The call of the watchman

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

Are you even part of the Spirit filled forum community. I hardly see you post in this forum and if you do its only once every blue moon

Do I need an initiation? I'm a Christian, brother. The Lord died for us to receive salvation. Yet you ask if I'm apart of "Spirit filled forums"?

You cannot produce any scripture outside of what Ezekiel himself was called to do, you are looking to belittle your brothers in Christ. Asking if I belong here, basically.

You ignore the scripture that is given to you, the one I posted about Paul and his vision and how he gave it no "importance" among his Christian brothers.
Do you know something about visions Paul did not know?

I do not want to argue with you, I'm asking for you to show us in His Word where it confirms your appointment as a watchman. The entire NT is based on us ALL being watchman.

Please provide His word, so that we may all pray and understand each other.

 

[RandyWindborne]

The reason people get confused about the word is explained by Jesus in John 7:17.

read it study it so it is understood.

Here's one of Jesus' teachings. Read it, study it, so it is understood:

I still have many things to tell you, but you can’t bear them now. However, when the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative but will say only what he hears. He will also announce to you the events of the future.

 

[RandyWindborne]

I do not want to argue with you, I'm asking for you to show us in His Word where it confirms your appointment as a watchman. The entire NT is based on us ALL being watchman.

Please provide His word, so that we may all pray and understand each other.

The Word is a person. If you've missed that, then yes you need an initiation.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

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There were prophets because they did not have the Holy Spirit or the Living Word.

It was God's form of communication at that time.

I will ask you again, brother. Where is your scripture confirming YOUR appointment as a watchman? That you defy the point that the NT is basically calling us ALL as Christians to be a watchman? Where is your special message and where does it say that God will give us messages that are not already in His Word?

I'm asking you to be precise, because I do not think you understand the forces at play here.

they didn't have the Holy Spirit? The scripture state several times that the Spirit of the Lord was Upon Ezekiel and that the Spirit came upon those who prophesied so they did have the Holy Spirit. The Living Word is just the Scriptures they had scriptures in the Old Testament in fact there are several passages in the Old Testament that tell the people to study the scripture so that they could know what God wanted them to do and to be prosperous when they did it so I don't really think you understand what you're saying here

 

[Optimax]

Here's one of Jesus' teachings. Read it, study it, so it is understood:

I still have many things to tell you, but you can’t bear them now. However, when the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative but will say only what he hears. He will also announce to you the events of the future.

Compare that with what John 7:17 says.

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

Here's one of Jesus' teachings. Read it, study it, so it is understood:

I still have many things to tell you, but you can’t bear them now. However, when the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative but will say only what he hears. He will also announce to you the events of the future.

That's what the Holy Spirit does for us ALL.

 

[gideons300]

I think you guys are walking on a slippery slope when proclaiming yourselves "Watchmen".

Understand that you are tasked with speaking God's Word DIRECTLY to the people.
You have visions of upcoming events and warning the people of them and God's power and HIS plan.

Please understand demons work to confuse and we should be very concise on deciphering the meaning. Pray for clarity. Humble yourselves before God. Understand what a Watchman REALLY is.

God has never given me a "title" and I suspect that will continue.Nor do I want one. The truth is, when someone designates themselves as a prophet or apostle, the hairs on the back of my neck stand at attention. When I see a youtube video of Prophet ________, sadly I more often then not see a lot of pride and calling attention to self. But watchmen? I fully believe God calls such and tells them to intercede and warn.

But if you ask me if God has given me a message for the bride, I cannot or ever will deny it as truth. Nor can I or will I ever stop sharing what God has shown me, for it has changed, no.... revolutionized... my walk, and has transformed me from an angry man serving a hard God, with sin wrapped arond my neck to a patient saint who can say yes to what God asks of me every time. Whereas before I would rail back at those who attack me, or who vehemently oppose the truth I share that we can indeed defeat sin in our lives, now I pray for them and keep speaking.

The church did not arrive at this place where we are splintered, divisive, bound still by sins big and small, some secret and some not so. No, God's bride was birthed a beautiful creature, pure and kind, yet totally on fire for God. They loved not the world nor the things in it. They walked as living sacrifices and did it with joy, not a low hung head. They turned the world upside down in one generation, and even men who hated the light exclaimed "Behold how they love one another!" Satan tried desperately to infiltrate the early church with Ananias and Saphira, but failed. Yet Paul told us that he has been shown that after his deathm evil men, wolves in sheeps clothing would infiltrate the pure flock, and Christianity turned from life to religious service(s).

The tares have been intermixed with the wheat for 1900 years now, and the church is but a shadow of what it once was, and what it was called to be, a light to lead men to the truth. But if we, the saints themselves, are still part dark, part light, bad trees trying to bear good fruit,what can we do to change those in the world if we ourselves are not fully 'light in the Lord'. There is no doubt God has worked a work in each of us, and yes we are delivered from the fleshpots of Egypt, but we are not walking in the land of promise..yet. We are healed only slightly as we say 'peace, peace", when inside we have no peace, and yet our understanding of what God has promised us is so limited, so clouded, that we cannot see how far we have fallen. Thus, if any speaks out that there is more, and that we are missing the mark, the immediate response from many true saints is anger. That is how deep our blindness runs.

But in these last days, we find, just as Jesus told us, that the church, both wheat (with the Spirit inside) and the tares, are all asleep. We have accepted as 'normal' a Christianaity that sets few, if any, free indeed according to the definition Jesus himself gave of what that meant.

We do not perceive the multitude of warning signs that are literally staring us in the face. We accept defeat to sin and remain in bondage to our lower nature, even those God has spoken clearly that sin shall not have dominion over us, that we have been not only forgiven but delivered from the POWER of darkness, and that we are NOW light in the Lord. We have accepted going through the motions Christianity that is so unmotivating that our joy level draws few to Christ.

Jesus said that they will know us by the love we have one for another, that the fruits of the Spirit will be so displayed that all in the world who love the light, even those bound by drugs, alcohol, sexual appetites, that they will ALL come the the light we give off, for we ARE light.

Why is that light not shining? Why do we still find ourselves always growing towards freedom, but never walking in it. Why is our Christianity endless laps of 'lesson learning', yet we never take these learned truths and let them lead us out of the wilderness of unbelief into the land of promise(s)?

It is the very same reason that over 600,000 adults that were lead out of bondage in Egypt, but only two of them possesed what they were possessed for. Who were they? The two who refused to limit God, nd who bleived that their God cannot....CANNOT lie.

Guys, His promises to us are clear. You do not need a theological degree to understand them. You simply tale them for what they say, amen? So what are these promises?

You are not in the flesh, but in the Spiritm if so be that the Spirit of God dwells in you.

You will not ever be tempted above your ability to stare it down and say no.

You have been equipped with armor to protect you, a sword to wield, and an amazing shield that will quench ALL the fiery arrows of the enemy.

Sin will NOT have dominion over you.

Now you are light in the Lord.

Peter told us in 2 Peter 1:4 this:

"...wherefor are given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that by these (the promises), you might be partakers of the divine nature.

That mighty shield is faith, faith is a God who will cause us to obey, just as He promised concerning the new covenant in Ezekiel 36.

Praise God, He is restoring our paths to dwell in. He is rescuing us off the highway TO holiness and planting us firmly, even as weak as we are, ON the highway of holiness. Grace will do as it is planned, show us the HOW of a holy wak, how to possess our vessels in sanctification and honor, how it is possible to walk as living sacrifices. God has told us that this is 'our reasonable service', yet our unbelief has turned it into an impossible calling, and we have, like the Israelites, turned away from the Promised land back to live out our Christianity in thw wilderness. Yes, God still provides, but for us to become the bride without spot or wrinkle, we must go in and possess it, believing that every step we take will be OUR possession.

The end of all things we know is in sight. A great shaking is coming, and everything that can be, will be. It will not happen to us, the true wheat, to hurt us but to bless us beyond measure, for the final speration of the wheat and tares will be fulfilled, and once again, the church we be a bride ready to meet her beloved, without spot or wrinkle.

May all who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying to the church.

Blessings,

Gideon

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Well I repeat and then will leave this as is:

I did not seek the title or position. It was bestowed upon me, as I prayed by the Spirit. It has been confirmed now several times, so those who ridicule the calling or those who are called as watchman do so at their own peril.

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

they didn't have the Holy Spirit? The scripture state several times that the Spirit of the Lord was Upon Ezekiel and that the Spirit came upon those who prophesied so they did have the Holy Spirit. The Living Word is just the Scriptures they had scriptures in the Old Testament in fact there are several passages in the Old Testament that tell the people to study the scripture so that they could know what God wanted them to do and to be prosperous when they did it so I don't really think you understand what you're saying here

We receive the Holy Spirit as a gift for simply believing and following Christ. So as Christians, we all have it. Back then God had prophets deliver messages for him. No, bud, they did NOT have the scripture that we have today. They did not have the scripture and the proof that Christ died for our sins. He is the savior of the world, past, present, future.

So God appointed people prophets to deliver his message. Do we not have the completed message? Do you have something else to tell us, that God did not put in the bible?

This type of self righteous behavior is what is wrong with our churches today. You are telling us you have a special message but you cannot back it up with scripture. Does this not sound like the many false prophets we have in the world today?

Stop ignoring me, brother. Where is your scripture to confirm that you have a special message and warning for us. That us as Christians who possess the Holy Spirit cannot obtain ourselves from reading the word?

Should I call you Ezekiel? You quoting it as if God was speaking to you to watch over Israel, really brings me into thinking that you think you are Ezekiel.

If you have a warning for us from God, that you can find no contradictions to and support from His Word. Well then rejoice! Praise God and Bless you for faith!

But if you choose to not give us scripture, ignore what Paul said about visions, and continue to just herald yourself as a prophet/watchman, ignoring the special gift we all received when we came to Him, proclaiming it for yourself, then I have absolutely no more time for his heresy.

 

[Optimax]

When I was "young" in the Lord and wanting so much to be used of God.

A thought came.

A thought than many "young" in the Lord had and will have.

What was the thought?

"You are called to be a watchman".

However to make a long story short.

As I read and studied the word on "a watchman".

There was a huge problem.

Scripture did not validate the call.

After a while I accepted the "call to be a watchman" for what it was.

A deception of the deceiver.

The deceiver being the devil.

Then I was free to learn what God really wanted me to do.

I have noticed over the years that those who think they are watchman.

Always attempt to defend their "calling" by threats and/or name calling to those who do not accept their "high above everybody else calling"

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

Well I repeat and then will leave this as is:

I did not seek the title or position. It was bestowed upon me, as I prayed by the Spirit. It has been confirmed now several times, so those who ridicule the calling or those who are called as watchman do so at their own peril.

At my own peril? Listen to yourself!!!

We are CHRISTIAN BROTHERS!!! We uplift each other and CORRECT each other when concerning God's Word. I'm asking you to give me verses because I want us to study them together and pray!

Yet you victimize yourself and separate yourself from your brothers, telling us that we are ridiculing you! Why do you not want to engage in healthy fellowship??

Instead you call yourself appointed by God to give us his message outside of the bible and ignore all questions of related verses to give it foundation.

This is baffling!!!!!

 

[RandyWindborne]

That's what the Holy Spirit does for us ALL.

Really? Why then do you demand that others provide scripture to validate for you what God's Spirit has (allegedly) assigned them?

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

Really? Why then do you demand that others provide scripture to validate for you what God's Spirit has (allegedly) assigned them?

Because God's Spirit will not contradict itself? If it contradicts the bible and does not fall in line with it, it's not from the Spirit.

GET IT?

 

[RandyWindborne]

At my own peril? Listen to yourself!!!

We are CHRISTIAN BROTHERS!!! We uplift each other and CORRECT each other when concerning God's Word. I'm asking you to give me verses because I want us to study them together and pray!

Yet you victimize yourself and separate yourself from your brothers, telling us that we are ridiculing you! Why do you not want to engage in healthy fellowship??

Instead you call yourself appointed by God to give us his message outside of the bible and ignore all questions of related verses to give it foundation.

This is baffling!!!!!

Hardly baffling. What kind of reaction did you expect demanding scriptural validation of a personal revelation (or at least an alleged revelation) from God's Spirit? This is none of your business.

 

[RandyWindborne]

Because God's Spirit will not contradict itself? If it contradicts the bible and does not fall in line with it, it's not from the Spirit.

GET IT?

You mean your personal, current understanding of scripture, right? Yeah, I GET IT. You think everyone else's personal revelations must conform your understanding of scripture.

Now, who does that sound like?

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

Hardly baffling. What kind of reaction did you expect demanding scriptural validation of a personal revelation (or at least an alleged revelation) from God's Spirit? This is none of your business.

Wow. He called himself a Watchman, on the same playing field as Ezekiel. He would deliver God's word.

We have the Bible, God's Word.

He is essentially saying that he has a message for us or will have a message that is not in the bible.

Do you not see the problem?

 

[RandyWindborne]

But if you choose to not give us scripture, ignore what Paul said about visions, and continue to just herald yourself as a prophet/watchman, ignoring the special gift we all received when we came to Him, proclaiming it for yourself, then I have absolutely no more time for [t]his heresy.

HERESY!! He's a witch! Burn him!

Pathetic.

 

[RandyWindborne]

Wow. He called himself a Watchman, on the same playing field as Ezekiel. He would deliver God's word.

We have the Bible, God's Word.

He is essentially saying that he has a message for us or will have a message that is not in the bible.

Do you not see the problem?

Yeah, I see the problem. You have a bible and you hold others accountable for your personal understanding of it.

Notwithstanding you clearly have no clue as to what it means, what Jesus taught, or what the Holy Spirit may or may not reveal to others.

Oh yeah, that's definitely a problem.

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

You mean your personal, current understanding of scripture, right? Yeah, I GET IT. You think everyone else's personal revelations must conform your understanding of scripture.

Now, who does that sound like?

That's why I asked him to produce the scripture! He is telling us that he is being called to tell us something from God that we do not know from the gospel.

I think I will remove myself from this conversation, as it is hurting my heart to see this sort of behavior from Christians.

This is not understanding God's Word. This is self proclamation without any scriptural evidence.

 

[ChristCameBackFromTheDead]

Romans 16: 17-18

"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive."

To the OP.

I love you, brother. I am not trying to make it seem as you are not called to do something special. God loves you and you are created in HIS image! Of COURSE you are being called to do something special. Something GREAT. I hope some day you and I will praise the Lord together in his Heavenly Kingdom.

God Bless you all, let us all pray to understand what God's will is.