speak of that the 12 were preaching?
2-Was the purpose of Acts to start a church or was it to convert Israel?
3-What would have happened if Israel, as a nation, had accepted Christ?
4-What is your definition of Dispensationalism?
5-Why hasn't Christ returned?
6-Can we expect Christ to return at any moment?
7-Is Biblical prophecy being fulfilled today? Examples? Proof?
8-Is the Great Commission for the church today? Chapter and verse?
9-Where does it say God was not through with the Jews after Acts 28?
10-Why did Paul pronounce Isa 6:9-10 in Acts 28:25-27 to the Pharisees?
11-What does Acts 28:28 mean?
12-Didn't the Gentiles have the salvation of God before Acts 28:28 ?
13-Did any group, during or before Acts, ever have a hope of Heaven? Chapter and verse?
14-Were there any Gentiles in the church before Acts 10, 8 years after Pentecost?
15-Should we Gentiles obey those 4 required ordinances given in Acts 15?
16-Why were Gentiles allowed into the Acts Church?
17-Was there a Gentile church at any time during Acts?
18-What is the purpose of Rightly Dividing God's Word pf Truth in 2Tim 2:15?
19-What is the purpose of trying (testing) the things that differ (see Strong's - Phil 1:1O)?
20-Did the present day Church start at Pentecost, in Acts 2?
21-Did the Church replace Israel?
22-Is the Kingdom of Heaven the hope of the Church?
23-Is the New Covenant in effect for the Church today?
24-Has anyone besides Christ ascended to Heaven? Chapter and verse?
25-Does the Gospel taught by Christ apply to the Church today?

How old are you?
 
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So, what do you believe? Why are you on this thread? Have you contributed to "The Definition of Dispensationalism" or, are you here to just give everybody a hard time? It's obvious from what you just said that you know zilch about the subject.

What exactly is the Gospel you speak of that the 12 were preaching?
Was the purpose of Acts to start a church or was it to convert Israel?
What would have happened if Israel, as a nation, had accepted Christ?
What is your definition of Dispensationalism?
Where does it say God was not through with the Jews after Acts 28?
Why did Paul pronounce Isa 6:9-10 in Acts 28:25-27 to the Pharisees?
What does Acts 28:28 mean?
Didn't the Gentiles have the salvation of God before Acts 28:28 ?
Did any group, during or before Acts, ever have a hope of Heaven? Chapter and verse?
Were there any Gentiles in the church before Acts 10, 8 years after Pentecost?
Should we Gentiles obey those 4 required ordinances given in Acts 15?
Why were Gentiles allowed into the Acts Church?
Was there a Gentile church at any time during Acts?
What is the purpose of Rightly Dividing God's Word pf Truth in 2Tim 2:15?
What is the purpose of trying (testing) the things that differ (see Strong's - Phil 1:1O).
How old are you?

The purpose in understanding "dispensations" is so that someone today can teach out from the "context" of the times in which something was written.

As far as I can tell? You call too many things dispensations... You seem to be organizing a chronology of church history of what took place in its various stages as the young church went through its inevitable transformation out from the age of the Jews into the new age of the church. We are to be aware of these stages so no one teaches we are to live that way today.

The Church age is the Dispensation we live in. A subset is not a dispensation in itself, but can be if you want. Some become obsessed with hyper-dispensationalism. That's OK, too..If they are a super detail type person, as long as it does not become your obsession and becomes interjected into everything you talk about.
 
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21-Did the Church replace Israel?

Israel shall return. The Church at present is the body of believers that God is using to evangelize the world. Before the Church age it was Israel who held that honor (and failed). Just like much of the Church is failing today. Its cyclic in nature.

In the future Israel will once again hold preeminence amongst the peoples on the New Earth during the Millennium.

God is not done with Israel. Its like in a war we first send in the Marines. Then the regular Army comes in after them to do the mopping up. That does not mean the Marines were disbanded after the Army takes over.

Zechariah 8:23 tells us... In the future God will have Israel return as His representative people of the world (ruled under the throne of David, that Jesus will sit upon) ...

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people
from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by
the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we

have heard that God is with you.’”

The Church has not replaced the Jews permanently. The Church has only taken over a function once delegated to the Jews by God. For the Jews in the future will be returned to the position they once held. This time with great glory. At the time when the Jews are returned, the Church will have become the rulers of the New Earth with Christ as the Head.
(but only those in the Church who were faithful to do God's will).
 
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Ac, what is the Ac28 position on what the following is referring to?

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Just wondering what the Ac28 position is on it.

Hopefully, you won't deflect again, lol.

Proverbs 27: 17

Rom. 14:5; Rom. 5:6-9.
 
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Ac, what is the Ac28 position on what the following is referring to?

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Just wondering what the Ac28 position is on it.

Hopefully, you won't deflect again, lol.

Proverbs 27: 17

Rom. 14:5; Rom. 5:6-9.

Gal 3:8 was for another people, for another time. Of course, Gal was applicable during Acts and, since everything in Paul's Acts writings was based on the OT (Acts 26:22), Gal was also. Gal 3:8 backs that up. Paul's after-Acts writings, however, were totally brand new and nothing concerning them ever appeared in the OT. Everything in the after-Acts epistles was a mystery hid in God since the world began. The word "Abraham" and the phrase,"it is written", don't appear once after Acts, although they appear in Paul's 6 Acts epistles 19 and 31 times, respectively. Totally different dispensation today - different hope, different Calling. Nothing in Gal 3:8 applies directly to anyone today, since it is found in the OT and the only blessings the Gentiles ever heard of in the OT were future promises THROUGH Israel. The Gentiles NEVER had anything of their own until Paul revealed the Mystery in Eph. We're in a state of pure grace today. During all of Acts, the Gentiles in the church were grafted into Israel and were therefore part of Israel, with 4 ordinances they had to keep from Ac 15. It was far from pure Grace, during Acts, for the Gentiles.

Paul, in Acts, was doing the same thing at the end as he did at the beginning of his ministry. Going to the Jew first and healing, as late as Acts 28, and he said in Acts 28:20 that he was bound for the hope of Israel - not Gentiles. The ONLY purpose of Acts was to convert Israel, as a nation, to accept Christ as the promised Messiah. That's why Paul went to the Jew first. That was what the gifts were all about and that's the ONLY reason that Gentiles were allowed to be part of the all-Israel church, so they would provoke Israel to jealousy. Christ said in Mt 23:39 that Israel would never see Him again until they accepted Him - also see Ac 3:19-21 and those verses that talk about John the Baptist being Elijah, had Israel repented.

RIGHT DIVISION
I believe that, since everything before the end of Acts was all based on OT scripture and nothing after Acts was based on the OT, the verses about right division and testing things that differ, both of which appear after Acts, only apply to something that's different after Acts as opposed to before the end of Acts. Of course, the most obvious difference is that, during Acts and before, everything was all-Israel. After Acts, nothing is Israel - everything today is, in essence, Gentile. The things Israel was given during Acts and before are totally different than what the Gentiles are given after Acts, i.e., New Jerusalem vs Heaven where Christ now sits; The Rapture vs the Appearing; Gifts vs No Gifts; Chosen since the world began vs Before the world began, Etc., etc, etc. Combined together, Acts and after-Acts scripture would be full of contradictory things. If we believe both are about us and TO us, things are confusing and we are forced to pick and choose. That's why we have a jillion denominations and why confusion runs rampant in Christendom. That's why we are approved unto God if we RIGHTLY divide and remove all this Jewish stuff from our doctrine

I think that rightly dividing (make a straight cut, correctly cut, correctly dissect) God's Word is only meant to be used once, for the sole purpose of eliminating all those things given ONLY to Israel from our doctrine. Just a single cut in the correct place will do it. Logically, the cut must be in a place where 100% Israel is on one side of the cut and ZERO PERCENT Israel is on the other side of the cut. There's only one place in the Bible where that will work - after ALL-Israel Acts has ended and NO-Israel after-Acts has started. Acts 2 is certainly not the place to make this single cut, since the first Gentile to be in the church was Cornelius, 8 years after Pentecost. Also, Acts 2 was prophesied - remember Joel? Acts 9 won't work because, just like before Acts 9, there is no change after Acts 9. As late as Acts 28, Paul still goes to the Jew first, still has the Gifts, only preaches on things based on the OT, and is bound solely for the hope of Israel. After Acts, it is a completely different story - Israel, as a nation, no longer exists; There are no Gifts; Nothing is based on the OT. I sometimes think that we in the after Acts church, the only ones said to be chosen BEFORE the world began, were actually there in Heaven with Christ, before the world began.

I also believe that the reason A9D always like to debate with A28D is that we're the only ones you can never convince, once we thoroughly understand that any interpretation method other than A28D is totally impossible, for the truthseeker. A28D is the only method that totally works and totally eliminates contradictions and pick-and-choose Christianity. If the Denominational System were to suddenly all rightly divide at the only possible place, at the end of Acts, there would be no need for all these denominations. Everybody would be preaching the same thing, the ONLY truth TO and ABOUT those of us living today, Paul's 7 post-Acts books - only 31 total pages in my Bible.

To those who are not dispensationalists: Dispensationalism doesn't mean that books of the Bible are taken away from you. I spend more time reading and studying those all-Israel 59 books than I do with the only books written directly to me, Paul 7 post-Acts epistles. Ezekiel is my main interest right now. All 66 books are extremely valuable for our learning. The only things that dispensationalism removes are those things from your mind that were given to Israel, but never given to Gentiles. You never had those things anyway, you just thought you did. Israel were God's chosen people for nearly 2000years, while the Gentiles, during that time, received absolutely nothing, unless they were blessed through Israel by becoming a proselyte. During Acts, for the first time since Gen 12, the Gentiles shared in just a few of Israel's blessings, by being grafted into Israel. However, until the end of Acts, the Gentiles never had anything of their own - never! About half of the things you think you have, all belong to Israel and you will NEVER get them, no matter what you believe. Your true Gentile blessings for today, as found ONLY in Paul's post-Acts books, are infinitely better anyway. Why do you want or need that Jewish stuff?
 
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The purpose in understanding "dispensations" is so that someone today can teach out from the "context" of the times in which something was written.

As far as I can tell? You call too many things dispensations... You seem to be organizing a chronology of church history of what took place in its various stages as the young church went through its inevitable transformation out from the age of the Jews into the new age of the church. We are to be aware of these stages so no one teaches we are to live that way today.

The Church age is the Dispensation we live in. A subset is not a dispensation in itself, but can be if you want. Some become obsessed with hyper-dispensationalism. That's OK, too..If they are a super detail type person, as long as it does not become your obsession and becomes interjected into everything you talk about.
"Church age" is a meaningless term not found in scripture. Ekklesia, the Greek word poorly translated as "church" is a generic word meaning an assembly of like minded people. The pagan silversmiths in Ac 19 were an ekklesia, a church, an assembly. ALL mainstream denominational "churches" are actually synagogues that teach Jewish doctrine to Gentiles, who will never get hardly anything that these "churches" tell them they'll get, with the lone exception of salvation.

In a way, though, you are correct in saying "The Church age is the Dispensation we live in." What you don't see is that the dispensation we now live in didn't start until Christ directly revealed the Mystery that was hid in God, to Paul, Eph 3:3, and Paul revealed it to us after the end of Acts, first in the book of Ephesians. If we obey Phil 1:10 and "test the things that differ" (see Strong's), we see that there are a myriad of things different in Paul's post-Acts epistles, as compared with the Acts period.

The major differences:
(1) During Acts, everything Paul taught was based on the OT scriptures - Ac 26:22. After Acts, nothing is based on the OT. It was all a secret hid in God since the world began - Eph 3:9.

(2) During Acts, the Church was all Israel, since all saved Gentiles were grafted into Israel.
After-Acts, the church is essentially all Gentiles, along with a few Jews that believe in Christ

(3) During Acts, the Gentiles had very few blessings and Israel had everything - Rom 9-4.
After Acts, the Gentiles have every Spiritual Blessing possible, in Heaven - Eph 1:3

(4) During Acts, the Calling was, at best, the New Jerusalem, the city that comes down out of Heaven and attaches to the New Earth. The New Jerusalem is not Heaven.
After Acts, the Calling is to Heaven, itself, where Christ sits at God's right hand - Compare Eph 1:20 (Christ) with Eph 2:6 (Us)

(5) During Acts, the resurrection hope that is taught is the so-called rapture, at the 2nd Coming (according to scripture!).
After-Acts, it is the Appearing, a term found only after Acts, when pertaining to Christ - Titus 2:13, 2Tim 4:1,8, 1Tim 6:14, Col 3:4

When things are different, they aren't the same! That's why God told us to test the things that are different - Phil 1:10. After determining the differences, we are to divide (separate) those different things that apply directly to Israel, but not to us Gentiles, by correctly cutting His Word of Truth - 2Tim 2:15. Why else would He tell us to cut it and divide it? The only place in the Bible (from Gen 12 on) that can be cut, in order to divide Israel from the Gentiles, is at the very end of Acts.

Those 5 main differences are absolute proof that the dispensation after Acts is not the same as the dispensation during Acts.

Different Hope (resurrection) + different Calling + different people + different blessings + all in OT vs none in OT = DIFFERENT EVERYTHING!, as far as what Gentiles are given (except Christ and salvation).

I challenge you to find anything given to us Gentiles after Acts that is exactly the same as something given to Gentiles during Acts, or before Acts.
 
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"Church age" is a meaningless term not found in scripture. Ekklesia, the Greek word poorly translated as "church" is a generic word meaning an assembly of like minded people. The pagan silversmiths in Ac 19 were an ekklesia, a church, an assembly. ALL mainstream denominational "churches" are actually synagogues that teach Jewish doctrine to Gentiles, who will never get hardly anything that these "churches" tell them they'll get, with the lone exception of salvation.

In a way, though, you are correct in saying "The Church age is the Dispensation we live in." What you don't see is that the dispensation we now live in didn't start until Christ directly revealed the Mystery that was hid in God, to Paul, Eph 3:3, and Paul revealed it to us after the end of Acts, first in the book of Ephesians. If we obey Phil 1:10 and "test the things that differ" (see Strong's), we see that there are a myriad of things different in Paul's post-Acts epistles, as compared with the Acts period.

The major differences:
(1) During Acts, everything Paul taught was based on the OT scriptures - Ac 26:22. After Acts, nothing is based on the OT. It was all a secret hid in God since the world began - Eph 3:9.

(2) During Acts, the Church was all Israel, since all saved Gentiles were grafted into Israel.
After-Acts, the church is essentially all Gentiles, along with a few Jews that believe in Christ

(3) During Acts, the Gentiles had very few blessings and Israel had everything - Rom 9-4.
After Acts, the Gentiles have every Spiritual Blessing possible, in Heaven - Eph 1:3

(4) During Acts, the Calling was, at best, the New Jerusalem, the city that comes down out of Heaven and attaches to the New Earth. The New Jerusalem is not Heaven.
After Acts, the Calling is to Heaven, itself, where Christ sits at God's right hand - Compare Eph 1:20 (Christ) with Eph 2:6 (Us)

(5) During Acts, the resurrection hope that is taught is the so-called rapture, at the 2nd Coming (according to scripture!).
After-Acts, it is the Appearing, a term found only after Acts, when pertaining to Christ - Titus 2:13, 2Tim 4:1,8, 1Tim 6:14, Col 3:4

When things are different, they aren't the same! That's why God told us to test the things that are different - Phil 1:10. After determining the differences, we are to divide (separate) those different things that apply directly to Israel, but not to us Gentiles, by correctly cutting His Word of Truth - 2Tim 2:15. Why else would He tell us to cut it and divide it? The only place in the Bible (from Gen 12 on) that can be cut, in order to divide Israel from the Gentiles, is at the very end of Acts.

Those 5 main differences are absolute proof that the dispensation after Acts is not the same as the dispensation during Acts.

Different Hope (resurrection) + different Calling + different people + different blessings + all in OT vs none in OT = DIFFERENT EVERYTHING!, as far as what Gentiles are given (except Christ and salvation).

I challenge you to find anything given to us Gentiles after Acts that is exactly the same as something given to Gentiles during Acts, or before Acts.
Ho hum....
 
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"Church age" is a meaningless term not found in scripture. Ekklesia, the Greek word poorly translated as "church" is a generic word meaning an assembly of like minded people. The pagan silversmiths in Ac 19 were an ekklesia, a church, an assembly. ALL mainstream denominational "churches" are actually synagogues that teach Jewish doctrine to Gentiles, who will never get hardly anything that these "churches" tell them they'll get, with the lone exception of salvation.

In a way, though, you are correct in saying "The Church age is the Dispensation we live in." What you don't see is that the dispensation we now live in didn't start until Christ directly revealed the Mystery that was hid in God, to Paul, Eph 3:3, and Paul revealed it to us after the end of Acts, first in the book of Ephesians. If we obey Phil 1:10 and "test the things that differ" (see Strong's), we see that there are a myriad of things different in Paul's post-Acts epistles, as compared with the Acts period.

The major differences:
(1) During Acts, everything Paul taught was based on the OT scriptures - Ac 26:22. After Acts, nothing is based on the OT. It was all a secret hid in God since the world began - Eph 3:9.

(2) During Acts, the Church was all Israel, since all saved Gentiles were grafted into Israel.
After-Acts, the church is essentially all Gentiles, along with a few Jews that believe in Christ

(3) During Acts, the Gentiles had very few blessings and Israel had everything - Rom 9-4.
After Acts, the Gentiles have every Spiritual Blessing possible, in Heaven - Eph 1:3

(4) During Acts, the Calling was, at best, the New Jerusalem, the city that comes down out of Heaven and attaches to the New Earth. The New Jerusalem is not Heaven.
After Acts, the Calling is to Heaven, itself, where Christ sits at God's right hand - Compare Eph 1:20 (Christ) with Eph 2:6 (Us)

(5) During Acts, the resurrection hope that is taught is the so-called rapture, at the 2nd Coming (according to scripture!).
After-Acts, it is the Appearing, a term found only after Acts, when pertaining to Christ - Titus 2:13, 2Tim 4:1,8, 1Tim 6:14, Col 3:4

When things are different, they aren't the same! That's why God told us to test the things that are different - Phil 1:10. After determining the differences, we are to divide (separate) those different things that apply directly to Israel, but not to us Gentiles, by correctly cutting His Word of Truth - 2Tim 2:15. Why else would He tell us to cut it and divide it? The only place in the Bible (from Gen 12 on) that can be cut, in order to divide Israel from the Gentiles, is at the very end of Acts.

Those 5 main differences are absolute proof that the dispensation after Acts is not the same as the dispensation during Acts.

Different Hope (resurrection) + different Calling + different people + different blessings + all in OT vs none in OT = DIFFERENT EVERYTHING!, as far as what Gentiles are given (except Christ and salvation).

I challenge you to find anything given to us Gentiles after Acts that is exactly the same as something given to Gentiles during Acts, or before Acts.

Lol, what a mess.

Your supposed basis for your first point being off, the remainder of your supposedly valid points could not but be off as well.

Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

All Paul was asserting there was that because what he was preaching was not in contradiction to what their Prophets had prophesied about what the sufferings of Christ would make possible, they had no business resisting the Spirit on this in their resisting Paul's preaching.

Sorry, Ac, no cigar - Paul.could say that to them because what the finished work of the Cross accomplishes - man's redemption - within both aspects of God's TWO-Fold Purpose: Prophecy and Mystery, is the same.

There are things that differ between the two, and things that do not.

And man's redemption is one of those that is...the same.

You are reading your Acts 28 Position's confused writings about these things, into them.

Rom. 14:5; 5:6-9.
 
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Lol, what a mess.

Your supposed basis for your first point being off, the remainder of your supposedly valid points could not but be off as well.

Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

All Paul was asserting there was that because what he was preaching was not in contradiction to what their Prophets had prophesied about what the sufferings of Christ would make possible, they had no business resisting the Spirit on this in their resisting Paul's preaching.

Sorry, Ac, no cigar - Paul.could say that to them because what the finished work of the Cross accomplishes - man's redemption - within both aspects of God's TWO-Fold Purpose: Prophecy and Mystery, is the same.

There are things that differ between the two, and things that do not.

And man's redemption is one of those that is...the same.

You are reading your Acts 28 Position's confused writings about these things, into them.

Rom. 14:5; 5:6-9.

Why do you waste your time with me and try to get me to waste my time? You know that I will never believe any of your nonsensical arguments, since I know they're all fraudulent and twisted. I am 100% convinced that my arguments are 100% correct. A9D are the JWs of dispensationalism. I'm just here to lay out the truth. Take it or leave it.
 
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Why do you waste your time with me and try to get me to waste my time? You know that I will never believe any of your nonsensical arguments, since I know they're all fraudulent and twisted. I am 100% convinced that my arguments are 100% correct. A9D are the JWs of dispensationalism. I'm just here to lay out the truth. Take it or leave it.

Lol - there you go, reading into a thing again.

So much for my ending my posts with Rom. 14:5.

If I were attempting to do what you are constantly attempting to do to others - convince them that your books based reasoning is sound - I would not have stopped at simply thanking you in my reply to your post to my question on Gal. 3:8.

I found I disagreed with your answer.

Did I attempt to convince you otherwise?

No, nope, and nada, lol.

Same thing with my reply to your later post.

Only that time I voiced why I disagreed with your error, is all.

I find these differences in understanding interesting.

And...amusing.

That's about it.

Rom. 14:5.

Read that passage some time.

Or not, lol.

Rom. 5:6-9.

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Again, thanks for your reply on Gal. 3:8.

I had asked you about your take on it because I reading what the Acts 9 / Acts 28 Hybrid view on it is, over at TOL, was thinking of riding STP about it, just for fun, and thought I should check with a 28er (you) might have to say on that passage, before responding to his 9 / 28 Hybrid take on it with actual, Acts 9's take on it.

Since Hybrids claim they are Acts 9, lol.

Come to think of it, you remind me of them. They too take their views very seriously. Rib them and you find yourself in hot water with them.

Lighten up, Ac - in the end, we'll all find out Acts 9 Dispensationalism was correct, lol

Hey, maybe I'll post your post to me on that passage to them, lol.

Speaking of which, how come you no longer post on TOL?

Again, Ac - lighten up a little - WE'RE COMPLETE in HIM, remember?

Give yourself a smile for me...

Eph. 4:16
 
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More of your projecting, lol

Rom. 5:6-9.
I see you learned a word... Now learn how to use it properly, please!
I am fitting right in with the mental attitude of the direction you two long time feuders have been going at it for years... Its a personal feud.
 
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Ac28, you and I met online, what, about a year and a half ago, or so?

And in that time, we have posted to one another, what, less then a dozen times?

It's time you and I put both put genez on ignore.

Genez is both consistently willfully ignorant of Dispensationalism in general, and just as willfully ignorant of where both of us are coming from, but also, just as dishonest in his dealings with either of us.

I don't know about you, Ac28, but when it comes to such an individual, I'd rather this forum go silent of any participation once more, like it does, at times.

I move we both leave him at the following description of his kind, lol

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Lol, what a character genez is.

Romans 5:6-9.
 
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