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The Book of Esther

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The Book of Esther
A brief cartoon on Esther:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOPgxCeg0ow





Esther 1

Esther 2

Esther 3

Esther 4

Esther 5

Esther 6

Esther 7

Esther 8

Esther 9
Purim Established

20 Mordecai recorded these events, and he sent letters to all the Jews throughout the provinces of King Xerxes, near and far, 21 to have them celebrate annually the fourteenth and fifteenth days of the month of Adar 22 as the time when the Jews got relief from their enemies, and as the month when their sorrow was turned into joy and their mourning into a day of celebration. He wrote them to observe the days as days of feasting and joy and giving presents of food to one another and gifts to the poor.
23 So the Jews agreed to continue the celebration they had begun, doing what Mordecai had written to them. 24 For Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had plotted against the Jews to destroy them and had cast the pur (that is, the lot for their ruin and destruction. 25 But when the plot came to the king’s attention, he issued written orders that the evil scheme Haman had devised against the Jews should come back onto his own head, and that he and his sons should be impaled on poles. 26 (Therefore these days were called Purim, from the word pur.) Because of everything written in this letter and because of what they had seen and what had happened to them, 27 the Jews took it on themselves to establish the custom that they and their descendants and all who join them should without fail observe these two days every year, in the way prescribed and at the time appointed. 28 These days should be remembered and observed in every generation by every family, and in every province and in every city. And these days of Purim should never fail to be celebrated by the Jews—nor should the memory of these days die out among their descendants.
29 So Queen Esther, daughter of Abihail, along with Mordecai the Jew, wrote with full authority to confirm this second letter concerning Purim. 30 And Mordecai sent letters to all the Jews in the 127 provinces of Xerxes’ kingdom—words of goodwill and assurance— 31 to establish these days of Purim at their designated times, as Mordecai the Jew and Queen Esther had decreed for them, and as they had established for themselves and their descendants in regard to their times of fasting and lamentation. 32 Esther’s decree confirmed these regulations about Purim, and it was written down in the records.


Purim is on the Jewish date Adar 14 which begins at sundown March 5. On the Jewish calendar it shows the Eve of Purim at sundown March 4 with Purim ending at sundown March 7.



Feel free to share any thoughts on the Book of Esther. Regarding the part where Vashti is called for I grew up thinking that the king just asked her to come out and show off, which he did. However, I have since learned that what he was really asking was that she present herself wearing ONLY her crown. I can totally understand why she refused. :blush:


The midrash tells us that Ahasuerus acted improperly when he tried to force Vashti to obey him and when he issued the decree “that every man should be lord in his own home” (Est. 1:22). A woman acts as she wishes; her husband cannot force his will upon her (Est. Rabbah 4:12). When Ahasuerus became sober, he regretted what he had done (Est. Rabbah 5:2).
 
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This hamentashen recipe using cream cheese is really tasty. I personally do not care for the dryness of the ones without the cream cheese.

The pastries are supposed to symbolize the defeated enemy of the Jewish people, and thus resemble the three-cornered hat of Haman".[2] The word tasch means "pouch" or "pocket" in Germanic languages, and thus the reference may instead be to "Haman's pockets", symbolizing the money which Haman offered to Ahasuerus in exchange for permission to destroy the Jews. ~Wikipedia~
 
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I thought this rather interesting. The first letter of the one sentence are the letters that spell out YHWH for Yaweh.

וַתֹּאמֶר אֶסְתֵּר, אִם-עַל-הַמֶּלֶךְ טוֹב--יָבוֹא הַמֶּלֶךְ וְהָמָן הַיּוֹם, אֶל-הַמִּשְׁתֶּה אֲשֶׁר-עָשִׂיתִי לוֹ.
Esther 5:4 And Esther said: 'If it seem good unto the king, let the king and Haman come this day unto the banquet that I have prepared for him.'


Here's the video so you can hear the full thought. It's short. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQPZsiAq1lU

What are your thoughts on this?
 
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PS The reason I put this in fellowship is because I don't want a bunch of fighting. I'm asking for others thoughts and insights on the Book of Esther. Surely we can discuss without fighting.
 
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Since he refers to Esther and since it is the eve of Purim now, I am adding Benjamin Netanyahus speech from a couple of days ago so that any who want to may hear what he said :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lELXynhbS84
 
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whoa slow down lol too much to watch haha don't have time ...is it that time of year again ?..a joyful remembrance of Gods hand and sovereignty at work .. a great encouragement with many lessons for us all :) :)
:clap: Finely, somebody is joining in. I'm not going too fast, I started this 6 days ago. Only Bibi's speech is long, the others things are fairly short. You can catch up. :p Yes, God is faithful!
 
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The Book of Esther
A brief cartoon on Esther:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOPgxCeg0ow





Esther 1

Esther 2

Esther 3

Esther 4

Esther 5

Esther 6

Esther 7

Esther 8

Esther 9
Purim Established

20 Mordecai recorded these events, and he sent letters to all the Jews throughout the provinces of King Xerxes, near and far, 21 to have them celebrate annually the fourteenth and fifteenth days of the month of Adar 22 as the time when the Jews got relief from their enemies, and as the month when their sorrow was turned into joy and their mourning into a day of celebration. He wrote them to observe the days as days of feasting and joy and giving presents of food to one another and gifts to the poor.
23 So the Jews agreed to continue the celebration they had begun, doing what Mordecai had written to them. 24 For Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had plotted against the Jews to destroy them and had cast the pur (that is, the lot for their ruin and destruction. 25 But when the plot came to the king’s attention, he issued written orders that the evil scheme Haman had devised against the Jews should come back onto his own head, and that he and his sons should be impaled on poles. 26 (Therefore these days were called Purim, from the word pur.) Because of everything written in this letter and because of what they had seen and what had happened to them, 27 the Jews took it on themselves to establish the custom that they and their descendants and all who join them should without fail observe these two days every year, in the way prescribed and at the time appointed. 28 These days should be remembered and observed in every generation by every family, and in every province and in every city. And these days of Purim should never fail to be celebrated by the Jews—nor should the memory of these days die out among their descendants.
29 So Queen Esther, daughter of Abihail, along with Mordecai the Jew, wrote with full authority to confirm this second letter concerning Purim. 30 And Mordecai sent letters to all the Jews in the 127 provinces of Xerxes’ kingdom—words of goodwill and assurance— 31 to establish these days of Purim at their designated times, as Mordecai the Jew and Queen Esther had decreed for them, and as they had established for themselves and their descendants in regard to their times of fasting and lamentation. 32 Esther’s decree confirmed these regulations about Purim, and it was written down in the records.


Purim is on the Jewish date Adar 14 which begins at sundown March 5. On the Jewish calendar it shows the Eve of Purim at sundown March 4 with Purim ending at sundown March 7.



Feel free to share any thoughts on the Book of Esther. Regarding the part where Vashti is called for I grew up thinking that the king just asked her to come out and show off, which he did. However, I have since learned that what he was really asking was that she present herself wearing ONLY her crown. I can totally understand why she refused. :blush:


The midrash tells us that Ahasuerus acted improperly when he tried to force Vashti to obey him and when he issued the decree “that every man should be lord in his own home” (Est. 1:22). A woman acts as she wishes; her husband cannot force his will upon her (Est. Rabbah 4:12). When Ahasuerus became sober, he regretted what he had done (Est. Rabbah 5:2).
cute summary :)
 
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LOL A parody from Vashti's point of view:


haha ..fat lot of good that attitude got her .. ^_^

mind you the incident and resulting decisions showed that in those days "royalty " was really recognized for its "role model " power ...

they said . if she does that and you let her .. then all the woman will do that .. they understood how the behavior of One in high standing ,was never a matter of "me only" but had the power to effect all society .. and the responded from that mind set .

these days its all about me me ME ..as though what "I" Do will have no effect on any one else .. and its a great error to think that way .. as the leaders of the nation influence the nations behavior ..so the behavior of the boss effects his employees ,so the behavior of the father effects his family , so the behavior of one effect his/her peers .... we are never an island .
 
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LOL A parody from Vashti's point of view:

.haha ..fat lot of good that attitude got her .. ^_^

mind you the incident and resulting decisions showed that in those days "royalty " was really recognized for its "role model " power ...

they said . if she does that and you let her .. then all the woman will do that .. they understood how the behavior of One in high standing ,was never a matter of "me only" but had the power to effect all society .. and the responded from that mind set .

these days its all about me me ME ..as though what "I" Do will have no effect on any one else .. and its a great error to think that way .. as the leaders of the nation influence the nations behavior ..so the behavior of the boss effects his employees ,so the behavior of the father effects his family , so the behavior of one effect his/her peers .... we are never an island .
 
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I thought this rather interesting. The first letter of the one sentence are the letters that spell out YHWH for Yaweh.

וַתֹּאמֶר אֶסְתֵּר, אִם-עַל-הַמֶּלֶךְ טוֹב--יָבוֹא הַמֶּלֶךְ וְהָמָן הַיּוֹם, אֶל-הַמִּשְׁתֶּה אֲשֶׁר-עָשִׂיתִי לוֹ.
Esther 5:4 And Esther said: 'If it seem good unto the king, let the king and Haman come this day unto the banquet that I have prepared for him.'


Here's the video so you can hear the full thought. It's short. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQPZsiAq1lU

What are your thoughts on this?
.its a little random .. but still , nice point made from it :)
 
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.its a little random .. but still , nice point made from it :)

Agreed. I have nothing against random. It's pretty cool seeing that God's name (YHWH) is written there :)
 
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.haha ..fat lot of good that attitude got her .. ^_^

mind you the incident and resulting decisions showed that in those days "royalty " was really recognized for its "role model " power ...

they said . if she does that and you let her .. then all the woman will do that .. they understood how the behavior of One in high standing ,was never a matter of "me only" but had the power to effect all society .. and the responded from that mind set .

these days its all about me me ME ..as though what "I" Do will have no effect on any one else .. and its a great error to think that way .. as the leaders of the nation influence the nations behavior ..so the behavior of the boss effects his employees ,so the behavior of the father effects his family , so the behavior of one effect his/her peers .... we are never an island .


True. Or, the men who counciled the king did not like the idea that the women stand up for themselves. The King was drunk and there is the hint that what the king had requested was that Vashti make a show of herself in ONLY her crown. There was more than likely a lot of immorality going on at the party, but Vashti appairently drew a line when it came to making an appearance wearing nothing but her crown.
 
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True. Or, the men who counciled the king did not like the idea that the women stand up for themselves. The King was drunk and there is the hint that what the king had requested was that Vashti make a show of herself in ONLY her crown. There was more than likely a lot of immorality going on at the party, but Vashti appairently drew a line when it came to making an appearance wearing nothing but her crown.

umm lol without some reference that's reading a little to much between the lnes
 
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.haha ..fat lot of good that attitude got her .. ^_^

mind you the incident and resulting decisions showed that in those days "royalty " was really recognized for its "role model " power ...

they said . if she does that and you let her .. then all the woman will do that .. they understood how the behavior of One in high standing ,was never a matter of "me only" but had the power to effect all society .. and the responded from that mind set .

these days its all about me me ME ..as though what "I" Do will have no effect on any one else .. and its a great error to think that way .. as the leaders of the nation influence the nations behavior ..so the behavior of the boss effects his employees ,so the behavior of the father effects his family , so the behavior of one effect his/her peers .... we are never an island .
Likewise it may also be the bases of the `law`that Paul speaks of in 1 Cor 14:34 where no corresponding law in the old testament is found.
 
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Likewise it may also be the bases of the `law`that Paul speaks of in 1 Cor 14:34 where no corresponding law in the old testament is found.

perhaps :) if your refering to, the law of conscience..? but shh we cant go into that here its a fellowship thread about the book of Esther :)
 
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umm lol without some reference that's reading a little to much between the lnes

add - mind you ,your right ..this does paint a rather a picture of debauchery .

-There were couches of gold and silver on a mosaic pavement of porphyry, marble, mother-of-pearl and other costly stones. 7 Wine was served in goblets of gold, each one different from the other, and the royal wine was abundant, in keeping with the king’s liberality. 8 By the king’s command each guest was allowed to drink with no restrictions, for the king instructed all the wine stewards to serve each man what he wished.-

however i remain skeptical that any culture would parade its queen wearing nothing but a crown
 
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umm lol without some reference that's reading a little to much between the lnes
Why certainly :D

Megillas Esther

Also see portion quoted below from BibleHub
B. Queen Vashti is deposed.

1. (10-11) King Ahasuerus demands that Vashti display her beauty before the guests at the feast.

On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, seven eunuchs who served in the presence of King Ahasuerus, to bring Queen Vashti before the king, wearing her royal crown, in order to show her beauty to the people and the officials, for she was beautiful to behold.

a. When the heart of the king was merry with wine: The clear implication is that Ahasuerus was drunk.

b. To bring Queen Vashti before the king, wearing her royal crown: According to Jewish tradition, this request came from an argument among the men at the feast as to which country had the most beautiful women. Ahasuerus decided to settle the issue by putting his wife the queen on public display.

c. For she was beautiful to behold: It is not specifically said, but the implication is that Vashti was expected to display herself in an immodest way.
 
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Alithis said:
however i remain skeptical that any culture would parade its queen wearing nothing but a crown

According to the link I posted here is what it says regarding that particular thought:
"Vashti was not one known for her high moral standards. Under normal circumstances, she would have honored this request. However, now that she was set on putting Achashverosh in his place, she refused. She sent a message back to Achashverosh that not only would she not come, but she reminded him that he was a mere stable keeper, and that if he was truly of royal blood, he would have been able to "hold his liquor" and he would not have gotten drunk so quickly and made such a stupid request."

 
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