The Blood and Fire Drop-In

[Warren Peace]

Do you know what happened to the Toronto CFOT builidings? Are they used for something else? What about the Heritage Centre? Nice little S.A. museum that was with very interesting items. You know, I really love those old uniforms, the ones from the Victorian and Edwardian eras. Also the later ones with the high collars. And I love those bonnets that the 'lassies' used to wear.

You're going to International CFOT? I think that's a good idea!

I live in the Province of Québec.

I am originally from La Belle Province also... Dollard des Ormeaux (west end of Montreal). Lived there 25 years years, 3 years in Toronto and now 5 years in Ajax, a nice community about 40 kms east of Toronto.

The Toronto CFOT may become part of the hospital that is across the street (Sunnybrook)... the deal hasn't been confirmed yet.

Blessings...

 

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

A friend of mine just came back from being at the War College for a year - she had a FANTASTIC time interacting with those in the slums and became VERY strong in her faith (not that she wasn't all ready, but it was being used in ways she'd never had an opportunity to before). She now works at Youth Outreach Services (YOS) in the city - a ministry run by the salvos for homeless youth, with a school, trade skills, food, etc...

I'm still undecided about being a Soldier - I guess it comes down to what God says to me. Right now, I feel that apart from alcohol drinking (like once every 6 months), all those Articles of War are what I do as a committed Christian anyway, so I'm still wondering if it is right for me or not...

Sasch

 

[Abiel]

A friend of mine just came back from being at the War College for a year - she had a FANTASTIC time interacting with those in the slums and became VERY strong in her faith (not that she wasn't all ready, but it was being used in ways she'd never had an opportunity to before). She now works at Youth Outreach Services (YOS) in the city - a ministry run by the salvos for homeless youth, with a school, trade skills, food, etc...

I'm still undecided about being a Soldier - I guess it comes down to what God says to me. Right now, I feel that apart from alcohol drinking (like once every 6 months), all those Articles of War are what I do as a committed Christian anyway, so I'm still wondering if it is right for me or not...

Sasch

We've had this same discussion at my place. Apart from the alcohol one, there is nothing that is different in the articles of war to the bible. I guess the big difference is the public nature of the commitment, and the fact that you can be suspended publicly if caught in failure. It depends on the culture of the Corps/officer/territory whether this is 'one strike and you are out' or whether compassion leads to a more prolonged pastoral process.
As for alcohol, go be made a soldier in Italy or (i think) France. They dont sign up to the alcohol clause.


In my experience, people know when God is calling them to soldiership. It means you are being called to war- active, public war, and a huge level of commitment in terms of time and emotional energy...though not all soldiers feel the need to carry through on that.

 

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

I always wondered that - what with the culture of wine with every meal and all that!

I love being a Salvo!

 

[Abiel]

You will know if/when God calls you.

 

[Abiel]

I see things got nasty in the can women be pastors thread overnight. I'm sorry that my posting of General Booth's picture started it all- that wasn't my intention. Anyway, I have reported the hitler/booth analogy. Interesting though, this is the first time I have come across that level of hatred for the Army. The worst I have been accused of is personally going to hell for not being properly baptised, but the Army? That's great as long as it is a charity.
The more people realise we are a church, the more cranks will reject us. But those we serve will continue to love us.

 

[Warren Peace]

I never drank all that much anyway, can't stand the stuff, so signing the Articles of War was a piece of cake... oh and it was also necessary for me to sign in order become a candidate for Officership, but that's beside the point

Blessings...

 

[Abiel]

I never drank all that much anyway, can't stand the stuff, so signing the Articles of War was a piece of cake... oh and it was also necessary for me to sign in order become a candidate for Officership, but that's beside the point

Blessings...

Hey! I did it that way too!

 

[Victrixa]

The Toronto CFOT may become part of the hospital that is across the street (Sunnybrook)... the deal hasn't been confirmed yet.

Well, that is kind of sad, isn't it?

 

[Victrixa]

I see things got nasty in the can women be pastors thread overnight. I'm sorry that my posting of General Booth's picture started it all- that wasn't my intention. Anyway, I have reported the hitler/booth analogy. Interesting though, this is the first time I have come across that level of hatred for the Army. The worst I have been accused of is personally going to hell for not being properly baptised, but the Army? That's great as long as it is a charity.
The more people realise we are a church, the more cranks will reject us. But those we serve will continue to love us.

I haven't read that thread, but to compare William Booth to Hitler? Wow, that is bad! I do hold William Booth as a model to follow in the Christian faith. He was a very holy man.

I remember, as a Salvationist, how many people here thought that was weird! Hehe! The Salvation Army is very original, I mean, like in originality. I guess I was attracted to it in part for that reason. But I was really called to the Sally Ann at the time. Strongly so.

I've evangelized through Youth Service Corps, Vacation Bible Schools (VBS) - hehe, I would even dress as a clown in S.A. colours and jump around with my tambourine on the main street - imagine that in your minds! - subway (metro) ministry. There was this ministry called the TGIF (Thank God it's Friday) ministry on... Friday nights! That one was linked to the Montreal Citadel Corps. Plus I preached as a soldier and an officer, I don't know how many times! I would replace corps officers during their vacations (on Sundays only). I even did door to door (hehe like the JWs!). I don't know how many times a door was slammed in my face, lol! Plus insults during my many evangelism efforts.

I got insulted once in a restaurant by a homeless person who was really really angry with the Salvation Army! He threw my lunch on the floor and was swearing at me like crazy. One of the servers called the restaurant manager and he sent the angry man away! Thank God my lunch was almost all eaten!

I have worked at Salvation Army kettles many times. Outside in the cold! Brrrrr. Whatever. It made me happy to help the poor!

 

[Victrixa]

I never drank all that much anyway, can't stand the stuff, so signing the Articles of War was a piece of cake... oh and it was also necessary for me to sign in order become a candidate for Officership, but that's beside the point

Yeah, giving up on alcohol, especially in a French-Canadian family! I didn't really care but my family wondered what was up with me, lol! They thought I was crazy!

But now I drink it again (so rarely). And I believe in the Real Presence, sooo....

But the reason for the Salvation Army alcohol clause is a very noble one. This is an organisation which helps many people with alcohol and drug problems. Out of love for our brother or sister, it's better to give it up, especially when you are in their presence as often as Salvationists can be.

 

[Abiel]

I had such a bad night's sleep. I woke up at 1am, and hubby wasn't back yet. (He works with The Air Cadets, a youth organisation, and it was their Christmas party). And in my dopeyness, my imagination began to work over time. He was in by 1.25 safe and sound, but it was a terrible 25 minutes. Now I feel as though I haven't been to bed! I should have got up and come to CF! Last jumble sale of 2004 this morning at the Army. One price- 3 for £1. Bargains for all. You are welcome to come along and have a nice cup of Mary's tea!

 

[Victrixa]

Merry Christmas to my Salvationist friends!!!

 

[Abiel]

MAy many blessings be yours this Christmas Salvos everywhere!

 

[Abiel]

A Happy New Year to you all. And Many thanks to all my War Cry customers of 2004, and my prayers for them in 2005, that the word of God would make a reall impact in all your lives.

 

[mannysee]

sometimes i go into town and see an old Salvation Army guy sitting down there beside his carry around music box (he plays old hymns on it). I think it's kinda cool. Although i expect him to begin preaching any moment. Like they say, God bless the Salvo's. Happy new year to all.

 

[Abiel]

Dear all,
We have our shield now under 'shields' in equipment!!!! And it's free to whomsoever! How cool is that!

 

[mentalmenteinstabile]

God bless you!

In Christ,

 

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

Oooo - guess what's on my armour request now!

God bless all of you in the coming year - and thank you Abiel for setting this thread up!

Love Sasch

 

[Andy Broadley]

Hey guys - just got a link to this from Abiel


Great for us to have our own thread to chill on. I'm C of E now but spent all my childhood and a good few adult years in the Army, starting with the primary Sunday School, Junior Soldier (and yes, I can still remember most of my promises), singing company, Corps Cadet (got my gold!), Senior Soldier, Band, Songsters, Heralding, many cold SD's and caroling etc etc etc....you get the picture.

If we are going to be a cyber corps, we need a band. I can volunteer for the drum and E flat bass, and Euphonium if pushed. Any others?