The Dawning of Awareness: Trump Polling at 43% and Falling

[Akita Suggagaki]

Why is it set up as a spiral? A brief look at the theory shows it expressible as just linear.

 

[durangodawood]

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Indigenous people must love that, being toward the bottom of the evolutionary ladder.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Spiral Dynamics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Let me just say I was not surprised by this from the opening paragraph

"It lacks mainstream academic validity or support, although it has been applied in management consulting"

It really sounded like management consultant speak.

 

[FireDragon76]

Let me just say I was not surprised by this from the opening paragraph

"It lacks mainstream academic validity or support, although it has been applied in management consulting"

It really sounded like management consultant speak.

Don Beck used it in conflict mediation in South Africa. It's also useful in helping NGO's understand how to communicate with different groups in a society.

The philosopher Ken Wilber has also used it as a model for human potential and spirituality, consequently it has been used in various religious or spiritual communities as a guide for reforming preaching or practices to make them more relevant. Ken Wilber's books have also been read by some politicians and political communicators.

 

[wing2000]

MSN

In my view, 43% is still astonishingly, unbelievably, remarkably high, but with every downward point my faith in my fellow Americans grows a notch.

As of May 1st -- 43.9% (average of polls)

How popular is Donald Trump?

Silver Bulletin approval ratings for President Trump — and all presidents since Truman.

www.natesilver.net

 

[FireDragon76]

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This is Wilber's model, which was shaped heavily by his own experience of Zen Buddhism. Earlier Spiral Dynamics was more generic- Clare Graves actually didn't dwell alot on the exact nature of higher stages, only describing the integral stage as having a re-emergence of spirituality based on mysticism.

Barak Obama was at the Yellow/Turquoise, second-tier stage. Currently, only a small percentage of the US population is at this stage. Pope Francis was also expressing this level, perhaps even manifesting some aspects of Turquoise/Teal.

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's philosophy seems like the best candidate from a Christian POV for embodying Turquoise/Teal values. Richard Rohr might also be said to be inhabiting this stage in a thoroughgoing way.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

MSN

In my view, 43% is still astonishingly, unbelievably, remarkably high, but with every downward point my faith in my fellow Americans grows a notch.

"Faith in my fellow Americans"? I no longer have any. Both Right and Left have their own forms of decadence.

But the tenacity of the faith in one man, his lies and delusions is truly unbelievable.
It is even more disturbing when Christian faith is highjacked the process.

 

[wing2000]

The economy is in a free fall - as a result of the presidents actions.
Business are unable to plan, with multiple companies revising their forcast or even refusing to make any forecast.
The Executive branch has stepped all over Congress with multiple EO's that are clearly illegal (redirecting funds authorized by Congress, destroying entire agencies etc.
...and the Excutive branch is 2+ weeks into disobeying a direct 9-0 ruling from the USSC.

Still, 43.9% approve.

Americans: You fail.

 

[durangodawood]

The economy is in a free fall - as a result of the presidents actions.
Business are unable to plan, with multiple companies revising their forcast or even refusing to make any forecast.
The Executive branch has stepped all over Congress with multiple EO's that are clearly illegal (redirecting funds authorized by Congress, destroying entire agencies etc.
...and the Excutive branch is 2+ weeks into disobeying a direct 9-0 ruling from the USSC.

Still, 43.9% approve.

Americans: You fail.

For a lot of Trump supporters, disapproval of him is like disapproval of self. Its too much to bear.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Don Beck used it in conflict mediation in South Africa. It's also useful in helping NGO's understand how to communicate with different groups in a society.

The philosopher Ken Wilber has also used it as a model for human potential and spirituality, consequently it has been used in various religious or spiritual communities as a guide for reforming preaching or practices to make them more relevant. Ken Wilber's books have also been read by some politicians and political communicators.

Unless you'd like to disclaim the diagram in post #21 as being not related to spiral whats-it, I find it hard to take it seriously.