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The Death and True Resurrection of Jesus.

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Always keep in mind that the sabbath day is part of the law of God. In (1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts.
There are multiple definitions of sin in the scripture. Anything that is not of faith. The good that you know you should do but don't. There are also many sins and abominations mentioned by the prophets. For example; drunkenness and gluttony.

Sin is transgression of the law, actually means, the entire law.
 
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A count backwards using the Hebrew reckoning for a day (sunset to sunset) will align perfectly with Christ's declaration that His body would be in the tomb for three days and three nights. Simply start with the Sunday He arose. It's that simple.

Now those who want to argue against that prophesy time our Lord Jesus gave, show they have an outside agenda from man, and do not care to listen to our Lord Jesus in His Word.

Matt 12:40
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

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Jesus rose on the third day. If Jesus was in the tomb for a full three days and nights, then logically, Jesus could not have risen on the third day!
 
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It's true, the word Easter is actually not even in The Bible, the KJV translators added it in Acts 12:4 because of tradition. The word there in the Greek manuscripts is actually 'pascha', which means 'passover'.

That Lord Jesus crucified on a Friday is a tradition of man also. He was crucified on Wednesday, and buried just before sundown, which was the exact time required for the Old Testament passover sacrifice. The Hebrew time reckoning is the only calendar to use per Scripture on that event, but just like the word Easter creeping in, so men's traditions of using other calendars figured Friday for His day of crucifixion. To properly figure it, all one need do is count the three days and three nights back from Sunday morning when He arose. Per the Hebrew reckoning, the day is from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.

Also, there were TWO sabbaths that week, for the passover involved a 'high day' or high sabbath. This is shown in John 19:31. Lord Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, and died just before sunset on Wednesday eve. They rushed to bury His body because at sunset began the 'high day', and high sabbath, and no work was to be done. So did a partial burial before sunset. Then Thursday was a high day (2 sabbaths that week because of the passover). And then at sunset the next day began Friday. At Friday sunset to Saturday sunset was the regular weekly sabbath, so they couldn't go and finish the burial. Then at Saturday sunset, which began Sunday, they went back to the tomb to finish the burial with spices, etc., and noticed Lord Jesus' body was gone.
How can there be two Sabbaths in a week?

A Sabbath is a seventh day. You cannot have two seventh days in a week.

Something is deeply wrong in your interpretation.
 
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It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning.

Not exactly.
The empty tomb was discovered on the 3rd day, in the early hours of the morning after the Sabbath.
No one knows exactly when Jesus rose.

As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected.

The day when the empty tomb was discovered and the world could see that he had been raised.

In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself.

Well I haven't looked into it that closely, but we know that he died just before the Sabbath. Which is the 7th day of the week, which was the equivalent of our Saturday, even though it wasn't called that then. And we know that the Sabbath was from 6pm-6a.m - i.e it would have started at 6pm on the equivalent of our Friday - and Jesus was crucified at around 3 in the afternoon.

This lesson will examine the history of Easter a little, and then investigate the Bible concerning the death and resurrection of Jesus.

Easter Created By Man

Before we get into the death and resurrection of Jesus we need to address history of Easter itself. We will also take a look at the symbols of Easter: rabbits and eggs. What does rabbits and eggs have to do with the birth of Jesus?

Nothing - Easter is about the death and resurrection of Jesus, not his birth.
Rabbits and eggs are symbols of new life. Eggs because they may not look like much but can hatch into chicks - i.e they have new life within them. And presumably rabbits because they breed prolifically or may do so in Spring - also a season of new life.

Furthermore, when did rabbits start laying eggs?

When has anyone even hinted that they believe rabbits can lay eggs???

Additionally, we will look at the history of Easter sunrise service, lilies, candles, and hot crossed buns. If you research Easter in most encyclopedias, you will see that Easter has many customs and legends that are pagan in origin and have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.

Maybe. But rabbits, eggs, hot cross buns and candles can all represent the Easter story, or part of it
- new life, the cross on a bun, which is spiced to represent the spices taken to the tomb, Jesus, light of the world, and so on.

Easter was named after Eostre (sometimes spelled Eastre), the great Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, fertility, and new life. Similar Teutonic dawn goddesses of fertility were known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos. Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Thus it is easy to see how "Eastre time" became "Easter time".

Again, maybe.
But Christians do not worship some pagan god but celebrate the Son of God being raised from the dead.

Easter Sunday falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after March 20th,

No, the date of Easter Sunday varies depending on when the Jewish Passover is that year.
This year, it's on April 4th - next year it could be later or even before March 20th.

This is the day (or period of days) in spring when the days and nights are of approximately equal length. This is a time of celebrating new life, the resurrection of nature from the dead, and it has typically featured fertility rites, merrymaking, and usually centers on orgiastic sexual activities. In ancient times there were the sacrificing of virgins, the worship of fertility gods and goddesses.

Jesus celebrated a final Passover meal with his friends, and was crucified on the day the Passover lamb was being killed. So Easter is linked with Passover - not with pagan orgies.

The Easter sunrise service, that is practiced in many Christian churches, can be traced back to the ancient pagan custom of welcoming the sun god at the vernal equinox

It wouldn't matter if it could be - the service is held at SON rise; the Son has risen. It was just before sunrise, i.e while it was still dark, that the women went to the tomb.

It was a time to celebrate the return of life and reproduction to animal and plant life as well. Worship of the sun god at sunrise is the religious ritual condemned by the Lord as recorded in Ezekiel 8:15-18.

Why do you say that Christians would want to celebrate the birth of sun gods, pagan goddesses, indulge in pagan orgies - or even think of doing those things?

Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Ezekiel 8:15-18 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

Again, why are you making a link between Jesus' empty tomb being discovered by women, and then Jesus' disciples, and non believers who choose to worship a sun god, (not that there are any other gods)?
 
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Now there's another Jesus Paul talks about in 2 Corinthians 11: 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

IF someone were to come and preach another Jesus who was different from the one that Paul preached ......
The apostles preached that Jesus of Nazareth, the eternal Word made flesh and Son of God, was the Messiah. Jesus may have been a common name then, but they preached no other Jesus.
 
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The cultural damage done by spreading this fallacious story about the origins of Easter/Pascha is kind of amazing isn't it? People can believe that a uniquely English/Germanic term for the feast is derived from a Babylonian Goddess while not being called that anywhere else in the Christian world for the exact same feast. It took centuries for the term Easter to emerge in association with the feast of the resurrection, yet people unironically believe that's how we can explain Easter.

They then proceed to attach more significance to the secular cultural embellishments than anything represented in the worship of Churches during their Easter Liturgies/services. I would sincerely implore those with an Anti-Easter spirit, actually look into the history of the feast instead of believing this cultural myth.
 
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That Lord Jesus crucified on a Friday is a tradition of man also. He was crucified on Wednesday, and buried just before sundown, which was the exact time required for the Old Testament passover sacrifice. The Hebrew time reckoning is the only calendar to use per Scripture on that event, but just like the word Easter creeping in, so men's traditions of using other calendars figured Friday for His day of crucifixion. To properly figure it, all one need do is count the three days and three nights back from Sunday morning when He arose. Per the Hebrew reckoning, the day is from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.

Also, there were TWO sabbaths that week, for the passover involved a 'high day' or high sabbath. This is shown in John 19:31. Lord Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, and died just before sunset on Wednesday eve. They rushed to bury His body because at sunset began the 'high day', and high sabbath, and no work was to be done. So did a partial burial before sunset. Then Thursday was a high day (2 sabbaths that week because of the passover). And then at sunset the next day began Friday. At Friday sunset to Saturday sunset was the regular weekly sabbath, so they couldn't go and finish the burial. Then at Saturday sunset, which began Sunday, they went back to the tomb to finish the burial with spices, etc., and noticed Lord Jesus' body was gone.

You are wrong. It says for that Sabbath (the weekly Sabbath) was a "high day"...that was the 15th of Nisan. He died on the preparation day...Friday. The eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus prove the timeline.
 
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A count backwards using the Hebrew reckoning for a day (sunset to sunset) will align perfectly with Christ's declaration that His body would be in the tomb for three days and three nights. Simply start with the Sunday He arose. It's that simple.

Now those who want to argue against that prophesy time our Lord Jesus gave, show they have an outside agenda from man, and do not care to listen to our Lord Jesus in His Word.

Matt 12:40
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

KJV

The eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus prove you wrong...it is that simple...
 
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we pretending that Sunday worship and Easter are not combine today.
C'mon Bro, why would some vanquished god from a culture that turned to dust long ago own a word or a day used for worship today? Who thinks of conquered pagan gods on Easter Sunday? No one but you guys trying to give the day back to the pagans. Easter means what people think it means now not then.
 
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Well, if that's what you want to follow, then so be it. But at this point using simple addition math should of help your dissension. If you can get three days and three night starting at Friday, you are indeed special.

Let's reread it again (Matthew 12:38) Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Show me how those Greeks got those three day and three night starting at Friday, my friend

An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign...is that you? He never told them the end game...his Resurrection! The eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus disprove your timeline!
 
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How can there be two Sabbaths in a week?
Because it was a High Sabbath *John 19:31. In this case, the high Sabbath was a regular weekly Sabbath day that coincided with the Passover festival. It was a “double Sabbath” to the weekly Sabbath, which was normally observed, that included the first day of the Passover feast, Nissan 15, which also carried the solemnity of a Sabbath (see Leviticus 23:7–15). So Jesus was crucified on the day before a high Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want Jerusalem desecrated on such a holy day as a high Sabbath, they petitioned the governor that the bodies of Jesus and those crucified with Him be taken down before evening (see Deuteronomy 21:22–23).
 
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Because it was a High Sabbath *John 19:31. In this case, the high Sabbath was a regular weekly Sabbath day that coincided with the Passover festival. It was a “double Sabbath” to the weekly Sabbath, which was normally observed, that included the first day of the Passover feast, Nissan 15, which also carried the solemnity of a Sabbath (see Leviticus 23:7–15). So Jesus was crucified on the day before a high Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want Jerusalem desecrated on such a holy day as a high Sabbath, they petitioned the governor that the bodies of Jesus and those crucified with Him be taken down before evening (see Deuteronomy 21:22–23).
Sabbath is the seventh day.

A high Sabbath is also a seventh day.
 
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Jesus Christ (John 1:1-3, 10-14) is the one who rested on the Sabbath day and commanded that you do the same. If you really understood the scriptures you would realize that He was the one who became known as Jesus who gave you the Ten Commandments. So not only did He command you to cease from your work on that day He also commanded you to. (Lev.23:3) “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, an holy convocation;” He said on the Sabbath day that you should also have an holy convocation, which means holy gathering or simply put, go to church. Let’s take a look and see what Jesus did when he came in the flesh, And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. (Luke 4:14-16)

May not be mandated but it's God dated on which day you should serve him. My point is the sabbath day worship comes from the word of God, the Bible. Sunday worship comes from out of the word of God, the Bible. Which reminds me of what Jesus says in Mark 12: 17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
So this thread has a sabbath agenda? May I suggest it would be better placed in the sabbath forum. Christ rests on the Sabbath through his death, if I want to obtain sabbath rest I'll seek it from the only one who can give it to me. There is no explicit NT verse to observe the letter of the Sabbath law.
 
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German word for resurrection Archives - Truth Snitch

“Because the English Anglo/Saxon language originally derived from the Germanic, there are many similarities between German and English…The English word Easter is of German/Saxon origin and not Babylonian as Alexander Hislop falsely claimed. The German equivalent is Oster. Oster (Ostern being the modern day equivalent) is related to Ost which means the rising of the sun, or simply in English, east. Oster comes from the old Teutonic form of auferstehen / auferstehung, which means resurrection, which in the older Teutonic form comes from two words, Ester meaning first, and stehen meaning to stand. These two words combine to form erstehen which is an old German form of auferstehen, the modern day German word for resurrection.”​
 
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A "High Sabbath" is two Sabbaths (an annual Feast sabbath and the weekly Sabbath of God's 4th commandment).
Yes, but they both fall on the seventh day. Otherwise, they are not Sabbaths. The Sabbath day is the seventh day of the week.

A high Sabbath is on exactly the same day as the Sabbath.
 
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Yes, but they both fall on the seventh day. Otherwise, they are not Sabbaths. The Sabbath day is the seventh day of the week.

A high Sabbath is on exactly the same day as the Sabbath.
It is called a "High Sabbath" David because it does not always fall on the "seventh day" weekly Sabbath of God's 4th commandment. The difference between the ceremonial annual sabbaths in the Feast days and God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments is that the annual sabbaths are linked directly to the annual Feasts and not a particular constant static day. This means that the annual sabbaths can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle. While God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments *Exodus 20:8-11 is only linked directly to the "seventh day" of the week as a memorial of creation pointing back to Genesis 2:1-3. When the annual ceremonial sabbath falls on a "seventh day" weekly Sabbath it is called a "High Sabbath" - John 19:31.
 
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That last part I'm not so sure about, a gospel supposedly discovered it 1886. I always believe that God being almighty and power, that the Bible is all we need for salvation. But I want thank you for some good understanding.

It is not the Bible that gives Eternal Life.

It is The promised Messiah that gives Eternal Life.​

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

I will add, there are many beliefs that are not based in The Bible, that have worked there way into the current visible church and the visible church is mostly man lead. But that can be different for each denomination, one thing is for certain the current visible church is not in unity.
 
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No, it is from sunset to sunset.
Shabbat Shalom

Ok, but it was not from midnight - midnight.
The soldiers broke the legs of the 2 thieves so they would die quicker and the bodies not be left on the cross during the Sabbath. The women were prevented from anointing the body straight away because it was the Sabbath.
The mention of the Sabbath places the crucifixion, as far as I can see, on the equivalent of our Friday.
 
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