The case for NOT getting married

[mattyb1982]

ITA, except that he should get this out of his system here and now. I didn't think bashing of an entire gender was allowed on this forum...it shouldn't be...and that's clearly what's happening in this thread.

Thats not whats happening at all, why dont u debate us on our points instead of complaining.

 

[Conservativation]

This is the wall of resistance. This is why half the folks are not spoken to directly in church. Someone raises statistically verifiable unequivocal FACTS....and thats called misogyny. Thats really very very sad, and its a card played one way.
If someone mentioned that X% of pornography is bought or viewed by men...and I dont know the number but its way more men....Id say NOTHING about that being anti-male...why? because its a FACT. Even in legal terms, the defense against libel and slander that is the best is the defense of truth...if the thing is true, its not libel.

Same here, if someone wants to show what he has said that just raw bashing and lacking any facts.....do so. But the facts are exactly what he is stating and how sad is that to be called misogyny.

Its no surprise to see a man objecting because white knight phenom is huge among Christians....more so than non Christians, Christian men are basically to never ever ever offend a woman. Thats why preachers would never give a message that started with "folks I realize this may be hard to believe but women file 2/3 of all divorces, now notice I didn't say women are at fault for 2/3 I said they FILE 2/3, and that is a compelling number which does suggest something, and that something is that men are not overwhelmingly responsible for divorce which is the assumption we have operated under for years even if unspoken, so lets talk today about wives, and marriage, we spend much time telling men how to love wives, so lets go straight at the ladies today and share some hard to hear truths"

You will NEVER hear that direct talk to women....period. One preacher friend told me he didnt do it for the simple reason his wife would object. He also said that his attendance would drop like a rock as women dragged husbands to find a different church and how dare the pastor by a misogynist.

The current imbalance is so settled into conventional wisdom its seen as balance, hence the white knight saying the OP needs balance.

The OP IS BALANCE....and an open mind not fraught with the natural male urge to self efface in an effort top get cyber back pats from women could see it clearly

 

[Conservativation]

Thats not whats happening at all, why dont u debate us on our points instead of complaining.

You cannot get to the points, ever, in these types of threads. You personally will be discredited, called misogynist woman hating, a bitter man who has been hurt by some woman, venting, frustrated, all sorts of things all except addressing the facts. It will not happen, Ive tried for years, never got deeper than the veneer.

Accountability is like polar opposite ends of magnets they keep flipping around the other way

 

[Edial]

Closing this.
Let me see what is what.

In Christ,
Ed

 

[Edial]

There are some flaming generalizations posted here.
New poster might not realize that generalization rules apply to all subforums of the Marrieds.
A mandatory MSC referral is applied.

In Christ,
Ed

 

[Edial]

I've always been a pragmatist, analytical person. I grew up with a single mother, not by her choice, my father passed on when I was young. So I raised by a single mother didn't use her sexuality to jump back on the carousel, parade guys in and out of our home, etc etc or use them for their money. When you have that kind of example, and you see how a LOT of single mothers become single mom's -out of wedlock kids, divorce..etc---you lose a lot of respect for them.

Then as a teenager, at church I saw two Christian girls specifically that kind of dispelled the whole girls are more virtuous than boys tripe we're fed.

1. Pastor's Daughter. On the outside everything looked fine, but she always drove home with the Deacon's son in his camaro. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what was going on there.
2. Another girl at church. She was a troubled girl, messing around with boys, her mom wasnt the best influence nor was her dad, had bad influences as friends. She was into me, set it up mutliple times so I would have a chance at messing with her. I didn't want to dip my pen in that ink bottle for all the tea in thailand.
3. Had a cousin who at 18, got drunk , had sex with a very unattractive obese girl, who he has a child with. That got me thinking, Thank God and my mom for raising me right.

I had some work friends who took me to strip clubs once I was legal. I'll be str8 honest, every guy wants to go to one, but I always feel convicted afterwards, and a gentlemens bar isnt a brothel so depending on ur pov its a lot of wasted money depending on why you go there. I bring this up because we are all told women are basically tricked into dancing. Which I can say is a lie, I'm sure there some that were semi forced into, but def not the majority.

This also opened my eyes to the nature of women, that females can use men for their own ends, and are terrific actors. They can make you feel like they care about you, until your wallet is empty.

Also, a pastor's wife taught me how they are not above denying their christian husbands sex. She had issues with migraines, but she took advantage of it to deny her husband relations.

Studying Biblical and Secular History also has given me great wisdom. Feminism was the fall of Rome, and will be of the USA or the Rapture will come first. If you look at the Bible, it really doesn't have a lot of things positive to say about women. Proverbs 31, it says " Do not spend your strength[a] on women, A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies. ".

Which if you follow to it's logical conclusion may teach that most women aren't worth a nickle.

It seems the Bible teaches that women must be under the authority of a man, at all times (either father or husband), or older women (like widows) who teach them how to be proper wives. As we see in modern and ancient cultures, when women are allowed to run around rampant, unchecked it's to their own downfall and to the destruction of the family unit and society as a whole.

I did meet some female christian missionairies who gave me some hope that there are decent women out there, def diamonds in the rough, and u might have to out game a boyfriend or two to get them .

Then of course, I briefly dated a christian single mom she was very pretty. She had a bit of a promiscuis past, so I tested her , to see if she had changed, no not really, so that ended.

And then I found the "Manosphere" on the internet, blogs and forums that specifically explain how and why attraction works, the current state of marriage 2.0, and the vast paternity fraud that is committed against men.

That has really opened my eyes quite a bit.

This post reflects poster's personal experiences.
Tough post, I realize it, but it is his personal experience.
There would be some adjustments to it once we discuss it with poster.